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No offence but why do the mods in the american section allow them to be rated MDXX High? These are 95mg MDMA, now tested. High is ment to be 120mg+ so why change it, all it does is add to confusion. Then when a proper High MDMA pill comes about people are used to double dropping these which they think are high.. and WHAMMM... they've overdosed!

It was like in the dutch section even mods were rating 85mg as MDMA high, because of the, "average MDMA content in pills going down." It doesnt matter whether the average goes down, that doesnt effect the dose you need stays the same. High means a high dose, not high for the times.
 
^Its quite hard for a lot of people to know what is a high dose MDMA pill as they may never have had one. When a lot of the pills are around 40/50 mgs then a 95mg pill is quite high (not high compared to what they were) but still high. Its a tricky one to gauge/change/report when were talking about a persons experience on a pill? Were stuck really as its hard to say 3hours is high, 2 hours med etc ? Suggestions are more than welcome -
 
RavenousBlonde said:
EcstasyData is not allowed to post the mgs because of their agreement with the DEA/local law enforcement for testing pills. I doubt you'd get far with the DEA, either. ;) lol
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That agreement is retarted! What is the purpose of the DEA posting milligram results in their publication? Why would one legitimate organization be allowed to post milligrams while another one can't?

Knowing how many milligrams are in a pill can be big harm reducing factor. It's called knowing how much drug is in your pill so you'll be able to calculate your dose accordingly. Suppose some pill has a massive dose of MDMA and someone double drops and Wham; they took too much.

Ecstasydata should be allowed to publish milligrams. Typical hypocritical, illogical government bullshit.
 
Bearlove said:
^Its quite hard for a lot of people to know what is a high dose MDMA pill as they may never have had one. When a lot of the pills are around 40/50 mgs then a 95mg pill is quite high (not high compared to what they were) but still high. Its a tricky one to gauge/change/report when were talking about a persons experience on a pill? Were stuck really as its hard to say 3hours is high, 2 hours med etc ? Suggestions are more than welcome -
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I know what you mean. I've done crystal in many varying doses and usually the guesses in my reports are pretty accurate, but like you say many people havent had really strong pills.

Just annoys me when I see people putting down high for 80-90mg hearts, high for me is 120+ if not its not really a full enough dose so you need 2!
 
Yeah, I agree with that. If you need more than 1 pill it's not a high dose. 120mg is a lot of people's sweet spot and if you need more than 1 pill to get there it's not "high". MDxx high should be reserved for the 1 pill rolls.
 
I understand everyone's point on the MDxx High debate, but since every user experience is subjective, and we have no way of actually figuring out the mgs of the pill, we leave it open for the user to convey.
 
In all fairness we (the Mods) ask all the time for details in reports:

Peak, length of roll etc.

If somebody says High MDMA - peak 30 mins rolled for 2 hours you know its not high dose etc. The report generally gives more information than the drop down options.
 
37,954 tablets

That's terrible, that means that there are now 37,954 LESS high quality rolls on the street. Thank you DEA for forcing more people to buy shitty pipes.
 
^That's exactly what they did. They didn't curb the availability of "ecstasy" they just curbed the availability of clean MDMA ecstasy. :|

When is the DEA going to hit a reality check where they realize seizing stuff is only a minor blip in the availability spectrum and by taking the clean stuff of the street they're increasing harm by having people buy the cut shit instead. When they marquis a batch of pills and it turns black, let them stay out there. If they come across a batch of piperazines or methbombs; by all means seize that shit so no one will get scammed into buying it when they are trying to buy MDMA.

If I ran the DEA I would be very selective in my seizures. Legit MDMA stays out there, adulterated pills get yanked and the producers get thrown in the clink. :)
 
No wonder those lavender bombs were such fucking GOOD pills, 95mg MDMA each + ketamine. NICE :)
But I agree its such a shame ~38,000 good pills are now gone...leaving ample room for piperazines and dirty pills to rule the market. fail
 
^^^ I certainly didn't feel any of the k in these pills, but I'm not complaining that it was there :D
 
tekkeN said:
Shame the DEA got their hands on so many though :|
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First thing I thought when I saw it...STILL CAN'T GET MY HANDS ON THESE OIJUrowijfo092u5!

Sometimes I wish the DEA would get their hands on more variety...shall I say. Lol. Free testing ftw.
 
aahaha I knew it, less then 100 mgs, and some caffiene. These were considered highs, I guess the market these days these are high. The only ones I could say that have been high this past year are Purple Whales, and Yellow Dolphins. Old school ills that weighed alot more for being single stack, forgot the exact weight, but remember atleast 60 more mgs
 
Cosmic Charlie said:
Why do they even put ketamine in pills. It works horribly when taken orally.
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Because K+MDMA is a more intense experience than MDMA by itself, and that way I imagine someone thought they would get a corner of the rolls market by giving people K+MDMA rolls, and they would be all like "whoa these are so intense" compared to the standard rolls that only have mdma I guess.

I agree with you that ketamine works horribly when taken orally; I prefer IV ketamine to any other ROA.

Bearlove said:
^Its quite hard for a lot of people to know what is a high dose MDMA pill as they may never have had one.
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This is the truth.

For me, to call 80-90 mg mdma a "high" content is laughable. I'm used to getting 200mg mdma, and wouldn't expect anything less.

ResinTeeth said:
37,954 tablets

That's terrible, that means that there are now 37,954 LESS high quality rolls on the street. Thank you DEA for forcing more people to buy shitty pipes.
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I don't know about you...but I wouldn't buy those things. That's a medium MDMA content at best.

uniter said:
^That's exactly what they did. They didn't curb the availability of "ecstasy" they just curbed the availability of clean MDMA ecstasy. :|
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It wasn't clean MDMA ecstasy though! There was ketamine in it. No offense, but if I was trying to combine MDMA and K, I would want just MDMA in my rolls, so I can titrate how much K I use. Why do I want someone else's K in my rolls?

and by taking the clean stuff of the street they're increasing harm by having people buy the cut shit instead.
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You think the government cares about your best interest? Nope.

They'd rather see you be poisoned by PEA than get a straight MDMA deal.
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
It wasn't clean MDMA ecstasy though! There was ketamine in it. No offense, but if I was trying to combine MDMA and K, I would want just MDMA in my rolls, so I can titrate how much K I use. Why do I want someone else's K in my rolls?
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Yeah, I know but compared to anything else going around they're considered clean. That much oral K would have absolutely no effect I would think. I totally agree that if MDMA crystal were the only thing available pills wouldn't even get a second glance.

You think the government cares about your best interest? Nope.

They'd rather see you be poisoned by PEA than get a straight MDMA deal.
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Phenethylamine? a poison? PEA in pills would just be pointless, it has no major pharmalogical effect. Most gets broken down by MAO and doesn't reach the brain, not to mention any effect it does give is not even in the same star system as MDMA.

Unless you meant PMA being a poison, then yeah, but I don't think the government would want to see PMA in pills. The health condition caused by it and the emergency room visit is just going to cost the taxpayer more money and put a life at risk. I know my government has the basic sense to not take it that far but they aren't setting up any state run Netherlands-modeled pill testing system.
 
Ketamines so expensive in comparison to mdma... why use it as a filler especially when thered have to be a shit load of it just to let you feel it.
 
i was wondering i have a few of these. . if I were to snort them would i feel the k?
im kinda scared i have never taken k. . .and if i take orally i wont feel it but will it give me any side effects?

thanks
 
rollingrainbow said:
i was wondering i have a few of these. . if I were to snort them would i feel the k?
im kinda scared i have never taken k. . .and if i take orally i wont feel it but will it give me any side effects?

thanks
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You would have to take a massive amount of them to feel any ketamine content. There's not enough in there to give you a high.
 
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