kaseone
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first time tripping dex in a LONG time. about an hour and a half into it and amazinggg.
The Big & Dandy DXM Thread
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So yeah, I was able to dex last night, only to have my damn brother and his friends walk in the apartment at 5:30 AM while I'm still coming down.
Other than that, loved it. Much more intense than the Robo-gel trip for sure. Vicks tastes like shit, though :/
Other than that, loved it. Much more intense than the Robo-gel trip for sure. Vicks tastes like shit, though :/
What does it mean that it takes me a fucking shitload of DXM to get high?
I seriously have to drink 2 to 3 118ml bottles of tussin cough (pure DXM, no other shit in it) to get a decent high.
That's 1062mg of DXM.
What does that mean?
I seriously have to drink 2 to 3 118ml bottles of tussin cough (pure DXM, no other shit in it) to get a decent high.
That's 1062mg of DXM.
What does that mean?
PepperSocks
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^ if you're consuming a quantity like that just to get high off it, it more than likely means you just have a really high tolerance. If you're consuming DXM frequently it might be a good idea to slow down, you also might be able to get high off lower doses if the tolerance fades.
However, you may just have an innate tolerance for DXM in which case there's nothing you can do about it but consume large amounts of DXM to compensate for your natural tolerance. The safety in doing this well.... there is none, I'd advise against taking such high doses of this chemical, it can spell problems down the road.![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
However, you may just have an innate tolerance for DXM in which case there's nothing you can do about it but consume large amounts of DXM to compensate for your natural tolerance. The safety in doing this well.... there is none, I'd advise against taking such high doses of this chemical, it can spell problems down the road.
Shambles
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I don't know a whole lot about DXM as I've never used it, but have read that many people use grapefruit juice to potentiate - may help but I'm sure others know better. Also weight plays quite a role in dosage, I believe. That sound like a pretty hefty dose for anyone in my fairly uneducated opinion though.
nearjat
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You're a big dude.
Your enzymes are working overtime.
Both.
I think grapefruit juice has an enzyme inhibitor in it that keeps DXM from being destroyed while ingested or something. Idk what I'm talking about 100% but yeah.
PepperSocks
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There are chemicals in grapefruit juice that inhibit liver enzymes used in drug metabolism (CYP 2D6 is one of them I believe).
It can be used for potentiation. It might work, it might not. As with anything involving potentiation (especially through enzyme inhibition) it's a good idea to be cautious about it; there's the potential it could get really potentiated which would not be a good thing.
Probably a good idea to do some reading about grapefruit juice and DXM to see what kind of doses people use.
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Wikipedia said:
It was CYP 3A4, not 2D6. And it's an intestinal enzyme, not liver.
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lazydullard
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Yeah, grapefruit juice will make it last like 30% longer, and your comedown will be much rougher and longer too. The "peak" will probably double in time (from like 45 minutes to like 80 minutes). If I Drank 10 mg/kg, it'll feel like 11.5 mg/kg, but longer lasting. I'll also have double vision well into the next morning. Usually I clear my schedule for atleast 18 hours on a 10mg dose. If I'm on a grapefruit juice system, I'll clear it for a good 30 hours. I don't trip for the whole 30 hours, but it takes that long before I can function like a normal human being again.
if we're talking about enzyme thingies, its worth mentioning that DXM inhibits its own uh... "conversion?" to DXO. This means that when you redose (or dose slowly) most of the DXM will stay as DXM, and will also stay in your system longer. DXM-heavy trips are more sketchy.. I'll talk to myself and make sardonic plans and have center-of-the-universe kind of thoughts and paranoia. But I won't feel very high at all.
The faster you get the dose down, the more DXO you'll have, and you'll get more euphoria, floatiness, music appreciation, and "space time." I try to never redose, because its just not as good... but I'm a little compulsive when it comes to the cough syrup.
I always down my robo in 3 big gulps on an empty belly.Timeless/Time-free euphoria and escapism everytime. This thread always makes me wanna dose.
if we're talking about enzyme thingies, its worth mentioning that DXM inhibits its own uh... "conversion?" to DXO. This means that when you redose (or dose slowly) most of the DXM will stay as DXM, and will also stay in your system longer. DXM-heavy trips are more sketchy.. I'll talk to myself and make sardonic plans and have center-of-the-universe kind of thoughts and paranoia. But I won't feel very high at all.
The faster you get the dose down, the more DXO you'll have, and you'll get more euphoria, floatiness, music appreciation, and "space time." I try to never redose, because its just not as good... but I'm a little compulsive when it comes to the cough syrup.
I always down my robo in 3 big gulps on an empty belly.Timeless/Time-free euphoria and escapism everytime. This thread always makes me wanna dose.
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lazydullard
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MrMan, how quickly are you drinking your syrup? Is it on an empty stomach? What do you do during the come-up? If I"m playing video games, sometimes I'll stay glued to the TV for the entire 8 hour trip without ever noticing I"m tripping.
At my heaviest, 290 lbs, a gram of DXM would always give me a good high/trip. How often are you dosing? I can trip for 3 days in a row, after that, it's just a very good high.
Have you tried a toke of weed when you 'peak'? (usually at the 2 to 3 hour mark). Too much weed can overpower the DXM and make it a trippy stone, but just one good toke will powerfulyl potentiate the DXM.
I use to dose 6mg/kg to 9 mg/kg for a good time. But I gave it a long break and now a 3.4 mg/kg can give me an enlightening trip. Not an outter space trip, but a "what is my place in this world?" trip. At 8mg/kg, I can get nearly full dissocation with a puff of weed, but when I was using 3-4 times a week, it would take 12mg/kg.
At my heaviest, 290 lbs, a gram of DXM would always give me a good high/trip. How often are you dosing? I can trip for 3 days in a row, after that, it's just a very good high.
Have you tried a toke of weed when you 'peak'? (usually at the 2 to 3 hour mark). Too much weed can overpower the DXM and make it a trippy stone, but just one good toke will powerfulyl potentiate the DXM.
I use to dose 6mg/kg to 9 mg/kg for a good time. But I gave it a long break and now a 3.4 mg/kg can give me an enlightening trip. Not an outter space trip, but a "what is my place in this world?" trip. At 8mg/kg, I can get nearly full dissocation with a puff of weed, but when I was using 3-4 times a week, it would take 12mg/kg.
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jiffilube
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I weigh 126 lbs (57kg) and regularly take 472mg of DXM when I trip, which is about 8.3 mg/kg, yet the effects only seem like second level trips. Ive always wanted to experience the sensory flanging that's often described, but i rarely get any 3rd level effects, if any 
lazydullard
Bluelighter
Maybe you guys are just weird. I'm extremely disconnected at 8.3mg. Every sense feels like its own little mind and world, and they all float inside a finite black galaxy, which I eventually figured out is actually just my own conciousness. Binocular vision is completely destroyed. Opening both eyes is a nauseating explosion of shapes and colors that have no instrinsic meaning... I have to pull out the identity of everything I see myself. I don't see a chair, and a table, it's more looking at an entire painting at once. I can force myself to recognize the boundaries and the space of the chair or the table. Once, at a 12mg trip, I couldn't recognize my brother as my brother, or even a human. It was all just colorful input in one section of my mind-galaxy.
Actually, I think you guys are just not dosing quick enough. But it's possibly just a metabolism thing.
When you trip, don't think of yourself as a human being. If you think of yourself as a human being, you'll put boundaries and limits on your senses. You'll arrange the information your brain receives in a human way... Think of yourself as a robot or a monster or meat-puppet. Try to play tricks on your senses, or completely ignore some of them. My favorite thing to do is to ignore every sense except hearing. Then my world becomes the music I'm listening to. It's extremely euphoric. The patterns and structures and repitition... Since your long term memory is gone, and short term memory is weakened, the repitition in the music gives you a sense of longevity/infinity/always. Music is predictable, and although you can't remember exactly what you just heard, you're still somehow able to know/predict the next set of notes. So the future, which is only the song, comes at you in a set, meaningful, predictable way. Maybe it feels like you're a gear in a perfect machine? I could describe it better if I was more knowledgable with musical jargon.
But I'm a total cough syrup freak/addict. I think abusing the stuff too long eventually just forces your brain into a chemical depression. Like... It'll be impossible to feel good or fine or comfortable for days or even weeks after heavy use. You'll feel anxious and overwhelmed and wanna die and stuff. Pretty crappy, and pretty dangerous until you link it to the DXM and learn that time does heal.
Anyways, I think I figured out why cough syrup makes me feel so good... You don't have to perceive yourself as a human, or think of yourself as a human. It's so much freedom. If you're into being human, though, it'll prolly just make you feel shitty.
Actually, I think you guys are just not dosing quick enough. But it's possibly just a metabolism thing.
When you trip, don't think of yourself as a human being. If you think of yourself as a human being, you'll put boundaries and limits on your senses. You'll arrange the information your brain receives in a human way... Think of yourself as a robot or a monster or meat-puppet. Try to play tricks on your senses, or completely ignore some of them. My favorite thing to do is to ignore every sense except hearing. Then my world becomes the music I'm listening to. It's extremely euphoric. The patterns and structures and repitition... Since your long term memory is gone, and short term memory is weakened, the repitition in the music gives you a sense of longevity/infinity/always. Music is predictable, and although you can't remember exactly what you just heard, you're still somehow able to know/predict the next set of notes. So the future, which is only the song, comes at you in a set, meaningful, predictable way. Maybe it feels like you're a gear in a perfect machine? I could describe it better if I was more knowledgable with musical jargon.
But I'm a total cough syrup freak/addict. I think abusing the stuff too long eventually just forces your brain into a chemical depression. Like... It'll be impossible to feel good or fine or comfortable for days or even weeks after heavy use. You'll feel anxious and overwhelmed and wanna die and stuff. Pretty crappy, and pretty dangerous until you link it to the DXM and learn that time does heal.
Anyways, I think I figured out why cough syrup makes me feel so good... You don't have to perceive yourself as a human, or think of yourself as a human. It's so much freedom. If you're into being human, though, it'll prolly just make you feel shitty.
jiffilube
Bluelighter
I think you're just lucky... I've gone to an amusement park on 8.3mg/kg and been able to function fairly normally other than wanting to hug strangers and having a bad studder xD I definitely felt it, it was like I was just weightless and i bounced from place to place, and I would get somewhere and forget how I did.
Rides were crazy! Being on them was the only time i got major trails on DXM, I suggest it to anyone with a strong stomach
Especially roller coasters
Rides were crazy! Being on them was the only time i got major trails on DXM, I suggest it to anyone with a strong stomach
Especially roller coasterslazydullard
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the weightless feeling is your inner ear, your sense of gravity, either being ignored or repressed. On really high doses it's totally supressed and you gotta learn what muscles in your calves, quads, and back need to be contracted or relaxed to be able to stand straight. It's a fun trip to learn how to walk all over again. Close your eyes and you feel floaty. This is because your sense of spatial awareness ie where your body parts are located, still works. But because your sense of gravity is gone, so you don't know which direction is up or down. It feels like you float up and down because your eyes are registering up and down movement with every step, although you may not realize that's what is making you feel floaty, because your sense of sight automatically filters this motion out of your visual feed: your vision is steady (until you up the dose).
This is largely the reason why many dexxers go into "outer space" when they trip. If you close your eyes, you have no idea where you are. On higher doses, you can't even feel your body. This makes it feel like the black space behind your eyes is your whole world. If you're a visual thinker, then when you think about something, you can see it super clearly. You can essentially have the most powerful daydreams possible.
I'm a very verbal, wordful thinker. So I don't often have those weird trips to different worlds and stuff lots of dexxers get. I have one example.. On a heavy dose above 10 mg/kg (possibly was 12 mg/kg), I closed my eyes, and had no thoughts. I didn't feel my body, my breath, the air or gravity... I forgot to think, so my existence was just darkness for a long time. I opened my eyes, and saw all white. I focused closer, and saw speckling and texture in the white...I struggled for meaning. What was all this whiteness and texture?
Eventually I pulled a distant concept out of my scattered mind'; "Wall.". That's all I could see. It was all wall. With my binocular vision disabled, I had no depth perception, nor did I have any running concepts of distances and relative space. It seemed that all there was was simply wall.
I assumed, then, that if there was only wall, then I, too, was wall. I stared at the whiteness for a long time. I was on the comedown then, so I was gradually gaining back reason and memories and the ability to hold ideas. Eventually I realized that walls are connected to a floor and a roof, and I felt that my "existence" or "conciousness" was square, and boxed by heaviness on all four sides. Memories dripped back to me. I knew there was an end table set against this wall, and I felt it and was aware of its prescence against me. I knew there was a bed set against the wall, and I became aware of that, too. Eventually I realized that *I* was pressed against the wall, and got up and spent probably 20 minutes struggling to use the computer, but my vision was flanging... It's like a movie cinema that's off track; the picture flashes, and "slides" and "vibrates", usually downward and to the left. I think my right eye is dominant, but it could be some function in the brain that causes this consisent motion. Anyways, makes it near impossible to read, especially with like only 1 second of short term memory.
er.. yeah. Well, I said I was hella wordy, didn't I?
This is largely the reason why many dexxers go into "outer space" when they trip. If you close your eyes, you have no idea where you are. On higher doses, you can't even feel your body. This makes it feel like the black space behind your eyes is your whole world. If you're a visual thinker, then when you think about something, you can see it super clearly. You can essentially have the most powerful daydreams possible.
I'm a very verbal, wordful thinker. So I don't often have those weird trips to different worlds and stuff lots of dexxers get. I have one example.. On a heavy dose above 10 mg/kg (possibly was 12 mg/kg), I closed my eyes, and had no thoughts. I didn't feel my body, my breath, the air or gravity... I forgot to think, so my existence was just darkness for a long time. I opened my eyes, and saw all white. I focused closer, and saw speckling and texture in the white...I struggled for meaning. What was all this whiteness and texture?
Eventually I pulled a distant concept out of my scattered mind'; "Wall.". That's all I could see. It was all wall. With my binocular vision disabled, I had no depth perception, nor did I have any running concepts of distances and relative space. It seemed that all there was was simply wall.
I assumed, then, that if there was only wall, then I, too, was wall. I stared at the whiteness for a long time. I was on the comedown then, so I was gradually gaining back reason and memories and the ability to hold ideas. Eventually I realized that walls are connected to a floor and a roof, and I felt that my "existence" or "conciousness" was square, and boxed by heaviness on all four sides. Memories dripped back to me. I knew there was an end table set against this wall, and I felt it and was aware of its prescence against me. I knew there was a bed set against the wall, and I became aware of that, too. Eventually I realized that *I* was pressed against the wall, and got up and spent probably 20 minutes struggling to use the computer, but my vision was flanging... It's like a movie cinema that's off track; the picture flashes, and "slides" and "vibrates", usually downward and to the left. I think my right eye is dominant, but it could be some function in the brain that causes this consisent motion. Anyways, makes it near impossible to read, especially with like only 1 second of short term memory.
er.. yeah. Well, I said I was hella wordy, didn't I?
rafterfalling
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Ugh! My friend, Stomach, wishes his local grocery sold the gel capsules; it doesn't like the syrup very much at all.
Ason Unique
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Well I was supposed to get weed today, but my only connect couldn't meet me, and I have to wait until next week. I had planned to smoke weed and drink the big bottle of delsym and was wanting to keep it.
Anyways I got bored, decided to chug the syrup, then I proceeded to become a fiend and search every place I stashed weed, I got little bits of partially vaped weed, bit of kief from stems, and some stems. I put it all in a bowl and smoked it like an hour after drinking the syrup. Smoked the bowl and started to get high as fuck. DXM decreases tolerance to weed that much, hopefully I'll start tripping off the dex soon.
Anyways I got bored, decided to chug the syrup, then I proceeded to become a fiend and search every place I stashed weed, I got little bits of partially vaped weed, bit of kief from stems, and some stems. I put it all in a bowl and smoked it like an hour after drinking the syrup. Smoked the bowl and started to get high as fuck. DXM decreases tolerance to weed that much, hopefully I'll start tripping off the dex soon.
~SEMO~
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shitty deal about your contact. I sometimes use 100mg of DXM to potenate my weed. I usually get like 5 times more stoned then usual.
Ason Unique
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Yeah high as shit from the DXM still, gonna be like this for a few more hours though lol...
Dankycodone
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Ason I was going to take 300mg of dxm I did it once at 100mg and nothing happend. Do you think I will hallucinate after 300mg? thats all I really want off of it.
~SEMO~
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alright I just drank two bottles of delsym 1740mg DXM polistirex. I have never done dextromethorphen polistirex before. what am i in for?
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