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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010
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I just tried subutex for the first time today. I took 2mg, then another 2mg about 3 hours later. I feel little to nothing, and I have no opioid tolerance (aside from a natural one)....
What the hell? 4mg should be quite abit for someone without a tolerance. Is this shit going to creep up on me tomorrow or something?
What the hell? 4mg should be quite abit for someone without a tolerance. Is this shit going to creep up on me tomorrow or something?
Captain.Heroin
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You may not respond well to buprenorphine. Do you have much experience with it? How long has it been since you have used short acting opiates/high potency opiates?
I haven't used opioids in a while. I have never used bupe. Methadone was the last thing I used and that was some time ago. Keep in mind, with methadone I was able to take 50-60mg without getting ill (borderline, but not too sick) with zero tolerance.
Should I try a single 8mg dose on a different day? IVing is no longer an option for me, so that is out.
Should I try a single 8mg dose on a different day? IVing is no longer an option for me, so that is out.
Captain.Heroin
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I would try taking 4mg or 8mg at once, and then you could obviously use 6/7's method. Do you need a link to it?
Also, just curious, why is IVing not an option any more?
What is "6/7's" method?
In regards to IVing, I would just not rather to take it to that level again. Why, is it much more effective? These 8mg pills seem pretty large, I would be a bit worried about particulates and would most likely need a micron filter.
Will this shit creep up on me later? I had 2mg intranasal then 2mg sublingual. I took some benzos, maybe that blunted it. My pupils dont even look constricted, I have no itching other typical opioid effects. Maybe a little anxiolysis, i can feel something but its very, very mild. I was under the impression that 4mg was a high dose for a non-tolerant, first time bupe user.
In regards to IVing, I would just not rather to take it to that level again. Why, is it much more effective? These 8mg pills seem pretty large, I would be a bit worried about particulates and would most likely need a micron filter.
Will this shit creep up on me later? I had 2mg intranasal then 2mg sublingual. I took some benzos, maybe that blunted it. My pupils dont even look constricted, I have no itching other typical opioid effects. Maybe a little anxiolysis, i can feel something but its very, very mild. I was under the impression that 4mg was a high dose for a non-tolerant, first time bupe user.
Captain.Heroin, I apologize for the drug test question. As you can see I am very very new to this site. Is there a forum with that topic, I could not find one, or is there any place you can direct me. Obviosly I searched the web with that question and the results that I got were very amateur. Someone like you with the amount of knowledge on these subjects hopefully can direct me to an accurate source. If not it's cool, guess I will find out the hard way.Again, I apoloize for posting that DT question in this thread.
As for my Her/Sub situaion from before, if I would of waited out the prec withdrawal I put myself in, how long will I of been sick, and what would happen after, would the Sub kick in and would I feel better, how does that work?? Thanks again!!
As for my Her/Sub situaion from before, if I would of waited out the prec withdrawal I put myself in, how long will I of been sick, and what would happen after, would the Sub kick in and would I feel better, how does that work?? Thanks again!!
Captain.Heroin
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A way to get more BA out of sublingual buprenorphine.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=404947
There's the link.
IVing buprenorphine is not much more effective if you're not feeling it with other ROA's. You have to have a rather low opiate tolerance for IV buprenorphine to be much good, and some people don't ever get any good effects out of it beyond higher BA and quicker onset.
If you ever do IV it, and you can get micron filters, please do use them.
It probably will creep up on you later, because sublingual buprenorphine will take me at least an hour and a half, maybe 2 hours until I'm fully feeling it.
Give it some time and see what you think.
Captain.Heroin
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I'm not sure of any other websites that allow such questions. Other people might know though, sorry I couldn't help you out there.
Precipitated WD's typically don't last very long but I haven't ever experienced them I really couldn't say.
You might not feel better until the 2nd or 3rd dose of buprenorphine until you get the full effects out of it. Plus, you want to wait until you really are in WD before taking it.
Any other questions? Feel free to ask me I'll be around.
Would it be worth snorting another 2mg? I mean, can you feel additional buprenorphine after already taking some? In other words, will redosing produce an additive effect?
Methadone gets me way, way higher, pinned and nodding...
I dont feel any of the energy or anti-depressant qualities of this bupe. Hopefully if I snort another 2mg I won't get sick tomorrow.
Methadone gets me way, way higher, pinned and nodding...
I dont feel any of the energy or anti-depressant qualities of this bupe. Hopefully if I snort another 2mg I won't get sick tomorrow.
In the past I have pretty much been in full blown WD before taking Sub, and within 10 minutes I was always feeling better, and with a nice buzz. But those tiimes I couldn't get anything thats why I was sick, and I had no other options. Now, all I have to do is make a phone call. So are you saying that the tiny bit of powder I took was just not enough, and if I took more I would not of
gotton sick. Heres the thing, within 10 minutes of taking the Sub I got worse, that I do know. So would you say that it gets worse before it gets better. I'm definetely baffled by this, like i said in the past I never had to deal with this, I was already WDing pretty bad. Now it sucks, beause I have to judge how bad I really feel, and its very easy to trick yourself into thinking that its worse than it really is. And tomorrow I have to do this process again, wait until the gram of heroin wears off, and then take the Sub, but this time I cant save myself by getting dope if I go into prec. WD again because of the drug test I have on Mon or Tue. So what would be the minimum symptoms of WD to take Sub. Anyone with prec. wd please help...Thanks!
Captain.Heroin
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You can always take more until you feel it for sure. Some people actually need to take up to 8, 16, 24mg. Just take 2mg every half hour to hour until you feel better/good, etc.
There's nothing wrong with redosing at all though, I like taking buprenorphine several times in a day.
I'm not really sure to be honest - you probably should have waited a few hours later, or even longer depending on what you were using previously, and a few other factors. I can't say if you took more Suboxone it would help or not - it probably would have made for a more intense precipitated WD, but I could never really say for sure.
Next time I would just wait as long as possible until you get on Suboxone.
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Just took another 2mg intranasal, thats a total of 6mg with no tolerance. I even took a couple of ativan and xanax, not feeling much.
Do people get typical opioid effects like pupil constriction and itching with bupe? I don't feel any nausea, or dizziness.
Perhaps its because I took kratom this morning, but i doubt that....
Do people get typical opioid effects like pupil constriction and itching with bupe? I don't feel any nausea, or dizziness.
Perhaps its because I took kratom this morning, but i doubt that....
Captain.Heroin
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To be fair, Suboxone is only 2% buprenorphine. So, snorting Suboxone - I don't think you're really getting all 50% BA if you have 98% filler. Who knows though...anyways, 6mg to hold yourself isn't uncommon for someone with a tolerance. You say you don't have one, but everyone is different and some people are sensitive or insensitive to particular classes of drugs, maybe you have some tolerance to opiates, probably also environmental tolerance, and then also you could be insensitive to opiates as well.
If I have 0.5mg xanax with my buprenorphine I definitely can feel it very well and am rather high from it. I think I might just be sensitive to opiates.
Finally I feel something form the 6mg of bupe, although it is not too strong. Also took 1mg of xanax and 1mg of ativan, and 20mg zolpidem.
Again, i can take 50-60mg of methadone, which could potentially kill or sicken a typical non-toleran person. 60mg is pushing the line though. This is nowhere close that. I'd equate this 6mg with about 15-20mg of methadone with no tolerance.
Maybe ill try to plug 8mg....
Again, i can take 50-60mg of methadone, which could potentially kill or sicken a typical non-toleran person. 60mg is pushing the line though. This is nowhere close that. I'd equate this 6mg with about 15-20mg of methadone with no tolerance.
Maybe ill try to plug 8mg....
I know about subs in the wait..but
Hey guys, I am new here.
I already did a search and could not find the exact answer im looking for.
I know about the subs and there is usually like a 48 waiting period. (For me its longer I can do a oxy 80 and not feel it all)
But... I have been off subs for a whole while. Although the other day, I took like a piece of a piece of 8mg sub. Just a crumb, because I did half a 8 mg when I had not tolerance and those suckers are strong, it made me lose my cookie. Well I did not FEEL nothing off them.
So I am sitting here the next day, with two extra strength vicoden, and was wondering since I havent did dope in forever, or subs except that little I broke off.
My question is should I take them. It wouldn't be no big deal if it's a waiste because it just 2 lortabs. But, I do sorta want to feel something.
Hey guys, I am new here.
I already did a search and could not find the exact answer im looking for.
I know about the subs and there is usually like a 48 waiting period. (For me its longer I can do a oxy 80 and not feel it all)
But... I have been off subs for a whole while. Although the other day, I took like a piece of a piece of 8mg sub. Just a crumb, because I did half a 8 mg when I had not tolerance and those suckers are strong, it made me lose my cookie. Well I did not FEEL nothing off them.
So I am sitting here the next day, with two extra strength vicoden, and was wondering since I havent did dope in forever, or subs except that little I broke off.
My question is should I take them. It wouldn't be no big deal if it's a waiste because it just 2 lortabs. But, I do sorta want to feel something.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
You probably won't feel 2 lortabs. Sorry.
Stick to Suboxone until your tolerance drops down.
-> Suboxone Mega Thread
Stick to Suboxone until your tolerance drops down.
-> Suboxone Mega Thread
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Plugging would get the most out of it for you I think, since sublingual without 6/7's method has a low BA, and snorting something that is only 2% active ingredient probably won't yield the whole amount of buprenorphine being absorbed.
I haven't tried plugging anything but let us know how it goes for you if you try it out.
Man, I wont lie I have plugged stuff before, but the WATSONS are horse pill mans, there now way there going up my @ss!
johanneschimpo
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^ you aren't supposed to put them in whole. 
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