Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread
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Jakeperson
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How long does vaporizing last? Is there tolerance after the first hit? Eg. Could I do 5mg and then towards the end top up again? Does a lightbulb work?
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The duration is probably 3-6 hours vaporized, and there is tolerance. If you rip a 5mg hit, it'll take 10mg to get to the same place again in 6 hours. I do not recommend vaporizing - I always had great experiences, but even a 10mg dose would leave my lungs feeling like they had a plastic bag jammed in them and inflated, or like I just had too much air pressure in my lungs, for the rest of the day, even after the trip wore off. It was a very minor sensation, but I've never had any kind of lung uncomfortableness from smoking any other substance, plant, phenethylamine, amphetamine, or whatever except for 2C-T-7.
Whatsamatau
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Wow, this is the imfamous compound that precipitated or accelerated the Web Tryp busts. Seems it's still available.
When people croaked on this stuff what did they die of. Too much CNS sitimulation, convulsions? Dumb ass parapalegic, what did he expect. No scale, no sail! (spelling intentional)
On the other hand, I'm really reluctant to try something the has a relatively narrow band in the dose response curve when there are other more less risky compounds out there that can probably get you close to the head space.
I can see from the threads on mephedrone and the like compounds that these may become the next compound of interest to LE.
When people croaked on this stuff what did they die of. Too much CNS sitimulation, convulsions? Dumb ass parapalegic, what did he expect. No scale, no sail! (spelling intentional)
On the other hand, I'm really reluctant to try something the has a relatively narrow band in the dose response curve when there are other more less risky compounds out there that can probably get you close to the head space.
I can see from the threads on mephedrone and the like compounds that these may become the next compound of interest to LE.
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It was never really determined what the exact cause for those two T7 fatalities was. Autopsy revealed pulmonary edema in the first case, I'm not sure how 2C-T-7 could have caused this but I remember reading some speculation on it. The other death was when it was combined with MDMA. Dosages were also insanely high for both cases, and the substance was insufflated. There have been no additional cases since then I believe, and there have been reports of it being used in very high doses orally without complications, so who knows what to make of it all.
Anyway, I don't know of any substances that can get you close to the headspace of T7 (other than perhaps 2C-T-2, but that one could easily have similar safety profile, plus it's more toxic feeling physically than T7), it is truly a wonderful substance. I'm hoping to sample this one again soon enough.
Anyway, I don't know of any substances that can get you close to the headspace of T7 (other than perhaps 2C-T-2, but that one could easily have similar safety profile, plus it's more toxic feeling physically than T7), it is truly a wonderful substance. I'm hoping to sample this one again soon enough.
Whatsamatau
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So in, obviously your opinion, it's special enough to take considering its "reputation". It does look like if used responsibly there should be no problems.
From the reports it seems to be particularly visual which I find most enjoyable. So far I just havn't been able to get to the same place on 2ce as what I remembered acid to be. Although is was great, there's too much unuseable energy or I can not sychronize with the energy.
Maybe I might take a second look. Any experience with the 2? Comparable?
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^ What was your dosage?
You mean with 2C-E? Well, I wouldn't say they are too similar. 2C-E is more cold and analytical and ego-dissolving, while 2C-T-7 is rather warm and emotional. They don't have much in common at all other than the generic 2C/PEA feel. IMO, 2C-E is more comparable to LSD while 2C-T-7 is comparable to mescaline (at least going by the descriptions - I haven't tried mescaline myself).
i snorted 20 mg, i will be honest i weighed out two 10 mg lines and snorted them both by mistake. mate was like u will be fine i tried getting it all out me nose but half hour later my mate picking me up off me bed said i was pacing up down the room and just blacked out , he said i began convulsing so he grabbed me because i smashed my hip off the bed, i could feel my head vibrating and thought i was gone but realised i was still alive and i had taken a drug so i open my eyes and my friend was looking over me like i was a ghost
it was really scary, still hasnt put me off any sort of phen or trypt..
i really would like to get me hands on 2C-E one day, i love all the 2C's like 2C-B, I, T-21, T-7 but i would love a deep trip that lsd can give but with 2C-E
i really would like to get me hands on 2C-E one day, i love all the 2C's like 2C-B, I, T-21, T-7 but i would love a deep trip that lsd can give but with 2C-E
Whatsamatau
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I should stop using shorthand, I meant 2C-T-2
Oh damn I forgot that 2C-T-7 got Schedule 1. Getting senile too!
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Oh, sorry. No, unfortunately I have no experience with T2. From what I understand, it can be more serious mentally than T7, but also with more physical side effects. Frankly, I don't think I'll ever have the desire to try it unless T7 becomes unavailable.
Yeah, no surprise there about the emergency scheduling by DEA that followed the death cases.
Yeah, no surprise there about the emergency scheduling by DEA that followed the death cases.
Yes 2C-T-7 is wonderful, so very rich - that is the best description I can give - it's like a feast for the senses, healing and warm for your emotional being and while it's not blatantly fun and toy-like as some other lighter 2C's are it's certainly enjoyable and beautiful.
I can get a bit queasy in the first half but it's more than worth it, that should also tell you something about how worthwhile it is.
Never felt threatening to me but I only take it orally and built up/titrated the dose very very carefully in the beginning. It's benign that way but give it a bunch of tries since the results can vary more than with other 2C's !!!
I feel that if you take this unpredictability into account plus the fact that there is not a huge margin of error it explains many if not all reports. People overshoot the mark so easily or just go about snorting the stuff even though there so many adverse reactions... It's like: no wonder it get such a bad rap!
Just, be careful for gods sake. Who cares that other 2C's are less difficult to keep within bounds, or are more forgiving when taken nasally or in heavy combination? 2C-T's are different anyway!
I can get a bit queasy in the first half but it's more than worth it, that should also tell you something about how worthwhile it is.
Never felt threatening to me but I only take it orally and built up/titrated the dose very very carefully in the beginning. It's benign that way but give it a bunch of tries since the results can vary more than with other 2C's !!!
I feel that if you take this unpredictability into account plus the fact that there is not a huge margin of error it explains many if not all reports. People overshoot the mark so easily or just go about snorting the stuff even though there so many adverse reactions... It's like: no wonder it get such a bad rap!
Just, be careful for gods sake. Who cares that other 2C's are less difficult to keep within bounds, or are more forgiving when taken nasally or in heavy combination? 2C-T's are different anyway!
tyrael
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I should be acquiring some T7 shortly, my questions are;
-What is the bio-availability sublingually? I'm not after an exact figure, just curious as I'd rather not insuffulate (due to the deaths occuring when railing) however I would think that the bio-availability would be similar to insuffulating (due to both areas being high vascular).
-If the availability isn't the same, what dosage would one suggest if I were to use the sublingually route? (if it is the same, I would use erowid as a dosage guide)
The capsules I'm getting are 27.5mg and, seen as it's an RC and I haven't used it before. I was thinking about opening it up and titrating my dose so I see how I go before consuming such large amount.
-What is the bio-availability sublingually? I'm not after an exact figure, just curious as I'd rather not insuffulate (due to the deaths occuring when railing) however I would think that the bio-availability would be similar to insuffulating (due to both areas being high vascular).
-If the availability isn't the same, what dosage would one suggest if I were to use the sublingually route? (if it is the same, I would use erowid as a dosage guide)
The capsules I'm getting are 27.5mg and, seen as it's an RC and I haven't used it before. I was thinking about opening it up and titrating my dose so I see how I go before consuming such large amount.
delphium
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Erm, I really, really would not try to administer T-7 or any other phen sublingually. The bitterness I think would be almost nauseating in and of itself, and 2C-T-7 is already rough on the tummy. If you're really determined to reduce come-up time/dose, rectal administration is the way to go with this one. Same potency and timeline as intranasal sans the excruciating pain that ROA entails.
I couldn't find much on this combo but I was kinda high when I decided to do it and it was a last minute decision.
2c-t-7 28mg and piracetam. 2400mg
also smoked jw-018 and haze mix for the sickness in the beginning, never threw up but only at a bagel earlier on in the day so i had nothing to throw up anyway.
tried to a couple times but i think it was reading so much about ppl puking that I think part of it was i was tripping.
so its was really cool. a lot of open eye visuals, kept thinking of 7 up so all my tracers were the 7up bottle color. music sounded great. lots of energy
while peaking there was lots of tracers, very vivid. at one point almost couldn't see things around the room there were so many. all the 7up color
comedown kinda sucked but i had some jams (opiates) later on so i felt great.
but the next day, woow, really tired. ate more piracetam but didn't keep me awake. maybe next time i can take all of vitamins (5-htp, piracetam, multi v etc)
i was at a friends house far away or i would of.
so yeah the two mix great would recommend it.
2c-t-7 28mg and piracetam. 2400mg
also smoked jw-018 and haze mix for the sickness in the beginning, never threw up but only at a bagel earlier on in the day so i had nothing to throw up anyway.
tried to a couple times but i think it was reading so much about ppl puking that I think part of it was i was tripping.
so its was really cool. a lot of open eye visuals, kept thinking of 7 up so all my tracers were the 7up bottle color. music sounded great. lots of energy
while peaking there was lots of tracers, very vivid. at one point almost couldn't see things around the room there were so many. all the 7up color
comedown kinda sucked but i had some jams (opiates) later on so i felt great.
but the next day, woow, really tired. ate more piracetam but didn't keep me awake. maybe next time i can take all of vitamins (5-htp, piracetam, multi v etc)
i was at a friends house far away or i would of.
so yeah the two mix great would recommend it.