Oxycontin use causing speedball effect a day after amph use?

[NeedingSobriety]

Ok So 3 days ago I bought .2 of Crystal amphs and was slowly doing it, and last night i finished the bag and residue inside my piece, crashed out a couple hours afterwards( i slept for 7am till 4pm so i got a good nights(or day i should say)rest, well Ive had a Half of a 80mg OC that ive been holding on to for about 4 days. I had an intense urge to do it last night but ive heard of the possible Fatal effects it can have so i Fought off the urge and decided i was gonna do it some time today after waking up and resting for awhile..Well I just smoked it about 30 minutes ago, and since then My heart has been Racing really fast and then will randomly slow down to a little below normal Heart beat then shoot back up to a racing heart beat within seconds..And im not doing any sort of physical activity at all to raise it( just sitting here)..And all day today even before doin the oxy Ive been really really fatigued..Had to walk up the street to a friends for a minute and just 1 minute into me walking my legs get super tired and i feel like i have to sit down and i get real dizzy..Now after the oxy EVEN JUST STANDING UP MOTIONLESS, its shoots my heart rate up, and i get tired to the point where i feel like im gonna pass out and i will occasionally get real light headed and my vision will temporary black out for a second..I know meth causes fatigue and ive only used it about 4 times but it has never been this bad...Is this a ''speedball'' effect? Or could it be that last night i accidentally and unknowingly Inhaled a hit of candle wax smoke(Long story short, A little bit of wax was on my hands, got into pipe, and i hit without knowing because it was in the stem and the stem was Still White from the residue so i couldnt see through)?

 

[Kazekage]

Sorry, I stopped reading after you said that you had smoked your once perfectly consumable (OC 80)1/2. Don't smoke pills.

 

[Dankycodone]

Don't smoke pills. No oxycontin dose not cause speedball effects the next day this is a very stupid thread.

 

[NeedingSobriety]

I dont tell u guys how to do ur drugs, dont tell me how to do mine..Guaranteed uve never tried it but still think its just a waste cause of what u've 'heard', not experienced.

And how is it stupid danky? For getting information on something That i don't know about and couldnt find info on a specific Oxycontin + meth blend...

 

[Shambles]

I would imagine the unpleasant effects you describe would be down to smoking pills rather than any "speedball" effects. There's a reason why people tend to be dimissive of pill-smoking talk

I doubt that accidentally inhaling wax smoke (?!? :D) would be related but fatigue could be involved. Sounds more like nasty side-effects from smoking all the crap in pills to me though.

 

[NeedingSobriety]

Thanks for your input Shambles, the one thing that i do have to disagree with is the Oxy doing this to me, even in my Darkest hours of withdrawal I have never experienced So much fatigue that i have today, and stuff like this doesnt just happen over night it progresses slowly. So im at a stand still(or sit still lol) I hope this is just a comedown from the meth that ive never experienced, and nothing majorly wrong. Although my heart feels perfectly fine now, The only thing that is wrong is the fatigue i still have..lets hope it will pass with another nights rest.

 

[Dankycodone]

Thanks for your input Shambles, the one thing that i do have to disagree with is the Oxy doing this to me, even in my Darkest hours of withdrawal I have never experienced So much fatigue that i have today, and stuff like this doesnt just happen over night it progresses slowly. So im at a stand still(or sit still lol) I hope this is just a comedown from the meth that ive never experienced, and nothing majorly wrong. Although my heart feels perfectly fine now, The only thing that is wrong is the fatigue i still have..lets hope it will pass with another nights rest.

lmao you w/d ? by smoking oxy? thats hilarious i just laughed so much. Shambles is right all the negative effects you are feeling is do to binders and other nasty shit building in your body without getting you high.

 

[Shambles]

^ I don't doubt that it's possible to experience withdrawals from smoking Oxy - it's an incredibly inefficient and toxic way of using it but you still end up with opiates in your system and therefore can get withdrawals. Really is the absolute worst way of using it though for sure

You'll probably feel a whole lot better after some sleep, NS. Get some good food inside you too cos it really helps

I really would advise finding another way of using your Oxy though - there is honestly no benefit whatsoever in smoking it and a whole heap of reasons not to. Snort it, eat it, plug it anything other than smoking it - even IVing it is less harmful than smoking it and that's pretty damn harmful

 

[NeedingSobriety]

Yeah its unheard of that an opiate causes withdrawal huh? and how is someone going through withdrawal funny in the least bit? You know what..Fuck you kid, You probably dont know shit about smoking oxy's, All you THINK YOU KNOW is the shit u read up on the internet probably, and have never even talked to somebody That has smoked an oxy..Or if they did, their dumbasses Smoked the wrong kind..The only kind u can smoke are the Purdue brand Oxy's, anything else is just a waste, Yes if u do it wrong u fuck up and waste the pill, but if u can properly chase it on foil or vape it Then it fucks ur world up more then it would if then any other method of Consumption (besides IVing it) If you knew anything about Oxy's you would know that Smoking them has withdrawals comparable to ones u get from IVing it and is right behind Iving it when it comes to Addicitiveness(if thats even a word)

Unless you've actually Smoked a Oxy before, i dont want to hear your hear-say Information.

I tried being nice before but now ur just being an asshole so this had to be said.

edit : this wasnt towards u shambles..all towards danky..u posted while i was typing mine out

 

[titicaca2]

My entire circle smokes pills. I don't like it, its like smoking plastic. I prefer insufflation. ANYWAY. We all smoke pills and no one gives anyone shit about it, because there's no taboo. Its the norm. You get high, its instant. I see the pros. The cons: an 80 mg oxycontin weighs what, .25? So thats .17 of junk? Yummy.

But I'm not going to call you stupid. I've done it. Wouldn't do it again.

As to the speedball thing? I'm guessing its the meth. Not the pill smoking.

 

[Shambles]

^^ I agree that withdrawals are withdrawals and you will get them whatever way you use your Oxy (or other opiate) but IV withdrawals are no better or worse than those from using it in any other way. Nor is it any more addictive - you're either addicted or you're not - but many find the associated rituals to be addictive in and of themselves. This would also apply to smoking.

Also, there really is no way of smoking any pill "properly". Yes it will get you high but a lot of that rush you get is actually from the toxins you are inhaling and not from the drug itself. I'm not disputing that you still end up with some opiates in your system but most of the oxycodone will be destroyed with the heat so you really are wasting the vast majority of it. You will get way higher on way less if you use a different MOA. Up to you though - it's your health and your wallet on the line not mine

 

[NeedingSobriety]

My entire circle smokes pills. I don't like it, its like smoking plastic. I prefer insufflation. ANYWAY. We all smoke pills and no one gives anyone shit about it, because there's no taboo. Its the norm. You get high, its instant. I see the pros. The cons: an 80 mg oxycontin weighs what, .25? So thats .17 of junk? Yummy.

But I'm not going to call you stupid. I've done it. Wouldn't do it again.

As to the speedball thing? I'm guessing its the meth. Not the pill smoking.

Yeah, But ive been talking to alot of people and i guess this is normal for the most of them but its like im more addicted to the process of smoking it then the actual pill itself =/..And Yeah i also see that ur from the NW, its like an epidemic over here, atleast in Seattle and seattles inner-cities. If u dont mind me asking, what general area are u from, and has smoking oxys became a problem around there for everyone like it has around here?

 

[NeedingSobriety]

^^ I agree that withdrawals are withdrawals and you will get them whatever way you use your Oxy (or other opiate) but IV withdrawals are no better or worse than those from using it in any other way. Nor is it any more addictive - you're either addicted or you're not - but many find the associated rituals to be addictive in and of themselves. This would also apply to smoking.

Also, there really is no way of smoking any pill "properly". Yes it will get you high but a lot of that rush you get is actually from the toxins you are inhaling and not from the drug itself. I'm not disputing that you still end up with some opiates in your system but most of the oxycodone will be destroyed with the heat so you really are wasting the vast majority of it. You will get way higher on way less if you use a different MOA. Up to you though - it's your health and your wallet on the line not mine

I actually used to pop them, and i have snorted them before..Nothing hit as hard As smoking them to me..The only way the oxycodone is destroyed is by somebody Holding the flame even just 1cm to close to the foil im not saying it doesnt burn not even 1mg Im sure it does But i know it doesnt burn up as much as everybody thinks...Hell, any drug done improperly can waste it.. And thats weird about the Withdrawal thing, My friend has been Shooting oxy's for 5 months, ive been smoking them for ten months, and days that i see him in withdrawal he looks and describes his Physical agonies and it sounds like its alot worse then what i go through, and i know mine is hell...I coulda swor that w/ds are heavier or lighter depending on ROA.. My bad.

Err..sorry about double post ~.~

 

[Dankycodone]

Don't use offense this the internet which makes your little words pointless. I never said you can't get w/d from smoking it's just funny that you keep smoking it and accepting it as a ROA. What your saying is fucking stupid Its not a best ROA you prolly get like 5-10mg in your system and the rest is destroyed.

 

[NeedingSobriety]

Don't use offense this the internet which makes your little words pointless. I never said you can't get w/d from smoking it's just funny that you keep smoking it and accepting it as a ROA. What your saying is fucking stupid Its not a best ROA you prolly get like 5-10mg in your system and the rest is destroyed.

Yes this is the internet, but i have personal experience as well, im not purely relying on a paragraph on the internet for my info. Oh and if thats not what u implied, what were u meaning by ''lmao you w/d ? by smoking oxy? thats hilarious i just laughed so much''

What else does that imply? and once again u saying ''You prolly only get 5-10mg'' By ''prolly'' that implies ur assuming how much u get? How can you make such an assumption about a ROA you've never tried? And also if u read my other posts, you would have read that i originally popped them to, and i have sniffed them, but none of the highs hit me as hard as smoking them...Anything else that needs cleared up?

 

[Shambles]

And thats weird about the Withdrawal thing, My friend has been Shooting oxy's for 5 months, ive been smoking them for ten months, and days that i see him in withdrawal he looks and describes his Physical agonies and it sounds like its alot worse then what i go through, and i know mine is hell...I coulda swor that w/ds are heavier or lighter depending on ROA.. My bad.

I would suspect your friend's withdrawals are worse because he is actually getting all of the Oxy into his system so has a heavier addiction. If you smoke it you waste so much that your withdrawals won't be so bad cos you are simply taking less

And for the record, I'm not being preachy for the sake of it - I have smoked pills (and also injected them) many times in my shadier past before I found out how toxic and wasteful it is. I know it works but I also know it's unbelievably inefficient. Just cos other people do it doesn't mean you have to follow them in their silly ways - be a shepherd rather than a sheep

 

[Dankycodone]

Yes this is the internet, but i have personal experience as well, im not purely relying on a paragraph on the internet for my info. Oh and if thats not what u implied, what were u meaning by ''lmao you w/d ? by smoking oxy? thats hilarious i just laughed so much''

What else does that imply? and once again u saying ''You prolly only get 5-10mg'' By ''prolly'' that implies ur assuming how much u get? How can you make such an assumption about a ROA you've never tried? And also if u read my other posts, you would have read that i originally popped them to, and i have sniffed them, but none of the highs hit me as hard as smoking them...Anything else that needs cleared up?

You are lucky I gave you 5-10mg only reason I did that is because shambles has a lot of experince and he said so. If you ask me you are getting 0mg

 

[NeedingSobriety]

You are lucky I gave you 5-10mg only reason I did that is because shambles has a lot of experince and he said so. If you ask me you are getting 0mg

Once again relying on somebody else with no experience urself..even if he is right..And u posted before he did with ur b/s..So by saying ''shambles said so'' even though u posted before him makes me believe you have 100% no clue what u are talking about, at all and are now trying to avoid relevance to not make yourself look even more...uneducated to be polite.

 

[Dankycodone]

Am done arguing as i can't contribute to this thread anymore as it is really a stupid pointless self serving thread.

 

[NeedingSobriety]

Am done arguing as i can't contribute to this thread anymore as it is really a stupid pointless self serving thread.

Thank you for further Proving my points. You dont have anything to contribute thats relevant and now when called out on it, you flee one post later..Sigh..Why is it that i find a bl'er like this every other day it seems? Instead of contributing something positive, they have to try to flame and then flee when called upon for their bullshit?


Kinda cute to how i noticed smoking oxys has been brought up every thread something like this has happened..I dont see why not only is it frowned upon around here, it also tickles peoples emotions i guess and makes them rage, not to mention the fact There are alot worse drugs on here that are openly accepted.