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Mr Sosa

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can somebody summarise the differences and if one didnt have a testing kit how they would be able to tell?

thanks (n00b :))
 
I could but im actually off my face right now so this is my 2 cents and yes enjoy :S! :D
 
^ hahahaha

But BZP is just shadey as hell, with a 3 year omedown, whereas MDMA is an amazing feeling, followed by a gentle decline into that sad sad state :(
 
I get a great buzz with both but I find MDMA just takes you to that other level. With BZP there are similar effects (euphoria, body tingling, music sounds better) but you don't get that deep rolling experience like you are riding a wave. I've never hallucinated on BZP either and if you are at a club, the visuals on MDMA are much more intense and brighter (eyes wiggles). There is still some teeth grinding with BZP but not as bad and comedown on BZP is easier on the body and mind. You can actually sleep quite well and feel ok the next day.
 
MissJenn said:
I get a great buzz with both but I find MDMA just takes you to that other level. With BZP there are similar effects (euphoria, body tingling, music sounds better) but you don't get that deep rolling experience like you are riding a wave. I've never hallucinated on BZP either and if you are at a club, the visuals on MDMA are much more intense and brighter (eyes wiggles). There is still some teeth grinding with BZP but not as bad and comedown on BZP is easier on the body and mind. You can actually sleep quite well and feel ok the next day.
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BZP has a much shittier comedown in my experience.
 
BZP is great at the start...body euphoria similar to amp's with some music enhancement, but it quickly turns on you. At about the 4 hour mark it turns me into a speedy mess with racing thoughts as well as a racing heart. It never lets you rest until a solid 12-14hours later. Can be fun, but nothing like MDMA. BZP isn't magic like MDMA.
 
im on methadone/welbutrin and last night i took 3 capsules of Mdma, dose in each ranging from 150-230mg's, this was spread out from 4pm-nighttime thought of course, And it worked pretty well, the mehtadone definately played a factor in it not being as intense as previous exp's with mdma.
 
theotherside26 said:
BZP is great at the start...body euphoria similar to amp's with some music enhancement, but it quickly turns on you. At about the 4 hour mark it turns me into a speedy mess with racing thoughts as well as a racing heart. It never lets you rest until a solid 12-14hours later. Can be fun, but nothing like MDMA. BZP isn't magic like MDMA.
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This. BZP is one of the better piperazines in terms of the initial rush. But like the others, once you hit the 8 hour mark or so, you'll wish you had never done it in the first place. And you'll continue with that sentiment until 24 hours later when you're seeing imaginary bats and yet your mind still wants to try and solve problems in quantum physics...
 
've done pill containing BZP b4, and def agree 1 time might have had a come down, 2nd time not at all other than expected tiredness from going crazy till 4:00am(then that was late lol). The first time, I crashed hard over the following 2days, but I also had sunstroke, and major sunburns and grass burns which I seemingly appropriately attributed that to. As for the roll which they all seem to refer to disparagingly, I had quite the time, although I def had other stuff in the pill as well such as L-Arginine, guarana and cayenne and ginger, etc. Also, maybe the form of processing it/purity?. At any rate, some say that meth is way better. I'd rather not touch it... I definitely noticed a difference than MDMA, however I'd say it was in some senses comparable, though perhaps, more needed.

I def had a longer high with the 2 pills I took, about 10 hours. I'm sure of the contents of the pill btw. It definitely didn't fade as I came out of school and went to Adult Ed class later in the day, and came home... Lol, interesting conversations with my teacher;p

I can say def hydrate, and eat before and during. And Tulsi tea:) I would especially like to experiment with using 5HTP in conjunction.
 
I don't think the BZP comedown is that bad. But I took a pill of BZP knowing it was BZP. Felt a nice, mellow MDMA-lite type of high. Didn't have a particularly bad comedown, I was able to go to sleep about 6-7 hours.

I don't remember if this applies to BZP as well, but pipes usually have a nasty citrusy taste. You can break open a pill and test a small bit inside, if it has that nasty citrus type taste, then it's pipes for sure, no MDMA.
 
Mdma way better thand BZP for me - I recover better on MDMA have a better time /feeling /euphoric etc - BZP it's a sharp up not much buzz and the come down and recovery is just aweful as well as loss of appetite and generally feeling like crap - so in my experience MDMA is way better!!
 
hello think this is my 1st post here...anyway bzp is awful again maybe one of the most unpleasent drug experiances iv had.
had done maybe 4g's of decent coke with friends then had a bomb of bzp thinkin it was mdma (believe it to have been meopp?)
started mild halucinations spirals and pulsing textures quick enough, then started geting quite anxious as to why i was tripin on coke and mdma as i wouldnt normally trip but at the same time i wouldnt normally get anxious in the 1st place!! eventualy had to leave the house to get some air then just generally felt uncomfortable all day and was unable to sleep, just lay on the sofa spaced out. would say the whole affair lasted about 10/14 hours.
never again!

''BZP is great at the start...body euphoria similar to amp's with some music enhancement, but it quickly turns on you. At about the 4 hour mark it turns me into a speedy mess with racing thoughts as well as a racing heart. It never lets you rest until a solid 12-14hours later. Can be fun, but nothing like MDMA. BZP isn't magic like MDMA.''

^--- pretty much sums it up perfectly !
 
BZP is a feeling of stimulation, but it can't compare to MDMA. If you get a restless, energetic feeling then can't sleep until the following afternoon, it's BZP. Dodgy pills usually have other piperazines to make them seem more like MDMA, so it might be trippy (in a horrible way) as well. If you experience the most incredible sensations of your inhibitions and cynicism melting away, blissful euphoria, powerful rushes through your body, pure love and empathy for all mankind, it's MDMA. Pure MDMA will last 6 hours at most, at which point you'll be drained. Pills with amphetamine in them will last longer, but nothing like the long grinding hours of slowly losing the plot that pipes give you.
 
RedLeader said:
This. BZP is one of the better piperazines in terms of the initial rush. But like the others, once you hit the 8 hour mark or so, you'll wish you had never done it in the first place. And you'll continue with that sentiment until 24 hours later when you're seeing imaginary bats and yet your mind still wants to try and solve problems in quantum physics...
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^^^^lol that is sum funny shit. truth too.
 
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