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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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all is not lost, so long as you don't toss the filter. just evap the filter, scrape it, and do a recrystallization

you want to decant the naptha before it has a chance to warm up enough to dissolve your crystals. save it though as you can reuse it to be sure you get whatever is left that didn't precipitate out of solution

i'm sure this will get merged with the big and dandy. lots of good advice in that thread worth checking out too.

good luck.
 
how to scrape a stain of nothing ???? its gone i tell ya .. nothing left .. im in shock .. im thinking about evap the naptha down to almost nothing then freezing .. will this help me ? do i need to freeze at all.. do i need to dry in the fridge to keep the crystals cold ? thanks for any help ,... im just lost
 
the tek calls for one pound

everything went fine up till the freeze filter stage ?
anyone have any ideas to help me ?
should i skip the freeze and just evap on a dish?

im ready to smoke that filter... ha ha

okay my turn to look stupid here ..... i just blew all my spice ... please help me not do that again....the tech worked fine with mhrb and got to the freeze precp for 3 days.. had lots of spice in the naptha went to filter and saw some nice white/light yellow spice in the filter.. went to dry.. poof .. gone .. left with a yellow stain.. no crystals no gunk no nothing but a yellow stain... .. what can i do next time different.. should i evap down the naptha before freezing .. should i not dry outside ? can you dry in the fridge as not to melt the dmt.. please save me from myself i know not what i do ?
 
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i just decant the naptha and let my jar completely dry out then scrape the crystals.

if you tried drying your filter and got nothing then perhaps the filter was porous enough to let the dmt stay in solution. just try sticking the naptha solution back in the freezer and starting the precip over again
 
so for next time ....??? should i let the naptha evap down before freezing and try that? and for drying should that be done in the fridge or room temp ? it seems that the spice melted after i filtered it.. as it was a nice amount then turned to nothing in a matter of minutes ..

someone on another site suggested i place the stained filter in a jar with a little fresh naptha and then try to recover by soaking ..removing filter and freezing again.. hope this works but this batch is all but gone..im really hoping for some insight about what to do next time.. as i have another pound in the crockpot as i type this ... so for future info.. whats the best way to freeze ? after evaporating some naptha off then freeze.. or straight to freeze then filter..or just let the whole thing evap in the dish ? im new and prolly driving some of you nutts with my inexpeirence but im really trying to learn here myself .. i have no guide other than those who respond to my ramblings ....and i thank each of you for doing so in advance...
 
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What probably happened is that while you filtered it cold, it stayed wet with solvent. At first it was too cold for the DMT to dissolve in it, but apparently it heated up faster than the solvent could evaporate. The result is that when it became warm enough it dissolved in the naphtha and went into the filter.

You can save the DMT by washing the filter with naphtha, it will dissolve in it and you can start over by freeze precipitating again in the right volume of solvent (naphtha).
The ammonia wash is normally not such a good idea unless you didn't do a very good job in the first place with your acid/base steps. I would skip it personally.

Next time you try to filter wet crystals you might want to make sure they're not soaking wet of solvent, right after filtering remove all the crystals from the filter into a proper container. Actually you should do everything at a really fast rate as soon as the DMT leaves the freezer, do not let it warm up before you're done. If you still get solvent in with your DMT and it turns into a puddle of goo or something, first let all of the solvent evaporate from the DMT while it is in an open container, then close it and throw it in the freezer, the cold should make it more crystalline again. If you use a container with a big volume you might want to consider a dessicant to prevent condensation.

This is actually good to emphasize so it will be merged indeed.

Also, if a tek calls for a pound you can just scale it down 8)
simple calculation, if you scale down by a half divide every weight or volume by two.

Kindly take it easy with the rapidfire posting ;)
 
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man i wanna extract some out of my head. like dmt....its in there but i cant get to it u kno? its trippin me out. i herd tho that if u stay up for a real long time itl start to reallease. i havent barley slept any theses past couple days but idk. i was on moning glory last night too and ive been trippin today. so mabey if im lucky ill start trippin soon
 
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man i wanna extract some out of my head. like dmt....its in there but i cant get to it u kno? its trippin me out. i herd tho that if u stay up for a real long time itl start to reallease. i havent barley slept any theses past couple days but idk. i was on moning glory last night too and ive been trippin today. so mabey if im lucky ill start trippin soon
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DMT in the body is in trace amounts
 
Can anyone help me...?

After doing a STB with Xylene, i was left with a very thick yellow substance which would not evap down. I was planning on doing a De-fat, but cant find any guides for defatting..they are all complete.

What should i do to defat? Ive got yellow gunk extracted with xylene, and some with naptha, which i want to try to clean to see if there is any dmt..
 
yea but i herd that u can make it realese if u have sleep deprivation thats y u start to see shit. i think im not sure. but i also herd thats whats responsible for neardeath experiences were u see the light and whatnot.(sory to anyone whos religious)
 
^i think its funny how this is now seen as "truth" in the psychedelic communities. this is actually a theory proposed by rick strassman in his book "the spirit molecule." great book though :)
 
well if i try it ill make a thread or post it r sumthin. but right now i need my sleep. im already deprived. and i dont wanna stay up 56 hours if if it wont release anything
 
Just started my first A/B. I love this, first batch of naphta is still in the freezer but I'm getting really pure white crystal. I'll do nothing but A/B:s from now on.
 
Have you done STB previously? I see both methods recommended by different people, is there any reason you prefer A/B over STB? As I understand it, STB will work fine on shredded rootbark, and I seem to hear that the de-fat in A/B isn't really necessary. Your thoughts?
 
My thoughts, A/B rocks. You need less base, and you can use weaker bases such as sodium carbonate, it saves you from the trouble of acquiring lye. Also it's easier to get a very clean product. You can get a cheap solvent for the defat - the defat procedure really helps in getting clean white DMT crystal. They say mimosa bark doesn't contain much fat, but I've noticed this to vary between batches.

With STB I was always getting yellow stained spice. I was also losing lots of solvent, as the bark would soak some of it up each pull.

A/B is easy. Here's my procedure:

Take 100g of shredded bark and put it in a pot. Add 10g of citric acid monohydrate. Add 1-1.5 liters of boiling water. Stir a bit with a spoon and cover the pot. Let it sit overnight.

Then strain the solution through a strainer (save the bark, you may still get something out of it later) - if you want you can even filter it through a coffee filter, although this will take time and you will probably need to use several coffee filters as they get saturated with the bark goo. Pour the strained solution into jar(s). Leave room for solvent in the jar(s). Eg. for a 1 liter jar, leave 0.1-0.2 l for the solvent.

Now the defat. I like to use cheap heavy-aliphatic naphta for the defat. Pour the solvent in the jar, close it, then shake it a bit. Let it sit until the layers separate. If you get emulsion, add some salt and wait until the emulsion dissipates. Then pull the naphta and discard it.

Now the basifying. I used 50g of NaOH, for a 1.5 liter jar, but less will very probably do. If you have a way to measure pH, just add base until you get to pH 12. Stir until the solution turns black. Then add your solvent of choice: I use light aliphatic naphta for this step. Mainly because it precipitates well in the freezer. Heptane would also work. Close the jar, shake a bit, wait until layers separate, pull the naphta and freeze precipitate. Repeat pulls until you get no more DMT.
 
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