• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Mislabeled Batch of 2C-B-Fly That Has Caused Deaths

Well thats news. Is it pure?

Because like I said I saw several nice reports for BDF on erowid at low blotter doses. Perhaps a .1mg trial would be good if we find its not lethal poison.
 
Coolio said:
Any notion that Chinese products or services are somehow shoddy is just racist cliche.
Click to expand...

That statement is blatantly false, IMO.

Chinese products and services, IME, are consistently low quality. Its not a racist cliche, its just a fact of life-- china makes shitty stuff. I don't think I've ever come in contact with a high-quality product of chinese origin.
 
^ Indeed.

The idea that we can't say a country consistently produces inferior merchandise for fear of being "racist" is BS. Call a spade a spade, truth be told, etc.

For the record the absolute shittiest dirt bikes I have ever seen come from China, the market is getting filled with them because they're so cheap, but compared to the Japanese bikes they might as well be made from biscuits. Off topic, but kind of on topic ;)
 
delsymfan said:
Well thats news. Is it pure?

Because like I said I saw several nice reports for BDF on erowid at low blotter doses. Perhaps a .1mg trial would be good if we find its not lethal poison.
Click to expand...

I just read on the energycontrol site, and they said that they confirmed that the one part is BromoDragonfly, and other is an "impurity of synthesis". Here's the translation I'm reading. It's not a very good one, so it's hard to understand. It's definitely not pure though.

"The other spot on the TLC were impurities of synthesis, but added there was nothing, that my bones. The result of the gas chromatograph is fine. It will pass you by if you're interested, you can still serve in forums like bluelight."
Click to expand...

So that's not a very good translation obviously. We need someone who speaks spanish.
 
Warning!!!

This is NOT pure bromo-dragonfly.

I've seen the GC/MS results side by side with the DEA's baseline for bromo-dragonfly and there are DEFINITELY manufacturing impurities in this stuff!!!

While we don't know what those impurities are, or their quantity, do NOT risk your life trying to find out...

Tomorrow I am meeting with both a neurologist and a clinical toxicologist because they want to run a full battery of tests on me to see how I am doing. They also are planning to put me on a regimen of vasodilating drugs to prevent damage to the limbs and extremities.

This stuff ain't no joke...and I'm still suffering the consequences (from taking a miniscule amount)

Once again, I reiterate, I have 100% good information (GC/MS results) that this is an impure batch of bromo-dragonfly- STAY AWAY, FAR AWAY!!!
 
cegli said:
I just read on the energycontrol site, and they said that they confirmed that the one part is BromoDragonfly, and other is an "impurity of synthesis". Here's the translation I'm reading. It's not a very good one, so it's hard to understand. It's definitely not pure though.



So that's not a very good translation obviously. We need someone who speaks spanish.
Click to expand...

Energy Control is personally working with me, I just saw the results of the analysis two hours ago, it's IMPURE

with what, we still don't know...

if you need any translation help, just let me know...or voltech or moniorojo...I'm sure we're all capable
 
The text on the EC forums says:

La otra mancha de la TLC eran impurezas de síntesis, pero no había nada más añadido, eso segurísimo. En el resultado del cromatógrafo de gases se ve perfectamente. Ya te lo pasaré si te interesa, igual puede servir en foros como el de bluelight.

The other spot on the TLC was synthesis impurities, but there wasn't anything added, that's for sure. That is clearly seen in the gas chromatography results. I'll send it to you if you're interested, it can also be used on forums like bluelight.
 
RigaCrypto said:
The text on the EC forums says:

La otra mancha de la TLC eran impurezas de síntesis, pero no había nada más añadido, eso segurísimo. En el resultado del cromatógrafo de gases se ve perfectamente. Ya te lo pasaré si te interesa, igual puede servir en foros como el de bluelight.

The other spot on the TLC was synthesis impurities, but there wasn't anything added, that's for sure. That is clearly seen in the gas chromatography results. I'll send it to you if you're interested, it can also be used on forums like bluelight.
Click to expand...

Ahhh... that makes much more sense. Thank you for the non-google translation. So we're still where we were with the double spot on the TLC.

It contains:

1. Bromo-DFly
2. ?????????? - Unknown, but judging from peoples reactions to the substance, probably something very bad.

-------

Joanmiro, what lasting effects are you still feeling?
 
I'll probably look into further analysis in order to get to know what's the other stuff. I think we should make an effort to know exactly what's in there, at least for the safety of people who ingested the chem.
 
joanmiro said:
STAY AWAY, FAR AWAY!!!
Click to expand...



I am fighting with myself.. flush it down the toilet or wait for testing results and keep it here.

I promised my girlfriend that i won´t take it again. But what if i know what it is, and treat it with the consciousness it deserves.

On the other hand I don´t believe that it is able to have an enjoyable trip on a stuff that had already killed people.
 
Last edited:
I am fighting with myself.. flush it down the toilet or wait for testing results and keep it here.
Click to expand...

I'm in the same situation...
You could write a report for erowid about your experience and your friends' experiences while you deliberate...:)
 
if you can get the GC/MS data (the GC trace and Mass spectrum for any peaks), post it here and I'll be glad to look at it.
 
Erowid has reports of people dying from presumably pure Bromo-DFly at speculated doses of 5-10mg. It causes severe vasoconstriction and has resulted in amputations in non-lethal overdose cases. A heavy dose is just 800ug. Every dose resulting in a bad reaction in this thread has been beyond heavy. I'm doubtful a ug scale was being used in the <1mg cases either, as they are prohibitively expensive for most users. The degree of error on a milligram scale could make a huge difference with such a potent chemical.

I wouldn't be too surprised to find out the impurity isn't lethal at the levels it's present in the b1 batch either. As previously speculated, there was probably a communication/translation error at the lab. I can't imagine a lab purposely creating a chemical linked to deaths that's more than 10 times more potent than what they represent it as.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death.shtml
 
A heavy dose is just 800ug. Every dose resulting in a bad reaction in this thread has been beyond heavy. I'm doubtful a ug scale was being used in the <1mg cases either, as they are prohibitively expensive for most users. The degree of error on a milligram scale could make a huge difference with such a potent chemical.

I wouldn't be too surprised to find out the impurity isn't lethal at the levels it's present in the b1 batch either. As previously speculated, there was probably a communication/translation error at the lab. I can't imagine a lab purposely creating a chemical linked to deaths that's more than 10 times more potent than what they represent it as.
Click to expand...

My thoughts exactly...Or my hopes exactly...the impurities will most likely be less than 5% of the batch... from 100-800 ug doses how much of the bad chem could there be?!...
 
Last edited:
Yeah that above spanish translation makes sense, I'd just like to confirm.

So they f'ed up the synthesis of the wrong chemical. Way to go...

What I wonder is how can you have properly synthesized SOME of it but not all? Wtf happened?

And as far as those <1mg doses, if you were doing liquid measurement from a known quantity you could easily dose it appropriately below 1mg if you had diluted silution.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top