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Heroin compared to Oxy

I'm scared to do H. Everyone I know that goes that way doesn't end, up good if even alive. Ya oxy is expensive but in a way it seems to kind of control itself because of that. The pricing on H is almost set up for a crash and burn as far as tolerance.

Just a heads up, there's no pricing allowed except in the price thread.

well put, i feel the same way about H and the needle, cuz i know if i try either one of those i will most likely end up a sterotypical junkie, i have an addictive personality i think but then again opiates tend to do that
 
well put, i feel the same way about H and the needle, cuz i know if i try either one of those i will most likely end up a sterotypical junkie, i have an addictive personality i think but then again opiates tend to do that

You will become a junkie if you try it, don't ruin your life.
 
i dont think evrey junkie moves on to the needle im 24 now i strated doin dope when i was 18 i was up to doin 2 buns a days up till 4 weeks ago : ) in those 5 or 6 years i only shot one time i liked it so much that i swore id never do it again and i never did
 


Exactly. I sometimes wonder about the sheer magnitude of people who share the exact same story... I know I do. Millions upon millions of people. Once you shoot heroin, there is not much of a point going back to oxy unless you are rich.

On the bright side, I like to see my 'experimentation' with H as just fast-forwarding the inevitable. I now know I was going to run myself into the ground until I had no choice but to put the brakes on and start taking control of my life (with the help of suboxone :)) Doing H prevented another couple years of dragging the process out and having the wrong attitude by just blowing up my tolerance to a point where I finally realized what I had done.

It was fun but once I couldn't get high off oxy I knew I couldn't let myself be a daily shooter for life. Everyone who is a hardened multi-bag-a-day shooter is as miserable as can be. You got to choose life!!! Even if it took choosing heroin first to come to that conclusion finally!!
 
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...one use(smoking) is probably fine, but extending use through smoking/IV/and to a lesser extent, snorting may lead to tiny particles from the pills binders getting stuck in your lungs. Of course this leads to all sorts of nasty...

People say swallowing OC works, but I've always been able to get MUCH higher through snorting.

Comparing oxy and heroin? Since I don't IV, I can't give you a comparison from that perspective, snorted, however...

Oxy is more of rush, one's being is filled with energy and social thoughts. Slight euphoria, I don't nod unless I take 100mg or more.

H is kind of an "ahhhhhh" close your eyes and count to 1,000 type of high(snorted). Weak, but noticeable rush...very sedating, not as much euphoria, imo...if you like the nod...choose H.
 
lol yeah i always got higher snorting oxy too. i don't understand swallowing oxy. maybe i'm on the low end of oral bioavailability. and maybe the tissue burned away in my nose allows more to get absorbed.
 
I switched from pharmaceutical opioids to H currently again but this time is the longest I've been using H since in the past it would only take a week or two untill the pharms would come again, but now they're hard to find so I've stayed with H once again.

With H I've never injected, only snorted and smoked.....usually smoked.

H is about 2-3x stronger mg/mg than oxycodone, as well it's much more stimulating then oxy (at least for me). Not VERY different, just more euphoric I'd say, longer lasting (even when smoking) if you are snorting it.

Thing is when you want to go to oxys after H, you will see that you tolerence is much higher even if you stick to snorting.
 
i dont think evrey junkie moves on to the needle im 24 now i strated doin dope when i was 18 i was up to doin 2 buns a days up till 4 weeks ago : ) in those 5 or 6 years i only shot one time i liked it so much that i swore id never do it again and i never did

Definitely not every junkie moves onto the needle, just a very very high percentage do. Hopefully, I don't go down that path. Opiates (started with hydro, do mostly OC/Fentanyl now, done dope about 8 times, snorting only) are my DOC, I've never IV'd (myself, i'm not including hospital morphine etc) and I hope to not get into it.

But props to you man, glad you didn't go down the slippery slope of IV addiction.
 
I would choose Heroin before Oxycodone everyday!
Oxycodone has a speedy high, quite nice rush when IVed but Heroin is so much better on all those planes.. i can cook, clean etc when high on heroin
and the rush is AMAZING!

So in my book heroin is #1,,, some people say oxy and heroin are quite alike i say BS.
 
i have never done heroin first off

but from all the people i have talked to IRL

the overwhelming consensus when i asked them to compare the highs, price doesnt matter so bang for your buck isnt an issue, and when asked to compare only the highs i have asked like about a dozen ppl i know who have done both and only one person said H, everyone else said price aside Oxy is way more euphoric and in thier opinion overall more enjoyable

just thought id add that
 
Comparing dope to oxy's, you should take into factor that oxy's are thebaine based, where as dope is Morphine based,

Thebaine has more stimulatory effects, where as morphine has much more sedating effects.

(I have'nt tried morphine alone, but am experienced with H and oxy's)

I prefer heroin.
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*It all depends how good the H you get is...I seem to find that snorting an oxy 80 is much stronger then 1 bag of dope...*

Comparing in price (without stating any), 1 OC80 should be compared to 3-5 stamps.
Not 1.
 
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I also find that Oxy's are more sociable, usually resulting too much talking and being energetic.

-Another reason why i prefer Heroin.
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I've never IVed Oxy's, I hear they're very speedy compared to H, can anyone confirm this?
 
IV user. I definitely prefer heroin, but powder heroin. Black tar is a dirty high, sometimes I even have mild hallucinations when I use it. I find that Oxys are more similar to powder H then tar is to powder H, except the high is shorter with Oxys. If I have to choose between tar and oxys I usually shoot oxys. but east coast powder is king, far better than either of the two. anyone feel the same way about preferring oxys over tar?
 
Jsan-A4, having taken into consideration what you said I still had days/nights when it was impossible to go to sleep (full blown insomnia) because of smoking excessive amounts of H. I find that if you do H everyday, around the 3rd-4th day (when it accumulated in your body) the insomnia problem is completley gone.....however, between H and oxy, I find that H is only a bit more sedating.
 
It all depends how good the H you get is...I seem to find that snorting an oxy 80 is much stronger then 1 bag of dope...

80 oxy pill is also a lot more expensive though.. You have to take into consideration dosage along with price per "dose".
 
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