Thoughts on Psychedelics and Yoga

[rollin_stoned]

i recently got into yoga and absolutely love it and i'm hoping to one day take some LSD before

 

[*Love*Lite*]

LoveLite, what do you think of , say, Alester Crowleys use and explanation of yoga into western occultism?

saaayyyy wahhhh? Ill check it out on wiki and get back to ya you little cutie!

 

[Delsyd]

Oh and a little more on-topic: I wish I would remember to more often when I trip, but am often distracted or too active... but yoga on something like LSD really lets me realign flow of energy which is soo beneficial to the trip!! .

at a concert once, i dont remember what i was on but im pretty sure it was LSD, i just made my way to the back of the crowd and started doing all sorts of yoga stretches/poses.
This was at a time when i was doing yoga almost daily (need to get back into that habit, perhaps having L*L get her yoga teaching certificate will help with that, sorry, off topic).

anyway, that was the most spiritual and refreshing session i ever had and i know LSD played a big part in that.

yoga on psychedelics just feels good

i wish i could expand on the topic more and give better input but thats all i have to add.

 

[DrugOmen]

excellent post friend Im glad that you have also noticed the connection with tryptamines and these ancient spiritual poses that do seem to be ingrained in us. Part of the collective human consciousness or something. I have even witnessed people who have had no experience with yoga bust some out after several whopping rips of DMT. Interesting indeed.

I think that the meditative mind state in yoga comes from focusing on the breath and movements at hand in that moment. Any time that I shut out all other thoughts and just exist for those breaths and those movements I would consider meditation.

Heres something interesting to add.. Ok all of my life up until i first dosed mdma i could not sit in "indian style" position or cross legged. My legs just would not ever be able to get into that position, but one day i was rolling and i was just feeling so spiritual; i sat down on my floor in perfect cross legged position and just meditated to the music and became one with the vibrations and it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Then thats when i realized what i was doing and its been a divine thought ever since.

 

[ikkyu]

I once took a bunch of LSD, probably more than I was prepared to have at the time, and found that doing sun salutations during the peak and thereafter helped very much in terms of allowing me stay focused, grounded, etc. And on a purely physical level I think stretching (within reasonable limits, keeping in mind that it's possible to go too far into some positions as MyExcuse mentioned above) can help with the muscle tension that is often a side effect of stimulating psychedelics (the 2Cs come to mind).

Psychedelics and yoga are two different paths to two different ends, IMO, but that need not prevent the two systems from informing each other in some positive way. It is evident to me as well that both practices touch upon some primal nexus of human-ness given that certain asanas and mudras can figure rather significantly within both frameworks.

And for the record I do consider yoga a meditative discipline but it isn't to be conflated with others of that sort, like zazen or kinhin (walking meditation) or any number of other ways of going about it.

 

[swilow]

saaayyyy wahhhh? Ill check it out on wiki and get back to ya you little cutie!

Yar, yoga was (and is) a huge part of magick. Crowley did a lot to demistyfy it (though he also added his own weird twist to t, as he did to most esoteric belief systems). He wote a series of books called "Equinox" (there are nine or so volumes about 3000 pages each ) whci deals with that sort of thing. Yoga is also used in chaos magick; though normally to upset the "natural balance" of ones mind then centre it; a dfferent way to the same thing in the end.

This is A.C's Eight Lectures on Yoga"... Be wary, he uses language in an odd way (ie. a lot of what he wrtes is intended to be confusing at first). When you get used to it, sense is made. Massve Hindu influence, the chapters on pranyama are good (remember to not take him verbatim)....

Yes, I like Alester Crowley A weird, but very intellgent and almost certainly magckal person. The actual practise I'm involved in is based largely around interpretations of his writings...

Hahah funny quote:

14. Perhaps the first thing you notice is that, although you have started in what is apparently the most comfortable position, there is a tendency to change that position without informing you. For example, if you are sitting in the 'god' position with your knees together, you will find in a few minutes that they have moved gently apart, without your noticing it. Freud would doubtless inform you that this is due to an instinctive exacerbation of infantile sexual theories. I hope that no one here is going to bother me with that sort of nauseating nonsense.

 

[Sustanon]

I try to mediate on shrooms or acid sitting down crossed legs but then give up after 1 min as i get distracted by the OEVs LOL

 

[leet]

this is a very intriguing thread. i don’t do yoga, but practice taiji. earlier this year, i took psychedelics for the first time in 20 years. over 3 hours had passed, and i was out walking barefoot in the country, approaching my destination. i was tripping, but it wasn’t how i remembered it. watched by some curious cows, i decided to do some taiji before carrying on over the hill to the beach.

at the end of the sequence, i closed my eyes and woosh! the trip took on a much deeper and more significant meaning. i felt very at one with nature. I didn’t do any more taiji after that, as the whole event moved up to at least +++. the ground was so soft and warm i was groaning with pleasure as i walked on it. the rest of the trip was spent splashing on the seashore as the tide came in. my only companions, the crabs, snails, shrimps, sandhoppers, and assorted wildlife seemed to fully accept my presence.

it had been three hours since i had taken the psych’s on an empty stomach and they were having very little effect, i'm convinced the taiji definitely pushed the whole trip on and up to a much better place.

recently when rolling on mdma i did taiji in a shpongle concert. this was very pleasant, but didn’t actually change anything.

i have done taiji on cocaine in the past, and found it to be a very deceptive drug, as i felt I could do more than normal. i think cocaine is much more likely to lead someone to injure themselves because of the false confidence ability this drug engenders

i really hope to able to repeat the taiji/psychedelic experience again one day.