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Thoughts on Psychedelics and Yoga

*Love*Lite*

*Love*Lite*

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Yoga and Psychedelics? Two paths to the same means?

yoga and psychedelics can elevate you to this place where you are existing outside of your mind, just flowing in the motions, existing in this larger world being a part of it all, working on your mind and body while being separate from it if possible through meditation. Psychedelics can take you to that same place existing outside of your body and mind.

Do you guys have any experiences using psychedelics while doing yoga? I find that on DMT i always fall into childs pose and it just feels natural and allows me to surrender to the moment.

What connections can we make between the 2? Any thoughts or comments would be wonderful.

Namaste <3
 
Why do you need to use psychedelics to enjoy yoga or to get something out of yoga? Shouldn't yoga be enough on its own?
 
*Love*Lite* said:
disagree 100%
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look it up.

or since you say it is I can say practicing masochism is meditation?

but to answer you, I havn't tried yoga or meditation for more then an hour above the influence.
and I don't think I've tried either while tripping, unless you consider mdma. in which case the hell-of-a-good-feeling just got better when I sat cross legged, closed my eyes, and just tried to be aware.

tomorrow. I will try maybe some stretches and of course soul searching.
(gonna eat some shrooms)
 
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when i practice yoga i try to meditate on the moment, escape my thoughts and let the movements flow through me. Meditation is one of the most key elements of yoga for myself and many others. I also find that incorporating actual meditation into the flow somewhere (specifically at the end) is very effective and a great way to solidify the act of moving and quiet stillness meditation that is yoga.
 
I want to become more comfortable and able with meditation, and it seems like yoga is a good vehicle to reach the mindset for it...But L*L, do I need to be able to go to classes in order to really understand and utilize yoga? or is there something I can do just at home to learn it and use it?

EDIT: My bad, for taking that kinda off-topic, ill bring some back :) It seems like yoga and psychedelics could be two paths to the same means...and hjj, for arguing this, not all psychedelic use is to reach this goal, just as maybe not all yoga is to reach this goal, but the idea that they can be used for this is whats important. I think there are plenty of ppl that would agree they both have the ability to take you to the same place, I think psychedelics might also just be another facilitator, just like yoga is
 
Neuro, i would definitely suggest a class to begin. After you get a good basis of understanding you can branch out and start practicing at home. Actually scratch that, there are plenty of videos and books that you can check out to get into yoga at home. Yoga and meditation go hand in hand for me. But apparently not for everyone. <3
 
Thanks L*L :) I'm sure that when under the influence of a psychedelic, reaching that goal with yoga becomes easier right? The only connection b/t the two that I can make is that they are both vehicles to get to the same place (if used for that). Just like with other forms of meditation, or putting ur body under stress through fasting, or repeating mantras, there are a bunch of ways utilized to reach transcendence. I think which one you use comes down to the person. Like I said, i've never really felt like an effective meditator lol, but idk how to be better at it or how to practice really, so psychedelics make it easier for me to use meditation...and also I can use smaller doses of psychedelics bc all I need is the slight opening of my mind that psychedelics give me and then meditation can take me the rest of the way
 
I personally hold to the concept that any type of strenuous physical activity while on psychedelics is a BAD thing.

Normally, while sober, your body has certain autonomic processes in place to prevent you from overstretching your muscles. When you take a hallucinogen, that throws a wrench in the wheels of your bodies ability to process sensory information (good and bad).

This means that you are incapable of fully comprehending when you have stretched too far. A hypothetical example would be Doc Ellis and his no-hitter game. An ability to stretch muscles farther than they normally can, would allow for increased capabilities as far as physical activity are concerned. I think a good question would be to find out if he experienced more aches and pains after that game than usual.

Anyway, if you are experienced in Yoga, than it would be a non-issue as a large part of yoga is repetition and learning what positions to go in and how they are performed, thus you would be able to simply get into the correct position without any problems.

However, for someone not experienced or new to yoga, doing yoga while on hallucinogens could be dangerous and cause unwanted results the day after.
 
i took a yoga class in college, but i don't remember many positions - what i do remember is the sacred breathing and i do that whenever i feel low - i could see it really improving a trip..

here - for people who haven't encountered it before -

stand straight - feet a few feet apart
breath in slowly counting to 5 and raise your hands above your head
hold the breath counting 5
exhale slowly counting 5 and lower your hands to your sides
count 5 before the next inhale

repeat this for a few minutes and you'll feel really good like you finally just woke up today - keep going for a half hour and you'll be high on life in a big way..!!
 
Whats interesing to me is that there are plenty of stories of higher dose tryptamine experiences where people start to exhibit some sorts of involuntary movement that seem to be almost like in the instinctive or transpersonal realm (dont mean this new agey just that its programmed in the course of evolution in like some unconscious part). The movements can range from apparently spiritual positions like for a kind of prayer or ritual to actual yoga. Also there are these hindu hand gestures that I've seen that bear meaning.

It's peculiar isn't it? It would suggest that there are some things hardwired into our human being that we all share and that just comes out in certain states of mind. And of course, it was seen hundreds or thousands or who knows how many years before, this stuff is ancient... and when I have navigated these experiences myself it has sometimes definitely felt ancient.


Oh and a little more on-topic: I wish I would remember to more often when I trip, but am often distracted or too active... but yoga on something like LSD really lets me realign flow of energy which is soo beneficial to the trip!! Meditation is sort of picking up where yoga leaves off in that respect so I definitely agree with L*L that they are two of a kind although maybe not one and the same.
I know people that when they took mushrooms and sat in lotus position that they could feel electricity jump when their hands met, while the position of the legs helped thrust their kundalini much better somehow.

I am convinced that overall these yoga positions support a significantly deeper trip as well as more peace and stability and a platform for meditation.
 
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Solipsis said:
Whats interesing to me is that there are plenty of stories of higher dose tryptamine experiences where people start to exhibit some sorts of involuntary movement that seem to be almost like in the instinctive or transpersonal realm (dont mean this new agey just that its programmed in the course of evolution in like some unconscious part). The movements can range from apparently spiritual positions like for a kind of prayer or ritual to actual yoga. Also there are these hindu hand gestures that I've seen that bear meaning.
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i have noticed such things as well. but its not exclusive to tryptamines, or high doses, in my experience. never full fledged yoga though, mostly spiritual positionings and/or mudras. they indeed seem to happen on their own accord, from within, [edit] without any prior knowledge of them on part of the subject
 
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I've done a whole lot of yoga during every single psychedelic trip I've taken lately....mainly on the come down of oral DMT and it is an aboslutely divine experience. Yoga on its on is an amazing form of meditation for me and psychedelics helps me to become even more aware of that flowing energy and lose myself in the flowing stream of the universes energy.
 
ive really been interested in trying this. is yoga something you can do by yourself or do you need a class?
 
Solipsis said:
Whats interesing to me is that there are plenty of stories of higher dose tryptamine experiences where people start to exhibit some sorts of involuntary movement that seem to be almost like in the instinctive or transpersonal realm (dont mean this new agey just that its programmed in the course of evolution in like some unconscious part). The movements can range from apparently spiritual positions like for a kind of prayer or ritual to actual yoga. Also there are these hindu hand gestures that I've seen that bear meaning.

It's peculiar isn't it? It would suggest that there are some things hardwired into our human being that we all share and that just comes out in certain states of mind. And of course, it was seen hundreds or thousands or who knows how many years before, this stuff is ancient... and when I have navigated these experiences myself it has sometimes definitely felt ancient.


Oh and a little more on-topic: I wish I would remember to more often when I trip, but am often distracted or too active... but yoga on something like LSD really lets me realign flow of energy which is soo beneficial to the trip!! Meditation is sort of picking up where yoga leaves off in that respect so I definitely agree with L*L that they are two of a kind although maybe not one and the same.
I know people that when they took mushrooms and sat in lotus position that they could feel electricity jump when their hands met, while the position of the legs helped thrust their kundalini much better somehow.

I am convinced that overall these yoga positions support a significantly deeper trip as well as more peace and stability and a platform for meditation.
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excellent post friend <3 Im glad that you have also noticed the connection with tryptamines and these ancient spiritual poses that do seem to be ingrained in us. Part of the collective human consciousness or something. I have even witnessed people who have had no experience with yoga bust some out after several whopping rips of DMT. Interesting indeed.

I think that the meditative mind state in yoga comes from focusing on the breath and movements at hand in that moment. Any time that I shut out all other thoughts and just exist for those breaths and those movements I would consider meditation. <3
 
*Love*Lite* said:
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Agree 100%.

Yoga can be medtation or it can be simple, FUNDAMENTAL movements which, like the Qaballah, capture the essence of life/conciousness. Its a movement towards the peak, as is the Qaballah and the Vipissana meditation.

I have to say, my experience wth Yoga is lacking; however, I do feel that the movements one endures under tryptamine-light are simlar; a coherent outpouring of stucture unto a chaos-void.

And yeah, it feels great. :):)
 
Newmoonrecord said:
ive really been interested in trying this. is yoga something you can do by yourself or do you need a class?
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A class will help teach you, but it cetainly can be perfomed by ones-self, and also alone :D Same with meditation; a class helps, but the benefts are only discovered when pondering alone.

LoveLite, what do you think of , say, Alester Crowleys use and explanation of yoga into western occultism?
 
There are some books published on raja yoga. Almost nothing compares to having another practitioner mentor you through the stages, but application is key.
 
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