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Not judging but....

I believe I went into it with the invincibility complex; I simply felt that, based on my prior drug use, that addiction occurred in individuals with weak will-power. Furthermore, I was in a bit of denial that physical addiction actually existed. In retrospect, this was complete ignorance and I would recommend STRONGLY that no one (in the U.S.) dabble with heroin in this anti-drug prohibitionist society. You're only setting yourself up for failure. There are some countries that have been a bit more progressive with allowing alternative modes of opioid maintenance (read: heroin clinics), but these countries are few and far between, and even if you reside in one of these countries, it's probably not too easy to get inducted into one of these programs without an extensive history of relapse/treatment/relapse in addition to exhausting all other (methadone/buprenorphine) therapies.

Also, it is not VERY likely that you will be in the small-ish percentage who is able to restrict their use on weekends.

I've been at this for 8 years and counting... wish I had the foresight to not get myself into this; but, such is life...
 
pallidamors said:
I was pretty addicted, probably doing 1/2 a gram to a gram a day IV when I could afford it. I've only been off the stuff for a couple months, and while I don't regret my time doing it, I'm glad to be done with it.
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That's the way I am with it - I have been off of it for over 13 months now.

Good to hear you're clean man - lots of BLers have gotten off dope recently.
 
pallidamors said:
which is just fine by me. we're alot more fun when we stick to stuff that doesnt make us nod out on the keyboard while trying to post.
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Thasffffffffff.f.........,,,,,,,:|

*drools on keyboard*

All jokes aside, I mainly used H nasally so I could get a lot of stuff done/be very productive. I didn't like nodding out hardcore like a couch potato like I saw some people. I only used a "minimal amount" of H nasally to get a 8 hour high going.

I only IV'd heroin a dozen or two times max.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Thasffffffffff.f.........,,,,,,,:|

*drools on keyboard*

All jokes aside, I mainly used H nasally so I could get a lot of stuff done/be very productive. I didn't like nodding out hardcore like a couch potato like I saw some people. I only used a "minimal amount" of H nasally to get a 8 hour high going.

I only IV'd heroin a dozen or two times max.
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see, i was kinda the opposite. i get extremely productive on most opiates, but when i started IVing, that was all that mattered. working full time and spending another 20-40 hours a week scoring was like 2 full time jobs, i was too burned out to do anything BUT nod.

but when i stuck to roxys, hydros, dilaudid, etc., i had no problem getting energy for daily activities. its something about the IV use that almost turned opiates into a different, lethargic drug for me that made me a lame nodder who would take hours to complete a single post in BL, let alone a text message.
 
pallidamors said:
see, i was kinda the opposite. i get extremely productive on most opiates, but when i started IVing, that was all that mattered. working full time and spending another 20-40 hours a week scoring was like 2 full time jobs, i was too burned out to do anything BUT nod.

but when i stuck to roxys, hydros, dilaudid, etc., i had no problem getting energy for daily activities. its something about the IV use that almost turned opiates into a different, lethargic drug for me that made me a lame nodder who would take hours to complete a single post in BL, let alone a text message.
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I see. I guess I am glad I never got to "that point" which typically is the hallmark signs of a IV heroin user. However it's not necessarily just the IV users either. I have seen people blow H like they were trying to shoot it (I saw someone snort a gram of H in one line...I probably would have OD'd with such an amount).

I really did like the rush IV H had, but there was just no duration to it. It died down quickly like smoking it...and I was unsatisfied with that. I would have gone through more dope shooting than I was snorting. Even at 50% BA, snorting made me conserve my dope. I was more concerned with getting every drop of motivation out of my H.

...so that's why I'm a lot happier off without it.
 
you have 8 posts.

Let me say this.

The answer to your question would require 300 pages worth of information.

Its such a complex question with an equally complex answer
 
iv smoked crack a few times and its no biggie havent used in like 7-8 months shit i havent even thought about it till this thread

bro not everyone who tries it gets hooked there are many differant reasons someone tries "dope" to escape to feel good to fit in to stand out to piss someone off shit the reasons go its like asking why do we eat beef knowing the hormones they feed em is bad for us if you are really addicted bad you can evan tamper off and get barly any withdraws
 
I started buying oxycontin on the street when they were relatively cheap still,and I found it to be a miracle drug as I have always had chronic stomach pain,and it took it all away,I could eat work,go to school,all pain free,and high to boot.Then one day I woke up sick,did some morphine and felt better,100% I realized then I was addicted.

Luckily MY Doc was a good guy,and after telling him I was spending my deceased mothers money she left me on opiates,he gave me an Rx for OC 80's until methadone became available in my small community. unfortunately I was terminated from the program,and my doc is attempting to wean me off using MS Contin.I started at 600 mg's per day,and am now down to 130 mg's per day.So I am trying to do something about it.I wish I would have been smarter when I first started using,and never picked up the needle.Once you experience drugs by the mainline,no ther ROA's come even remotely close.(most opiates anyway)
 
^ Absolutely. That's why I've never gone near it. I'm going to smoke or snort and if that stops being strong enough, I put myself through withdrawals for a week or so. It's hellish but nothing compared to what it could be like.
Well done for getting down to 130mg mate :) That's a big achievement.
 
I was addicted to crack for a couple years, been clean of it for almost 4 years now... I started off doing coke, and was hooked on that... my dealer slipped me some rock "by mistake" after about 6 months of steady addiction building on the pow... so it was either smoke it or waste it... I have an extreme fear of needles, so that wasn't an option, and I wasn't as intelligent about things as I am now. I didn't realize the things I was throwing away around me, my family and loved ones, my education, I got to the point where the girl was all that mattered to me... I never stole for my habit, or pawned my stuff, and held down a job, and that was how I justified to myself I wasn't an addict. it took going on a 9 day binge with no sleep, complete with psychosis, to convince me to walk away from it. I don't remember exactly when the addiction took over who I was, but looking back now I can see that I had allowed it to control my life. when I got started on the path, it was all fun and games, a high I enjoyed and throughout the whole experience, I convinced myself I was in control. I put my life, my freedom, my family and everything important to me at risk, all for that 5 minutes of euphoria and 2 hours craving afterwards... I thank God for waking me up and showing me a better path. I still experiment with things, but never again will I allow something to control me such as this. I have a better group of friends around me who won't pull, tricks like that on me.

sorry if it sounds preachy, but that is how I got addicted to the tanned girl and how I got away from her grasp, as well.

-OcO-
 
That's right, whoever said things are never black and white is right. They never are. Everyone has their reasons for choosing, not choosing, having a strange attraction to the demons they do. And the traditional path of those drugs isn't always the path that is followed. If it was, half of bluelight would be dead.
 
I agree addiction is not inevitable but unfortunately some feel it is and are quick to label themselves and other as being addicts or with other such labels, if you feel you are in control of a certain behaviour or what you’re doing then surely that’s ok.

And yes none of us know what’s ahead but we are able to listen and learn from those around us so we can make informed decisions of which we take the responsibility for.

Reading this back it sounds like I’m sat very much on the fence, but then when you’re exposed to only the negative side of substance misuse it’s hard not to do anything else.
 
Grass was far more damaging to my mental health and general state of being that dope/oxy ever was, just mentioning it for comparisons sake (as long as i had some that is lolz). I could quote almost every post in this first page as a reason or part reason i did H (fun, boredom, apathy, curiosity, bleak feelings in my head, hooked on other drugs, "it wont happen to me" etc etc). I regret hurting my parents and they anguish/worry i've caused but take that away and i dont regret it at all really, its aburden but its also relief aswell, like a crappy relationship where you have amazing sex.
 
From what I've heard (ever done myself), it's the "Just once" thought. Never is that way. Or some ppl are in so much pain, ANYTHING will do. Or they are set on self-destruction for whatever reason. That is my take on it.
 
ArtisicCreative86 said:
Why does one start using heroin or crack KNOWING what is coming for them down the pike?
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It is all what you make of it my friend.

If you dont have an addictive personality and only want to get a rush every once in a while while feeling pure opioid bliss than whats the big deal about using? I hear what you are saying though bc everyone knows the potential risks like od, disease, abscess, addiction, etc yet they still choose to use the drug. But as long as using safely doesnt turn into addiction you can use your blunt statement in a huge multitude of ways: why do people still choose to have un protected sex with the risk of disease and pregnancy? There are millions of things we as humans do on a daily basis that fit your statement. This is a bad question my dude.
 
Drugs without legs... I never heard that before. True tho, and there is a Crack XR Captiain I tried it yesterday!!

(joking ha ha ha)
 
Pillthrill said:
From what I've heard (ever done myself), it's the "Just once" thought. Never is that way. Or some ppl are in so much pain, ANYTHING will do. Or they are set on self-destruction for whatever reason. That is my take on it.
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Very interesting discussions, which prove two things to me firstly, i was right in joining Bluelight and secondly i have an awful lot to learn. There are so many different factors that can make someone turn to substances be it pain, sadness, suffering etc... but for some it's just boredom or related to the social learning theory, addiction is an addiction in it's own right...
 
To put it another way...

... the statistics for marriage leading to divorce tend to be pretty grim. But people do it anyway without thinking, well, there's a high chance of this not working.

Of course, couples that are aware of the pitfalls and dangers are more likely to make conscious actions to ensure their marriage does indeed last.

I hope my analogy makes sense. It does to me but it's 6am at the moment :\
 
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