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(MDMA powder)+(Potent cannabis) Experienced: Ghosts..

soiceybc_kush

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Hey i joined here to post some my some info about my trip i had last saturday.

Mdma Dose : .5 grams then .3 and.3 4hour intervals into the night
Marijuana dose: 1/8th at 9:30 -10 ish pm smoked out of a volcano and then another 1/8th rolled in joints throughout the rest

of the night.


My trip was off of 100% pure mdma, in powder form. It was sold to me in half grams or grams. The powder was very fine and a

bit sparkly, unlike anything i have ever seen before and looked different than cocaine. This was the most crazy and exciting

experience i have ever had, probably because i took a high dosage of a very potent product. I used a half gram at

approximately 10 pm and later through the night used about a .6g more. .1g is about 100mg and .1 is about 1 gel cap full of

mdma so i guess you could say i did almost 8 or 9 gel caps worth spaced about 4 hours apart.

At 10 pm my buddies arrive to my friends house at which we were having a party with around 9-12 people. First things first my

friend which just arrived pulls out his digital volcano vaporizer and an a bit over an eighth of weed is smoked between 7

people.

A quarter way through the session i start feeling the effects of the M hard. First i started feeling the overwhelming

happiness and the rapid, involuntary eye jiggling left to right. So i put my sunglasses on to shield my eyes from the light

in the room and continue to smoke. At this point i am sensing every who is around the volcanos energy.

A buddy across from me cracks a joke about the sunglasses i have just put on saying that i look like a rapper. Everyone kinda

laughed but i sensed jealously in the person across me and from everyone else i sensed good vibes from. As we continue to

smoke my other buddy tom who has also taken the M returns the circle after a brief absence with his sunglasses on and sits

down beside me. After that i sense more jealousy and some embarrassment from the guy who made the comment earlier.

About an hour and a half later 3 people leave and its just me tom and jake plus a few girls. Only me and my boys took the m

but the girls were vibing off the strong aura we were all giving out. my buddy jake tells one of them to sit between us on

the couch. so were watching the movie and i notice she is getting extremely turned on and she is panting quietly. As i see

this i notice that sitting between us is just giving her such a high and she is so horny so i rub up against her a bit.

She is turning me on so but i didn't put my arm around her and i just visualized having sex wit her right there and then as

we watched the movie, and the most interesting thing about this as i look at her panting n moaning as i visualize this every

time i visualize myself fucking her she is sliding up the couch exactly the way she would if i was actually doing it.

I didn't do anything with her even though i could've easily if i put my arm around her it would've been game over but she was

with my buddies younger brother as they are seeing each other a bit i didn't wanna go further with it. Anyways she had to get

up n leave the couch because she couldnt take the energy, getting to horny and neither my buddy or i really gave her what she

wanted.

An hour or so later everyone else leaves and its just me and my boys, im sitting on the lazy boy and they are chillin on the

bigger couch we are watchin aqua teen hunger force in the dark on mute because tom says that if we watch it like that we can

think of what they are saying and everyone will be watching a show. I do this a bit but mostly just zone off at this point im

feeling really good just relaxing and enjoying the feeling..

A bit later around 12- 1 is when the minor hallucinations started. i would be saying something and then i would hallucinate

intensely but only for a quick second or 2 and i would snap out of it. After i do i am kinda embarrassed but i dont think my

buddies noticed. this happened about 6 or 7 times until around 3 am when it sarted getting really insane. I am rolling hard

as fuck but am relaxed as hell going from cold to hot every so often and only at 1 point throught the trip was i intensly

sweating but not for long.


Around 2:30 we decided to hike down about 6 blocks to the 711 to grab some shit, i don't remember really what we bought but

we bought the movie jumper and some munchies. As we leave my buddy gets into a verbal arguement with the store clerk and the

clerk comes outside the store as we have left and says he doesnt want us back.

At this point we are walking up the street and its dark but still there are some street lights. We joke a bit and stuff but

something seems different. Everything seems a little bit more dream like. As i walk up the street looking forward for a split

second or two i see the street full of people and someone about 15 feet away unscrewing the hubcap of a tire on a car. I take

note of this bud i am so high and my mind is so open that i dont say anything but i remember it clearly.

As we are walking up i look over at my buddy jake. His face Is completely different, he looked like a burly knight with long

red hair ( he normally has short hair ) the face i was seeing was about a good third bigger then normal. If i looked through

the face i could see his real face still but it was way easier to see the other ancient looking red one. When we get back to

toms house we chill and star to watch jumper, the movie that we bought from 7-11. As we watch it i quickly lose intrest and

stare around in the room, as i do i notice there are ghosts all throughout the room. And this one weird plant with long stems

and huge leaves keeps trippin me out, i knew there was some sort of ghost inside the tree/ plant and after discussion in the

next day my buddy had noticed the exact same thing.

Jake had told me when we were watching the movie he saw a ghost walk right slowly and steadily right through the middle of

the room past the tv and walked right through the wall. -- The thing about most of the ghosts was they were all misfits, most

of them very skinny but some of them very fat as well.

As the night progressed we went outside and my buddy tom started losing control. he would ask me andmy buddy every 30 seconds

" Who are you? " i thought he was joking but after a while i noticed he was seeing differnt people everytime he would look

at someone. I noticed this as well but not to the extent that he was. I would look at tom and he was becoming increaasingly

more demonic looking in his face. As we are outside late around 4am near his house i see him up close to the street and i say

wats goin on. HE gives me this look like he has never seen me before and he is guna murder me. "What are you doing out here ?

" i could quickly tell he was guna hit me so i took my snorkel hood off and i said " Tom its Me!"

Soon after that we all went to sleep and discussed what had happened. WE all had seen ghosts at one point or another, we all

had seen the masks on eachothers faces. IN my opinion on this, it was a spirit or ghost clinging on to one of us so we would

see that when we looked at them. IM not to sure if this is right or not but either way it was supernatural. I have done

shrooms before and i have never expereienced anything like this before. when the mdma started hitting me my eyes were vibrating super hard left to right and i think this opened my vision up to the next level kind of like the 6th sense and the marijuana helped too.

Anyways if anyone actually reads this whole trip and can comment on it be sure to do, and if you had a similar experience then post it and what you thought or if you can relate.
Or if you understand anything about the supernatural and can tell me what you think was happening would be great as well.
 
idk man. mdma doesnt rly make u "trip" sure its a trip as in it alters your mood for a certain time and u might get some trails and like the colors but its not like lsd where u can tell ppls vibes and shit
 
idk man. mdma doesnt rly make u "trip" sure its a trip as in it alters your mood for a certain time and u might get some trails and like the colors but its not like lsd where u can tell ppls vibes and shit

actually yes it is, it is classified as a hallucinogenic at high doses. anyone with a higher iq in these boards?

http://www.counselingseattle.com/drugs/hallucinogens.htm

http://www.nida.nih.gov/InfoFacts/ecstasy.html

"MDMA (3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug that is chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. MDMA produces feelings of increased energy euphoria, emotional warmth, and distortions in time perception and tactile experiences."
 
i know what it is. its considered a mild hallucinogen....but no matter how much u take ur never gonna trip like on lsd or other hallucinogenics. like i said its kinda like a trip cuz it alters your mood and perception a little by making u love everything lol and u might see some trails thats it.

u make it sound like your seeing all these visuals and getting all these vibes and auras from ppl lol. either ur retarded or ur pills had 2cx in em
 
Hey i joined here to post some my some info about my trip i had last saturday.

Mdma Dose : .5 grams then .3 and.3 4hour intervals into the night
Marijuana dose: 1/8th at 9:30 -10 ish pm smoked out of a volcano and then another 1/8th rolled in joints throughout the rest

of the night.


My trip was off of 100% pure mdma, in powder form. It was sold to me in half grams or grams. The powder was very fine and a

bit sparkly, unlike anything i have ever seen before and looked different than cocaine. This was the most crazy and exciting

experience i have ever had, probably because i took a high dosage of a very potent product. I used a half gram at

approximately 10 pm and later through the night used about a .6g more. .1g is about 100mg and .1 is about 1 gel cap full of

mdma so i guess you could say i did almost 8 or 9 gel caps worth spaced about 4 hours apart.

At 10 pm my buddies arrive to my friends house at which we were having a party with around 9-12 people. First things first my

friend which just arrived pulls out his digital volcano vaporizer and an a bit over an eighth of weed is smoked between 7

people.

A quarter way through the session i start feeling the effects of the M hard. First i started feeling the overwhelming

happiness and the rapid, involuntary eye jiggling left to right. So i put my sunglasses on to shield my eyes from the light

in the room and continue to smoke. At this point i am sensing every who is around the volcanos energy.

A buddy across from me cracks a joke about the sunglasses i have just put on saying that i look like a rapper. Everyone kinda

laughed but i sensed jealously in the person across me and from everyone else i sensed good vibes from. As we continue to

smoke my other buddy tom who has also taken the M returns the circle after a brief absence with his sunglasses on and sits

down beside me. After that i sense more jealousy and some embarrassment from the guy who made the comment earlier.

About an hour and a half later 3 people leave and its just me tom and jake plus a few girls. Only me and my boys took the m

but the girls were vibing off the strong aura we were all giving out. my buddy jake tells one of them to sit between us on

the couch. so were watching the movie and i notice she is getting extremely turned on and she is panting quietly. As i see

this i notice that sitting between us is just giving her such a high and she is so horny so i rub up against her a bit.

She is turning me on so but i didn't put my arm around her and i just visualized having sex wit her right there and then as

we watched the movie, and the most interesting thing about this as i look at her panting n moaning as i visualize this every

time i visualize myself fucking her she is sliding up the couch exactly the way she would if i was actually doing it.

I didn't do anything with her even though i could've easily if i put my arm around her it would've been game over but she was

with my buddies younger brother as they are seeing each other a bit i didn't wanna go further with it. Anyways she had to get

up n leave the couch because she couldnt take the energy, getting to horny and neither my buddy or i really gave her what she

wanted.

An hour or so later everyone else leaves and its just me and my boys, im sitting on the lazy boy and they are chillin on the

bigger couch we are watchin aqua teen hunger force in the dark on mute because tom says that if we watch it like that we can

think of what they are saying and everyone will be watching a show. I do this a bit but mostly just zone off at this point im

feeling really good just relaxing and enjoying the feeling..

A bit later around 12- 1 is when the minor hallucinations started. i would be saying something and then i would hallucinate

intensely but only for a quick second or 2 and i would snap out of it. After i do i am kinda embarrassed but i dont think my

buddies noticed. this happened about 6 or 7 times until around 3 am when it sarted getting really insane. I am rolling hard

as fuck but am relaxed as hell going from cold to hot every so often and only at 1 point throught the trip was i intensly

sweating but not for long.


Around 2:30 we decided to hike down about 6 blocks to the 711 to grab some shit, i don't remember really what we bought but

we bought the movie jumper and some munchies. As we leave my buddy gets into a verbal arguement with the store clerk and the

clerk comes outside the store as we have left and says he doesnt want us back.

At this point we are walking up the street and its dark but still there are some street lights. We joke a bit and stuff but

something seems different. Everything seems a little bit more dream like. As i walk up the street looking forward for a split

second or two i see the street full of people and someone about 15 feet away unscrewing the hubcap of a tire on a car. I take

note of this bud i am so high and my mind is so open that i dont say anything but i remember it clearly.

As we are walking up i look over at my buddy jake. His face Is completely different, he looked like a burly knight with long

red hair ( he normally has short hair ) the face i was seeing was about a good third bigger then normal. If i looked through

the face i could see his real face still but it was way easier to see the other ancient looking red one. When we get back to

toms house we chill and star to watch jumper, the movie that we bought from 7-11. As we watch it i quickly lose intrest and

stare around in the room, as i do i notice there are ghosts all throughout the room. And this one weird plant with long stems

and huge leaves keeps trippin me out, i knew there was some sort of ghost inside the tree/ plant and after discussion in the

next day my buddy had noticed the exact same thing.

Jake had told me when we were watching the movie he saw a ghost walk right slowly and steadily right through the middle of

the room past the tv and walked right through the wall. -- The thing about most of the ghosts was they were all misfits, most

of them very skinny but some of them very fat as well.

As the night progressed we went outside and my buddy tom started losing control. he would ask me andmy buddy every 30 seconds

" Who are you? " i thought he was joking but after a while i noticed he was seeing differnt people everytime he would look

at someone. I noticed this as well but not to the extent that he was. I would look at tom and he was becoming increaasingly

more demonic looking in his face. As we are outside late around 4am near his house i see him up close to the street and i say

wats goin on. HE gives me this look like he has never seen me before and he is guna murder me. "What are you doing out here ?

" i could quickly tell he was guna hit me so i took my snorkel hood off and i said " Tom its Me!"

Soon after that we all went to sleep and discussed what had happened. WE all had seen ghosts at one point or another, we all

had seen the masks on eachothers faces. IN my opinion on this, it was a spirit or ghost clinging on to one of us so we would

see that when we looked at them. IM not to sure if this is right or not but either way it was supernatural. I have done

shrooms before and i have never expereienced anything like this before. when the mdma started hitting me my eyes were vibrating super hard left to right and i think this opened my vision up to the next level kind of like the 6th sense and the marijuana helped too.

Anyways if anyone actually reads this whole trip and can comment on it be sure to do, and if you had a similar experience then post it and what you thought or if you can relate.
Or if you understand anything about the supernatural and can tell me what you think was happening would be great as well.

I actually found this a fascinating report. I believe it's quite possible that taking mdma and marijuana (especially in combination) can open the mind up to different levels and vibrations, some which can be a little nasty, as you all experienced. It's possible that your vulnerable states might have drawn demons towards you, though I realise most people will pooh-pooh the idea. I'm open-minded.

I experience a more subtle effect after taking mdma and similar bk-ketones that have an empatheogenic effect. I find that they open me up to more synchrynicity, both positive and negative. I'll find I'll have a prize and a price; something unusually good will happen and likewise, something awful. It seems to come in about equal measure. I've concluded that the substances make me spiritually vulnerable and consequently, I draw both good and evil forces towards me though slightly more malevolent forces. It's subtle but I've seen a consistency over the years with my experience so I'm convinced it's more than mere coicidence.

Once after eating a lot of hash, I saw my face morphing into several different personas, almost as though I might ahve been seeing what I might have looked like in a past incarnation or, like you were suggesting, perhaps I was drawing various spirits (or even demons) towards me. I'll never know though but it was quite bizarre and fascinating all the same!
 
First off, you took a pretty heroic dose for your first time. Usual doses of MDMA are in the 100mg-125mg range, with perhaps a booster of 60-100mg later on. I'm sure you know this, but you might consider being more prudent with your dosage so you don't develop tolerance unnecessarily.

"Hallucinogen" is a problematic term; even though it's been applied to psychedelics, it only properly applies to deliriants, which produce authentic-looking phenomena in the absence of stimulation (which is the proper definition of a hallucination). Psychedelics, on the other hand, simply distort the perception of existing stimulation; they don't produce fake stimulation directly. MDMA isn't even properly classified as a psychedelic, since it has little direct affinity for the 5-ht2a receptor (the receptor by which most other psychedelics exert their effect). Regardless, the government and popular media like to classify it as a psychedelic hallucinogen because it sounds sensationalistic and contributes to its status as a schedule I drug in the US. :\

That said, there are plenty of threads on Bluelight about people experiencing delirious hallucinations on MDMA (or, more frequently, MDA). These hallucinations usually start late in the night, which leads me to believe that they're caused by fatigue. In your case, I'm guessing that it was the weed more than the MDMA that produced your extremely delirious state; the MDMA probably potentiated greatly, though.

Just my two cents. Also, this post would probably have been better placed in trip reports, but no harm done. :) Hopefully a kind moderator will move it.
 
First off, you took a pretty heroic dose for your first time. Usual doses of MDMA are in the 100mg-125mg range, with perhaps a booster of 60-100mg later on. I'm sure you know this, but you might consider being more prudent with your dosage so you don't develop tolerance unnecessarily.

"Hallucinogen" is a problematic term; even though it's been applied to psychedelics, it only properly applies to deliriants, which produce authentic-looking phenomena in the absence of stimulation (which is the proper definition of a hallucination). Psychedelics, on the other hand, simply distort the perception of existing stimulation; they don't produce fake stimulation directly. MDMA isn't even properly classified as a psychedelic, since it has little direct affinity for the 5-ht2a receptor (the receptor by which most other psychedelics exert their effect). Regardless, the government and popular media like to classify it as a psychedelic hallucinogen because it sounds sensationalistic and contributes to its status as a schedule I drug in the US. :\

That said, there are plenty of threads on Bluelight about people experiencing delirious hallucinations on MDMA (or, more frequently, MDA). These hallucinations usually start late in the night, which leads me to believe that they're caused by fatigue. In your case, I'm guessing that it was the weed more than the MDMA that produced your extremely delirious state; the MDMA probably potentiated greatly, though.

Just my two cents. Also, this post would probably have been better placed in trip reports, but no harm done. :) Hopefully a kind moderator will move it.

you are very insightful rgb. i learn something new every time u post lol.

but thats what i was trying to say to him that its only considered a hallucinogen but doesnt rly follow the others. and im thinking the pills he took might have been either mda or had some 2cx in it. or like u said he just had a trippy affect from the weed and being tired.
 
First of all, "psychedelics" don't always involve hallucinations, which is why I consider MDMA psychedelic; DiPT is another example. Honestly I don't think I can weigh in on this was indeed MDMA, as I've never done such a high dose (assuming his product was indeed as close as possible to 100% pure), but I wouldn't rule it out. Normally I also vote MDA when I hear of hallucinations from pills, but the dose makes MDMA a little more believable.

I don't usually enjoy trip reports that start out with "100% pure dude" but I have to say if this wasn't at least a decent read, I wouldn't have finished it. Stick around.
 
I have a hard time picturing you taking 500mg of "100% pure MDMA" for your first ever dose.

If so, congrats on coming out of that unscathed.

'Twas a decent report.
 
First of all, "psychedelics" don't always involve hallucinations, which is why I consider MDMA psychedelic; DiPT is another example. Honestly I don't think I can weigh in on this was indeed MDMA, as I've never done such a high dose (assuming his product was indeed as close as possible to 100% pure), but I wouldn't rule it out. Normally I also vote MDA when I hear of hallucinations from pills, but the dose makes MDMA a little more believable.

I don't usually enjoy trip reports that start out with "100% pure dude" but I have to say if this wasn't at least a decent read, I wouldn't have finished it. Stick around.
I have a hard time picturing you taking 500mg of "100% pure MDMA" for your first ever dose.

If so, congrats on coming out of that unscathed.

'Twas a decent report.


First of all this was not my first pure mdma trip, i did 1 pure mdma cap the first time i ever used which was about 4 years ago, since then i have probably done ecstasy or mdma about 10-15 times.

And yes that night i did a lot of it, and i did come out unscathed.. i actually felt fine the next day, i still had a lingering rolling feeling, but nothing bad. i blazed a lot the next day and i am feeling fine 5 days since the trip.

I would also like to say that many of the spiritual / demonic hallucinations started at 3 am, which some say is the devils hour, or from 2 am to 4 am which is the hours of the ghosts.


I might ahve been seeing what I might have looked like in a past incarnation or, like you were suggesting, perhaps I was drawing various spirits (or even demons) towards me. I'll never know though but it was quite bizarre and fascinating all the same!

^^^ this is another thought i had, maybe when i was looking at my friend and seeing a completely different person, that maybe this ancient looking person was maybe a incarnate of him from hundreds or thousands of years
ago.


Overall i liked it but next time i do it i will not smoke weed with it and will do a way smaller amount, i like the way you can see and feel energy but this stuff was really intense. i had never been so open minded in my life. I mean i was so open minded that i knew there was ghosts in the room, i could see them, and i was chill with it.

If anyone has any other questions about my trip or would like me to clarify anything jus let me know.
 
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also one more thing i would like to add is that apparently when mdma is consumed in large doses the liver converts some of it to mda..
 
Pretty crazy experience you describe. Don't think you need to invoke any explanations related to supernatural happenings though. A lot of people experience hallucinations on MDMA, particularly related to faces. Many people experience seeing familiar faces on strangers, or strange faces on their friends, or even hallucinations such as seeing everybody in the room wearing glasses or spectacles. As for the ghostly figures you saw, the high dose you took in combination with weed would have exaggerated the usual trails that may be experienced on MDMA. In addition to this, it was late at night so fatigue could be a factor. I assume you were watching the movie in a dark room. The shadows bouncing and flickering off the walls in combination with the time distortion effects of MDMA and weed could bring about some pretty trippy hallucinations IMO.

Never mind the witching hour or ancient reincarnations - you simply took a shitload of MDMA, smoked some good weed and tripped the hell out =D
 
also one more thing i would like to add is that apparently when mdma is consumed in large doses the liver converts some of it to mda..

Mda is a direct metabolite of mdma, but the dose has nothing to do with it. Mdma is metabolised in the same way whether you take a little or a lot.
By the way, how do you know your mdma was 100% pure? I have a hard time believing that.
 
Wow! That is a ridiculously huge dose of MDMA for one roll, I'm surprised you didn't experience any negative effects from this. also, it seems a bit wasteful to me as 1,100mg MDMA is enough for 9 doses of 120mg.

Sounds like it made you somewhat delirious though.

be safe and have fun.
 
And I also would like to concur that hallucinations are possible on MDMA alone. It is qualitatively different than LSD or other 5-HT2a agonists though.

Hallucinations or not, I would definitely consider MDMA a psychedelic drug. I say this because it certainly has the capacity to induce life changing realizations while under the influence, and it has an insightful, emotional and introspective edge that "plain" stimulants lack. While some people may just use it to feel good and party, that doesn't mean it lacks the potential to be something more.
 
Eh. Most of the powdered MDMA people ingesting in Canada who've been in contact with me has been 20-60% pure. A long time ago a friend got a gram of stuff that was kind of beige that was reasonably pure. A lot of it was garbage, though. Haven't done MDMA in years so I don't know what the scene is like. Secondly, there's no such thing as 100% MDMA. No chemical is ever 100% pure, so I'm guessing you haven't verified the purity of your product at all.

I had the fortunate experience of getting some 99% racemic MDMA a very long time ago. I tried 120mg of the stuff and I was floored. I couldn't imagine what a half gram would do, I'd be puking everywhere most likely. Over a gram in an hour would probably have me convulsing on the floor.
 
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I can understand that it may have not been 100% put it was definitely 90% +


Also about the re-incarnation theory, and the supernatural. I do believe our third eyes were very open that night and i still do believe that a lot of this stuff was not just hallucinations but spiritual encounters.

I talked to a few buddies about my experience and i told him about the changing faces..

So as i said in the trip report i looked at one of my buddies with short hair and he looked like someone from the medieval ages somewhat of a burly knight.

So i was talking to my buddy and he also had an experience similar to mine a few years back. He told me that him and his buddies and his girlfriend were on some good ecstasy and he said they all saw about 10 shadow figures in his back alley and they were to scared to go outside to blaze, so they blazed inside. he also said that when he looked at his girlfriend, who was of asian descent --- he told me that she looked like a samurai....... So this leads me to believe that maybe i was looking at my buddy and i was seeing him in a past life.

I know there is more to this then just being high and tripping out.
 
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