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The Big & Dandy First-Time-Tripper Thread

Is it cool to listen to heavy music (death metal etc.) on LSD/2ce or will it make me have a bad trip?

Here's a couple songs I really wanted to experience while tripping but they both have a "dark" quality to them (especially the second one) so I'm a little worried about it. Sorry about the poor quality, it's youtube. I really enjoy them while sober... but will it scare the shit out of me if I'm tripping?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TPLTwLzjtc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnV62xxrL_A

You don't have to listen to the whole song, it's kind of an acquired taste ;)

Was also thinking of listening to this song (NOT metal):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_MJAOyOeU

I've heard a ton of people recommending jam bands like Phish and Pink Floyd and stuff while tripping but I'm really not all that into that kind of music (music that's heavily improvised I'm usually not a fan of) when sober so would I really enjoy it while tripping or should I just stick to stuff I like?

Which of these kinds of music are more likely to induce a ++++ life changing experience? Euphoric type stuff (like Sigur Ros, my third posted song) or weird ass crazy metal shit (like my second)?
 
I was going to add another thread to that reading list of yours but couldn't find it so you are safe for now, Nox :D

I know of at least one ex-PD mod that is very fond of combining psyches with "dark" metal music and would heartily recommend the combo but will let him chime in if he chooses ;)

For me it's a very subjective thing. I tend to find more electronic-type music (often ambientish or quite dark minimalesque techno) does the trick for me most often. Then again, a euphoric, funky, reggae/techno/dub-type album brought me to tears of transcendent ecstasy the other night and similar things have happened with "dark" metal/rock stuff so you never know - totally mood/individual dependent, I'd say :)

I'd usually go for Sigur Ros from the tunes you listed myself. That's just me though :)
 
Meh I'll probably stick with Sigur Ros for this first trip.... seems safer. Though they do have their own depressing edge on some of their songs.

Might try out some Justice too... or some trance or something.
 
I find that if you are comfortable with a type of music sober, tripping will just intensify those feelings with perhaps feelings of awe and inspiration attached.

Go with what feels right.. and if you don't like the vibe.. change it. Realize you control the music... not the other way around. :)
 
I'd say it's best to just go with whatever feels right at the time, Nox. I rarely have the same type of music playing at the end of a trip that I started off listening too :)

This makes me a lil moist but it's very dose/situation/substance related... Just keep playing different tracks/albums/soundscapes till it feels gooood would be my advice :)

EDIT: Isotropic put it more succinctly than I :D
 
I usually find that it is better to stick with music that is a little lighter on the eyes, nothing to heavy no dark. However, this is coming from someone who's heaviest music is tool or nine inch nails.

Try out something you are comfortable with or whatever music you are in the mood for. I never plan music ahead of time, I always just have at least 30 gigs of music on me that I can choose from, so what ever mood I'm in or what the environment seems to encompass, I choose. For me it usually go between downtempo, idm, psybient, breakcore, and ambient.

Tool has worked out pretty well for me. Third eye blew my mind. I also went to a tool concert one 2c-e, which was badass.

Now that i think about it, I do listen to some heavy music while tripping, breakcore. I'd say test the waters.
 
Another question,

How does Ayahuasca compare to 2c-e and LSD for first time tripping or just in general?

I've found some sites that sell the ingredients (the two plants) you need to make Ayahuasca.

Is it as simple as boiling them in water and then you just drink it?

Hard to do?

thanks
 
1st time acid trip, advice please!

Im contemplating having a blotter at creamfields next weekend, but later on in the evening. is this a bad or a good idea seeing as i have never done it before? Im pretty head strong and have done ketamine on numerous occasions in large doses.

Im going back to a house afterwards circa 4am, is it best saved for the comedown?

I'll be mixing with mdma, alcohol, coke and ket.

(upon reading that last sentence im having a slight look at myself.. lol)
 
Personally i wouldn't try LSD for the first time at a festival just because if something were to go wrong i wouldn't want tons of people around me to possibly make the situation worse

I also wouldn't take a substance for the first time in combination with a lot of other substances.

You want to get use to each substance before you decide to mix them as you dont want something to go wrong because the combo just wasnt right.

As for taking the dose after the comedown of your MDMA, i dont think that would be a wise idea. When taking LSD you want to have a positive outlook and be in good spirits. On the comedown of MDMA you're just the opposite (unless you're superman). Going into a trip feeling exhausted and worn down from MDMA (or any drug for that matter) wouldnt lead to the best trip.

I'd try LSD a few times before going to the festival or mixing it, however this is just ones opinion.

To each their own
 
Yeah to me LSD isn't a festival type drug. Maybe take all your other chem's at the festival and way latter on take your dose in a private space where you can feel free to lay down and close your eyes.
 
It's really best not to mix with anything on your first trip, believe me you will have enough to experience at first - there is no need for combinations until you become pretty familiar with tripping.
Also, doing it at a party/festival your first time is also a bad idea. Tripping means that everything gets really intensified and at such a venue that is plain asking for sensory overload. Even with lots of tripping experience it can be heavy, really.

Unfortunately doing it at 4 A.M. after partying is also not the best of times, probably you will already have ingested drugs and you might be a bit tired and generally not focussed I imagine.

You would be much better off doing it in a laid-back setting like at home laying in the sun, walking around a little in nature - and try not to have loads of friends around you that disturb your peace. A few friends are nice to have, especially if they also trip, but many of them can be hectic and it's not cool to have to think about what they're up to all the time.

Look at it like this: you can always go to parties and stuff if you become familiar with what tripping is all about but first learn that before you put yourself in crowded situations you can't easily get out of. That is asking for conflict.
 
I actually love LSD at festivals, it lasts long and keeps you partying which is what I want at a festival. I would try the L by itself however, and especially leave out the coke. Although the number of people at a festival can be a bit overwhelming, everything else about the setting is perfect IMO. You have nothing to worry about, surrounded by others that use drugs. You dont have to drive or anything, plus there is tons of music that you enjoy. IME its those outside world worries that ruins trips and at a festival, you have none. If you have done K a bunch, I don't think you will have much trouble with L, but I do suggest trying it by itself your first time. Dose the L earlier on in the afternoon or early evening and maybe do some bumps of K on the comedown.
 
LSD is a great drug, but only when you're in the right mindset. Remember with all these serious drugs to give it the upmost respect and make sure you use it and it doesn't use you. my advice would be to use it when you haven't done MDMA, alcohol, coke and ket in the same night, because it either wont affect you will or your chances of a bad trip go up.

With LSD though, to relax it is sometimes good to have a few beers or something, but mixing it with all that shit on your first time, i wouldn't recommend it.
 
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meepless said:
With LSD though, to relax it is sometimes good to have a few beers or something, but mixing it with all that shit on your first time, i wouldn't recommend it.
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Mixing alcohol with psychedelics is a terrible idea IMO... borderline sacrilege (for lack of a better term).

However, I generally agree that first time LSD users should avoid all other substances... besides weed of course! :)
 
theotherside26 said:
Yeah to me LSD isn't a festival type drug. Maybe take all your other chem's at the festival and way latter on take your dose in a private space where you can feel free to lay down and close your eyes.
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Oh plenty of others would disagree...

It depends on the festival though...

Any sort of EDM festival that is not too huge is awesome to drop some acid at....

There was a small music festival in suburbia, a couple hundred people showed up and i knew a good few people that went.... We all were tripping face, i knew i was not as far gone as my friend who decided to eat 7 sugar cubes of a quality that suprised everyone that took them... honestly 1 or 2 would have been enough, but he ate 7... Needless to say he was running around screaming gibberish into the night, lost all of his belongings including his wallet in the lake, and managed to find everything by dawn.... He also managed to run through a bunch of briars and into a barbed wire fence....

A nice small festival where there are so many drugs going around that everyone is dosed to oblivion is quite a time....

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Unfortunately doing it at 4 A.M. after partying is also not the best of times, probably you will already have ingested drugs and you might be a bit tired and generally not focussed I imagine.
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However, if your the morning type of person, its kind of nice to wake up at like 4am, dose, and peak at sunrise..... And then your back down to pretty normal by noon.... Its a great option if you dont want to be up all night and just want to enjoy the rest of the day in a nice afterglow.... Once you start to feel it your not going to be tired at all from waking up that early....
 
Hey guys,

as you can probably tell by my name, I'm a beginner when it comes to Psychedelics, but have always been absolutely fascinated by them.

To give you a brief psych-run down on myself, I'm 20 as of a few days ago, I smoke a bit of weed a few days a week, I've done mushies once, and I've done K a few times. I plan to trip on acid for the first time in a few days, with 2 good mates, in sunny weather, on a beach, staying at a friends beach house. We've got some tabs which are 'roughly' 120 micrograms, but are said to be fairly strong...

I consider myself a fairly spiritual and open minded person, but I am known to get anxious and paranoid sometimes when my setting is not right...

I've been putting off acid for a long time as I was a little scared of it, but now I'm going to just suck it up, and do it, as I don't think there is going to be any better time. I'm planning on eating half a tab, and seeing how it goes from there.

Just looking for some confirmation/recommendation as to what I should or should not do...

I'm very excited, and I hope it opens my mind to a lot :)

Peace.
 
Shrooom Q's....

hey!
i need some help with the following questions

when it comes to a first-timer...
[[the shrooms are called "goldcaps"]]

#1 -how many mushrooms would provide a trip that is awsome but not enough
for you to loose control .... an eigth each...?

#2 -how long does a trip last....?

#3 -towards the end of the trip are you able to control yourself completely?
(on the amount that was answered for number #1)

#4 -if the person has done lsd before, what should be the expectations for the
trip? or should there be none?

#5 -if you cannot do it indoors... is in the middle of a most the time empty park a good place to trip?

#6 -if a park is not a good place ... what would the best outdoor location be?
 
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