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Legitimate Legal uses for RC's

I work for a research company....

You can keep in mind that some research is considered classified due to risk of patent infringement as to what your doing with it.

I had to sign a nondisclosure agreement for my job.

So you might be able to pull out something along the lines of "im doing plant research, this is part of it, and other than that, due to the possibility of patent infringement I can not go more in depth than that."

But generally do not even tell the cops what it is, if they can find nothing to charge you with, they have a problem. the area is so grey its amazing. Your case of it being not for human consumption is better assuming its a baggie of powder and not gel caps, and no scale is present. Even better if you can get your vendor to ship you out of Certificate of Analysis, and MSDS for the batch, but unless your dealing directly with the chemist in china or wherever that is difficult.

I mean it really is possible to get pulled over with strange research crap in your car.... If i have to leave work before fedex or ups gets there outgoing packages have to be dropped off. Should i get pulled over between work and the ups store, i might have a few cases of human tissue and some other stuff.... Granted biologic things have to be labeled specifically....

Or hell, find some biological stickers and package things up before you decide to drive with them. Cops are not going to open your mail. They are really not going to open your mail if it has a sticker that says "UN3373 Class B Biological". I would avoid biohazard and radioactive stuff, no one is going to open either but they might question why you are moving such things...
 
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Coolio said:
In the event you are arrested, you have the right to remain silent.

There's no reason to come up with a legitimate use for it. The prosecution would have to prove your intent to use it for human consumption. In lieu of that proof, you're innocent.
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Right I realize that. I just also know the way some drug trials work and with the whole mentality of the war on drugs it seems like sometimes the inverse is true. Guilty until proven innocent. THe prosecutor and police say proof of intent is possesion itself since there are no other legitimate uses... "You aren't a scientist in a lab so what good does it do you having a bunch of rc powder if you weren't consuming it..

I'm not personally worried, I started this thread out of curiosity as to if there are legitimate uses for normal people(non professional scientific). I thought it would be funny if there actually were legit things people could say that make it really hard with certain rc's even if direct anologue, to suggest consumption. Like I said... bromodragonfly bugspray is an example of what i meant.

Anyway i thought of one. I believe methylone or some other drug in dutch smartshops used to be sold as airfreshener or something.
 
Iodjini_dk said:
Br-dragonfly could probably be used as rat poison =D Heck, its even more toxic than rat poison.

I can only think of using GBL as a solvent, but that hardly goes under the therm research chemical.

Otherwise I only think youd have a legitimate use of them if you used them for real scientific research. Assaying their receptor affinity for instance.
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GBL is used as a solvent often. I had a friend(since died from coke od :( ) who was crazy and decided to drink glue debonder because he wanted to do ghb but couldn't get any. He did and maybe it worked? but it made him super sick obviously and I hardly see how it was worth it. I know people say rcs aren't meant for consumption when usually they are consumed but there is one case where you really shouldn't consume one.... Don't drink glue debonder to get gbl.

He said the gbl turns into ghb in your stomach but it probably took a big chunk of his gi tract with it!!

O and I know about the assaying but unless you were a pro scientist or had lots of equipment and knew what u were doing I can't see that happening so it would be pretty easy for them to prove that wasn't your reason for possesing said substance...

Anyway you'd have to do that on rats or something right? cOuldn't it be animal abuse if you didn't have some kind of lab permit if you were dosing rats or slicing up their brains?
 
I know people say rcs aren't meant for consumption when usually they are consumed but there is one case where you really shouldn't consume one.... Don't drink glue debonder to get gbl.
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Drinking glue debonder isn't consuming an RC, it's drinking glue debonder.
 
Coolio said:
You fail to understand. Someone shouldn't say he uses it for anything. When asked, don't answer. It's none of their business what you use uncontrolled chemical compounds for.
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I'm talking in court though. You gotta understand the American justice system and how that relates to the stigma attached to anything that relates to "drugs" at all. Of course when someone is getting arrested or even interrogated they should NEVER talk to cops....


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865#

However, in court and with an attorney it might hurt you alot if you don't say something. You gotta remember the jury is probably mostly brainwashed sheeple indoctrinated by drug war misinformation. In their eyes rc user on trial is an evil person who's mere possession is proof of intent to commit a psychedelic thought crime. The way non analogue drug laws work makes them more likely to convict too because they see someone has weed or has acid say and they are LEGALLY convicted on that wether or not there is intent to use. That works against you. Plus the prosecution will say lsd, mdma or stimulant(like evil meth) to compare to your RC and the jury will think... "THIS GUY IS AN EVIL DRUG USER" because of their irrational bias! The prosecution will use your silence against you and convince the jury that it is clear the only thing you could have used Xsubstance for is duhn duhn duhn... getting high and there fore you deserve 20 years in jail... probably for trying to have an introspective experience.... Can you imagine if people weren't dumbasses and they understood how many people are affected positively by psychedelic experiences. If only they understood arresting someone for stuff like this is often like breaking into a psychologists practice, charging them with dealing(psychology) and arresting their patient for intoxication and possesion...
 
It's perfectly legal to collect unscheduled psychoactive chemicals in baggies as art/hobby. Like stamp collecting, or biological specimen collecting. Some people have a collection of a tiny example of every element of the periodic table. A scale is definitely a necessary tool for any RC art or hobbyist collector.
 
half of the crap that says its similar to "coke, E or whatever" are RC in disguise...


Room air fresheners are another one they use.... plant food, bath salts, cleaning solvents, and ect...
 
if authorities were to question you about your RC collection, simply say..."I don't know". play dumb. you don't know what they are, what they're used for, or where they came from.
 
underground_troll said:
if authorities were to question you about your RC collection, simply say..."I don't know". play dumb. you don't know what they are, what they're used for, or where they came from.
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huh? If someone is arrested with an rc chemical just pretend you've never seen it before even though its in the person's car or house or wherever.

No officer i don't know how this got in my pocket.... Certainly isn't mine...
 
Choronzon333 said:
huh? If someone is arrested with an rc chemical just pretend you've never seen it before even though its in the person's car or house or wherever.

No officer i don't know how this got in my pocket.... Certainly isn't mine...
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Yes, that's long been established as proprietary behavior for a criminal suspect. When law enforcement asks you any questions, you refer them to you lawyer.
 
Coolio said:
Yes, that's long been established as proprietary behavior for a criminal suspect. When law enforcement asks you any questions, you refer them to you lawyer.
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I get that. I posted the this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865#

Not talking isn't the same as acting as if you don't know how it got there and telling them you don't know. You just tell them you aren't gonna let them know without consulting an attorney...
 
Coolio said:
In the event you are arrested, you have the right to remain silent.

There's no reason to come up with a legitimate use for it. The prosecution would have to prove your intent to use it for human consumption. In lieu of that proof, you're innocent.
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Ideally. For the most part in America your guilty until proven innocent though, especially when any sort of drug is involved
 
Not wanting to hijack the topic, but I have a closely related question..

In the event you order a small reasonable amount (say 5g or less) of an RC, watched chem, or spore kit, etc. over the internet (for a valid reason of course) - Ive assumed there is a 95% chance they wont even know or care to f with you. A much smaller chance that you will get a seizure letter from them. And then a really really small chance someone shows up at your door asking if you will sign/accept/take possession of this mystery package that was sent to you.
Which of course, you can either not talk, or support your claim with some reason.

Is this basically accurate, or no? Ive always operated as such but thought Id double check.. after all, I would not want to start a perfectly legal hobby only to find out about legal hassles involved.

By the way, whenever Ive heard of anyone going down, it seems like it would have turned out better if they had a film dark room and a 35mm camera, a recently cleaned swimming pool, some bonsai tree saplings, a chemistry book with earmarked pages on 'suspected' amplified NSAIDs, a collection of elemental powders and compounds, or anything at all to support a hobby. Any one of them being a small legal hobby investment IMO..
 
Choronzon333 said:
HAHAHAHAHA. IDK WHat about rat remover(deterrent)? Is that legal? Like you put dob on cheese and then the rat eats it and trips the fuck out and you catch him and remover him without killing. Meanwhile he probably won't ever want to come back to your house... Or what about bug spray?
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Like Naked Lunch?
 
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