Tryptamines [DPT Subthread] DPT Dosage & Methods of Administration

[Mjäll]

What dosage do you recommend for my first DPT trial? I'm going to insufflate it and I have plenty of previous psychedelic experience.

I'd like a solid but not overwhelming +++.

(I just realized how contradictory it is to describe a psychedelic experience as "not overwhelming" but I hope you'll catch my drift)

 

[Recept]

^ Since dosages seem to be so all over the place with this substance, I would suggest preparing several small lines (like 25-30 mg or something like that), snorting two to start, then waiting for 15 minutes (about how long it takes for it to peak), then snorting another if you're not where you want to be, and repeating this until you reach your desired level. This is what I did my first time and it worked out great for me.

 

[Mjäll]

^ Since dosages seem to be so all over the place with this substance, I would suggest preparing several small lines (like 25-30 mg or something like that), snorting two to start, then waiting for 15 minutes (about how long it takes for it to peak), then snorting another if you're not where you want to be, and repeating this until you reach your desired level. This is what I did my first time and it worked out great for me.

So your recommended starting dosage is something like 50-60 mg, with little boosts to taste? Seems reasonable, though I will probably not boost.

 

[swilow]

^I would suggest a bit lower; I haven't read back for a while, but start quite low- like 30mg's; some people get bowled over by smaller amounts of DPT then others. But if your looking for a +++ then I think you'd be wise going lower then 60mg's. That said, I think for optimum sexual enhancement and nice visuals- 20-30mgs is okay. For peak experience's I would go about 100-150mgs....the in between of those states is rather....difficult.

 

[fastandbulbous]

So your recommended starting dosage is something like 50-60 mg, with little boosts to taste? Seems reasonable, though I will probably not boost.

I'd have said more like 25-30mg as a starting dosage. Seen people have the odd wobbly moment from 30mg lines, but nothing that couldn't be handled fairly easily. Seen (well second hand festival account from close friend) someone snort 70mg first time and be completely poleaxed. The lad in question was trying to run a burger/grill establishment at the Big Green Gathering a few years back - needless to say, he wasn't doing very well the last time we saw him...

 

[Mjäll]

I'd have said more like 25-30mg as a starting dosage. Seen people have the odd wobbly moment from 30mg lines, but nothing that couldn't be handled fairly easily. Seen (well second hand festival account from close friend) someone snort 70mg first time and be completely poleaxed. The lad in question was trying to run a burger/grill establishment at the Big Green Gathering a few years back - needless to say, he wasn't doing very well the last time we saw him...

Me and my friend ended up doing 5 doses of 25 mg each over the course of roughly 5 hours. I definitely got into some very blissful visionary psychedelic state after the 3rd or 4th dose, unlike anything I've ever experienced before. DPT really is something else.

About 1 hour after the last dose we decided to spice it up, so I had approximately 12 milligrams of 5-MeO-MiPT, while he proceeded to take circa 31 milligrams of 4-HO-MET.

I experienced the 5-MeO-MiPT action just as potent as it would have been without dosing DPT before. It was interesting to note the differences in visual character between the two compounds. While DPT made my world look like a fuzz and created vivid tapestries of recursive fractal veils inside my head, 5-MeO-MiPT was, as always, all about changing the way the world looks, as far as visuals go - something more akin to acid with visual patterns and textures highly dependant on, but conceptually rising above the observed object.

My friend said that 4-HO-MET was highly visually active, but not as cognitive as it usually is. A bizarre notion consisting of comparison to half-finished video game graphics was made regarding the visual nature of his 4-HO-MET trip.

All in all, yesterday was really a great lesson for me and I hope that it will become a pronounced turning point in my life. I would gladly describe the deeper and more personal facets of all of this; especially the DPT state, and I don't want to come across as obsessed with superficial characteristics of drug intoxication - but I feel that these more important and constructive levels are wholly related to my own person and might be of little use for anyone else.

A final note: I had one slightly alarming physical sensation, predominantly during the peak of 5-MeO-MiPT; my right leg felt like a heavy, wooden leg and went numb once during the night, which scared me because I know of the vasoconstrictive effects that psychedelics in general do have. I am fine now, though.

 

[swilow]

I'd have said more like 25-30mg as a starting dosage. Seen people have the odd wobbly moment from 30mg lines, but nothing that couldn't be handled fairly easily. Seen (well second hand festival account from close friend) someone snort 70mg first time and be completely poleaxed. The lad in question was trying to run a burger/grill establishment at the Big Green Gathering a few years back - needless to say, he wasn't doing very well the last time we saw him...

Do you mean that he was suffering some sort of after effect, obv. negative, after using DPT? In what sense...?

I have always found DPT to be VERY intense, but with the right setting (alone, in your own house with your big three headed doggy for company ) if you just lie down and relax it is awesome in the most hindu-delic way

edit: I took a 15mg dose of 4-Ho-DiPT about 1 1/2 hours after a 120mg sniff-terised DPT; a semblace of the DPT visuals and headspacereturned, but mainly the iprocin held sway

 

[rollin_stoned]

I'm supposed to be getting around 65 mg's of DPT in the near future. I'm a bit nervous about doing it because i've never done a tryptamine before and all the reports i've read on this one and others seems a bit frightening.

i was wondering how quickly you build a tolerance to this drug because i want to snort half of it and if i can handle more either cut the other line in half and snort 1/4 of 65 mg's or just snort the entire other half not cutting it.

also, how long should i space out the dosages?

 

[effingcustie]

I'm supposed to be getting around 65 mg's of DPT in the near future. I'm a bit nervous about doing it because i've never done a tryptamine before and all the reports i've read on this one and others seems a bit frightening.

i was wondering how quickly you build a tolerance to this drug because i want to snort half of it and if i can handle more either cut the other line in half and snort 1/4 of 65 mg's or just snort the entire other half not cutting it.

also, how long should i space out the dosages?

If you wait 15-20 minutes after the first dose it should be taking effect enough that you can tell how much more you think you can handle.

 

[Solipsis]

Well personally I was apprehensive before trying DPT myself the same you seem to be, rollin_stoned... there are definitely some unreal journeys being described often enough!

But after trying it myself it appears that dosage is very much a big factor and lower doses when insufflated feel to me like they are more peaceful than I expected, even though there is a distinct undertone of intensity that is kind of promising but hardly threatening. I went as high as about 80-90 mg and I wasn't standing on my head because of it.
At the same time I can imagine stretching this much further and getting into some pretty serious wild and interesting headspace if or when I go higher.

You don't even seem to have that much to experiment with, if you consider those experiences.

By the way when I started experimenting I looked it up and the come-on time was mentioned to be 5-20 minutes. So that was what I used to space my doses although my product is a bit clumpy and after 20 minutes there was still a bit of buildup finishing because those clumps probably dissolved somewhat slower in my nose.

Vaporized DMT hit me much harder, even lower doses. But I'd never go so far as to say that DPT doesn't hold just as much promise otherwise!

Hmmm DPT is special
But it burns like a mofo - and longerlingering than a 2C at that, it really matters to me

 

[Mjäll]

I had to get 100 mg in my system for it to become +++ (lacking a better terminology), i.e. undeniable. 65 mg shouldn't make you nervous, really, but your idea of splitting the dosage still seems valid. For me, the onset was around 30 minutes to full effects.

 

[rollin_stoned]

well what i'm worried about is that if i do space out the dosages that i won't be getting the same effects as i would if i were to do it all at the same time.

 

[Solipsis]

That will always be the problem if you want to do pretty much anything *just* right.
Not too much but not too little, not too slowly but not too fast.
Every which way, the more extreme you go, the bigger certain risks become - risk of getting overwhelmed or underwhelmed in this case...
Nobody knows your sensitivity or how you will react and only you can decide how big of a risk you want to take that it will be too strong. Eventually only experimenting will tell I'm afraid.

 

[swilow]

I had to get 100 mg in my system for it to become +++ (lacking a better terminology), i.e. undeniable. 65 mg shouldn't make you nervous, really, but your idea of splitting the dosage still seems valid. For me, the onset was around 30 minutes to full effects.

What ROA though? Insufflation hits me in 5 mins, peaking by maybe 12mins- though by that "time", time doesn't actually exist....

 

[Mjäll]

What ROA though? Insufflation hits me in 5 mins, peaking by maybe 12mins- though by that "time", time doesn't actually exist....

ROA was nasally. Perhaps I felt like I was experiencing the "peak" from one bump while I was actually on the peak from the one after.

 

[Delsyd]

Hmmm DPT is special
But it burns like a mofo - and longerlingering than a 2C at that, it really matters to me

Solution: turn it into freebase and smoke it.

no burn, lower doses required, easier to guage a dose

 

[porkstock]

so i've read the whole thread and gotten a feel for some things, but i'd like to ask some specific questions.

i don't wanna use a needle so IM/IV is outta the question for me. and i really despise snorting stuff, so i was hoping i could vaporize the HCl
now i know i should convert it to freebase, but does anyone had successful experience with vaporizing DPT HCl? (i have an arizer extreme)

is the only disadvantage of oral dosing, that you have to dose high? i wouldn't consider it a waste if i don't have to deal with a nasty drip and clogged sinuses. i'd pay a little more for a more pleasant DPT trip.
so can i eat 250 mg, instead of snort 100 (for a peak experience i mean - i'd probably start lower, except that i've read that non-breakthrough doses can be more difficult.

so if you've tried these methods of admin, which do you prefer? oral, vaporized, or possibly rectal.
keep in mind that i won't use a needle and i probably can't convert to freebase

thanks for any info!!

 

[drugs]

From Erowid:

A medium size female smoked 100mg of Hcl salt with a slight effect. (We have since confirmed with additional experimentation that the Hcl salt form of DPT does not work very well for smoking).

You're probably better off converting to freebase or dosing oral.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I've never tried oral DPT though it is on my to-do list. Word on the streets is that for some reason oral DPT works far better when consumed in orange juice (or whatever-juice) as opposed to taking it in a capsule. If you plan to take DPT orally, I recommend you dissolve it in some juice.

Definitely proceed forward and be sure and report back...the seems to be a lack of DPT reports involving oral ingestion.

so i've read the whole thread and gotten a feel for some things, but i'd like to ask some specific questions.

i don't wanna use a needle so IM/IV is outta the question for me. and i really despise snorting stuff, so i was hoping i could vaporize the HCl
now i know i should convert it to freebase, but does anyone had successful experience with vaporizing DPT HCl? (i have an arizer extreme)

is the only disadvantage of oral dosing, that you have to dose high? i wouldn't consider it a waste if i don't have to deal with a nasty drip and clogged sinuses. i'd pay a little more for a more pleasant DPT trip.
so can i eat 250 mg, instead of snort 100 (for a peak experience i mean - i'd probably start lower, except that i've read that non-breakthrough doses can be more difficult.

so if you've tried these methods of admin, which do you prefer? oral, vaporized, or possibly rectal.
keep in mind that i won't use a needle and i probably can't convert to freebase

thanks for any info!!

 

[swilow]

^I have eaten some DPT (unknown amount) but from what I can remember, the effects were minimal.

I don't reckon the burn of snorted DPT is all that bad: more like a numbness then burn IMO.

And yep, HCL DPT doesn't smoke well at all- you need to use a lot of it, and it creates a really horrid and large amount of smoke...