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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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I think you are all talking about the same chinese vendor who used to have a website and now only works with old customers.... Don't quote me, though, as I am not certain on the 2c-b-fly as I didn't even want to bother to ask if they stocked it.
 
My batch of AMT was one of the later ones that was properly labeled as the freebase, coming from the same vendor as others here, and even bearing the dreaded designation "batch b1" :\

But I'm glad to hear from delsymfan that it seems to be pure and active at the proper doses. It seems like this would be so as the chem is white and odourless, and AMT freebase is known to smell pretty bad even if there is a tiny amount of impurity. I still don't trust that 99.74% purity rating, although vaporizing small amount couldn't hurt and seems to be a good choice for a first assay.
 
It vaporizes quite cleanly, doesnt leave much residue.

Also smells kinda dank but not horribly so. It appears pretty clean to me.

Judging by the fact its gone lol... id say it was!
 
That's good to hear, I guess if it was at all contaminated it would be obvious at this point.

Thanks for your input, that calms me considerably... Too bad about your other orders, but I guess that's just how things are when ordering RC's.
 
Well who knows, we may have Bromo-DragonFLY so that may turn out useful anyway.. pending further testing.

Such is life.

Shame I just didnt buy a shit-ton more of this AMT to tide me over. It seems very random with dose response in people. I think I need more than the average joe.
 
Yeah BDF would be a pretty rare find in and of itself, I hope it tests out OK.

I stocked up because simple tryptamines always catch my eye, and AMT is one I've had my eye on for a while. I'm usually pretty sensitive dose-wise so this should last me a while, I'm very exited to try this one out. I have some 4-AcO-DMT so I'll probably try combining the two if they are as heavenly a combo as Xorkoth says, which I'm sure it will be.
 
That does sound like a nice combo. Just start easy. That whole mild MAOI bit I suppose.

I personally dont think it's much to write home about as long as you keep the AMT side of the combo down.

It does seem very combo-friendly though I never got a chance to try any.
 
^The MAOI stuff isn't that significant. It's the monoamine release and re-uptake inhibition that's probably responsible for most worrisome reactions.

I rarely use aMT alone at psychedelic doses. I find it quite nice, but it isn't that psychedelic, and for its brand of euphoria there are shorter lasting alternatives. Still, low dose aMT makes a solid recreational euphoriant that isn't expensive, particularly in combination with low doses of amphetamine(s). However, as a supplement to other psychedelics its utility is unparalleled. It's channeled everything I've mixed with it in a very positive direction. Two of my plus four experiences have been aMT combos: aMT/4-AcO-DMT and aMT/DPT.

The last time I did aMT with 4-AcO-DMT was great, too, but felt more dangerous than I thought it would. I IMd aMT, then about 90 minutes later I IMd the 4-AcO. A quick but smooth transition to greater psychedelia was expected. But what happened was that the tension of the onset was prolonged for far longer. I kept thinking, "All right, any time now." Then I felt the moment the 4-AcO's psychedelic stage started like a slap--literally a sudden tactile feeling kind of like a very mild brain zap (perhaps it had made it to a new section of the brain it was held back from for some reason , I don't know). The tension was gone.

Within seconds my vision started waving and I got dizzy. I laid down and was inundated with a sensual wave of euphoria. My mouth ran dry, I licked my lips because I expected to taste some kind of sweetness, and just lifting my head made me dizzy. It was intensely pleasurable but I was kind of distracted from getting into it because my physiological reaction was a little alarming. It was definitely the 4-AcO-DMT, as I've had a similar reaction to it alone before at a higher dose, it just wasn't this powerful or flat out physically euphoric.
 
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Within seconds my vision started waving and I got dizzy. I laid down and was inundated with a sensual wave of euphoria. My mouth ran dry, I licked my lips because I expected to taste some kind of sweetness, and just lifting my head made me dizzy. It was intensely pleasurable but I was kind of distracted from getting into it because my physiological reaction was a little alarming. It was definitely the 4-AcO-DMT, as I've had a similar reaction to it alone before at a higher dose, it just wasn't this powerful or flat out physically euphoric.
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I had a pretty similar reaction combining 40 mg of AMT freebase with 2 grams of very potent Cambodians. At the approximate peak, I was floored by the physical euphoria of the trip. It felt as though my blood had thickened and been superheated; almost like I had magma flowing through my veins. It was almost obscenely pleasurable, and, as psoodonym described, more than a little alarming due to the intensity. Also odd was how physically powerful and strong the sensation made me feel, despite the fact that I could barely roll over to reach the glass of water I'd left sitting on my bedside table. Folly of drugfuckedness, methinks. :)
 
So what i have is definately Hcl.
I dropped 8mg into a shot glass of water and it dissolved almost immediately with out barely any stirring.

Today was my first time trying it at this dose orally.

Smoked it comes on much quicker and i suppose leaves the system quicker aswell.
Orally it took about 1 hour to come on but the slightly speedy feeling is almost identical to similar doses of the Hcl smoked; but orally i think its more euphoric at this dose (~10mg) as it feels more stretched and maybe even still coming on (though i doubt it as i took it about 4 hours ago).
 
Also as far as combining with 4 Aco Dmt.

How would you time when to take the 2? Take the psilacetin once the aMT peaks would be my guess.

And should i use a lower dose when combining these then i would if i were to take them individually?

Suppose a regular dose of aMT for me is 50mg orally and psilacetin is 24mg orally.
What doses should i use when combining the two?
 
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Also as far as combining with 4 Aco Dmt.

How would you time when to take the 2? Take the psilacetin once the aMT peaks would be my guess.

And should i use a lower dose when combining these then i would if i were to take them individually?

Suppose a regular dose of aMT for me is 50mg orally and psilacetin is 24mg orally.
What doses should i use when combining the two?
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Yep, at aMT's peak. I tend not to do any two part combos with any less than a moderate plus two dose of each. Each part needs a chance to exhibit its flavor.

That sounds like a fairly strong dose, but I think you'll probably be better than fine since the aMT's inherent positive push keeps me from straying off track to some degree. If you're concerned maybe knock three of four milligrams off the 4-AcO.
 
im excited to try this combination after hearing all the good reports from you and Xork and people who have mixed it with mushrooms.

Also, what dose of IM DPT did you use for the combo?
i have not tried DPT IM'd before but im guessing my sweet spot is around 30-40mg
 
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I usually do 45-50mg IM DPT with aMT, the same dose I would do of DPT alone. 55-60 mg typically puts me over an edge where I can't walk and I'm in ego death territory, so for me the sweet spot seems to be right at that qualitative divide. 30-40 mg sounds like a good first dose for the combo though. With IM you'll be peaked in 10-20 minutes, so you'll know quickly if you want more.

One friend gave me his pair of $250 headphones to thank me for giving him the combo. But don't be like a certain misbehaved bluelighter who took my advice and liked how the combo was going so much he dosed again, doubling the amount of DPT for a total of 100 mg! He had a rough, but very memorable time.

I can understand why he did it though. Once when I did this it was sheer euphoria and sensual grace--the kind that wells in your throat and percolates there, then makes you sob at the fact that such a state of ecstasy is even possible. And no comedown! Just a soul with the soft and wavering glow of hot coals. For months afterward whenever I would near orgasm during sex I would find myself gritting my teeth, just like I did from the aMT during the combo ("are you snacking during our love making, psood0nym!?"). I think that what happened was that the pleasure during the combo was so exquisite that teeth gritting was unconsciously conditioned to occur during sufficiently similar states of sensual pleasure. I should note, however, that my reaction to DPT is slightly uncharacteristic--similar to Jamshyd's ethereal experiences with it.
 
Do you find DPT on its own to be a bit hectic and chaotic, scary at times even, at your dose of 40-50mg IM? Does taking it with AMT lessen the less pleasurable effects?
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50 mg and greater has gotten hectic in the sense of my becoming a trembling mass of ego-bubbling goo, but never at lower doses. Yes, the aMT helps keep it under control. That's what I meant when I said aMT's positive push keeps me from "straying off track."

The only time I ever found DPT scary had nothing directly to do with its intensity. It happened after the peak, and I wrote a trip report on it titled "Turning Back the Second Seconds." An excerpt illustrates the concept behind the glitchy horror:
I'm unable to realize it explicitly at this this time, but I've begun to consistently experience partial echoes of my emotional reactions, thoughts and interior monologue—even the inner impressions of perceptions—approximately two seconds after they occur.

To understand the nature of what I'll be describing more clearly imagine walking into a quiet empty room at 1 pm. A cuckoo clock whirs to life, startling you, and you twist your head to see it. It gives one quick “cuckoo.” Giggling at yourself, you watch as the tiny bird snaps back behind the doors of the clock. At 1 pm. and two seconds the clock's doors have just shut, yet suddenly you're struck with the same sense of surprise you had when you heard the mechanism first start 2 seconds ago. Less than half a second later the sensation of twisting your head to see the clock recurs. You experience vertigo because in truth you haven't physically moved a bit. Still standing there looking at the cuckoo clock’s closed doors you can almost see the bird pop out and almost hear it's chime. It's more than a vivid memory. What you're experiencing is so transporting that you feel at a far distance from the image of the clock that is actually present an arm's length before you now, like you're a step behind yourself and trailing in time. Expressionless, you feel a mild sense of relief followed by a short spike of elation and a blush spread across your face. This is what that laugh you had at yourself a moment ago would have felt like if you hadn't smiled. You're getting the first hints that something's seriously wrong. Now the muffled echo of that 2 second old laughter is mixed with brand new confusion, which will soon mount to dread. You turn to leave at 1 pm. and 4 seconds, yet as you take your first step you feel a part of you is still standing still, looking at the just closed doors of the clock... This is what's just happened to me.
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depends on the Anti-depressant...

SSRI's and Anti-psychotics, could hamper the experience.

Benzos early in the day, you're fine.

MAOI's early in the day, ehh could be potentially harmful, but I dont know enough to say.
 
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