Kratom Questions/Suggestions

[Cadeblue]

I'm sure some of you are sick of talking about Kratom, but I do have a few questions. I have read all threads that I could find before asking these questions.

I have started taking it via capsules -- on average, I'm taking 8/600mg between 6a.m. & 10 a.m. then continue redosing throughout the day. I'm going to actually keep track of how much I'm really taking today.

How much is too much?

I have read lots about the darkening/brown discoloring of the face. How long before this occurs? Are we talking months of taking it or years? Is it permanent once it happens or will it go away if you quit taking the Kratom?

What about the appetite suppression? I haven't noticed it & I was hoping this would help w/ weight loss as well.

Thanks for any comments.

 

[Cadeblue]

Still absolutely NO appetite supression, but I'm also on Lyrica which increases my appetite, so maybe they are canceling each out.

I have found that this stuff just makes me feel NORMAL & HAPPY instead of depressed and not caring. It doesn't necessarily make me feel "high," it just makes me feel how I want to feel normally if that makes any sense.

 

[OxyMorph]

It always kills my appetite when i take it. I only took it a few times because i couldn't stand trying to get it down, but i might try it again sometime when i get some capsules. I usually stick with oxy b/c i get it free. I can't answer your other questions but im sure someone else can. Have fun and be safe.

 

[Coolio]

Cadeblue, sounds like you're taking tiny doses. I usually make a tea of 5 to 10 times that amount.

 

[Cadeblue]

Can you tell me how much is too much? I know I really shouldn't be taking it every day like I am, but right now I'm willing to deal w/ those consequences when the time comes. I just don't want to do too much damage to my body by doing WAY too much daily. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

 

[Coolio]

I haven't heard of any Westerners being harmed by kratom.

 

[Cadeblue]

Thank you for your response!

On another note, I REALLY need the appetite suppression to kick in -- my boss just told me that I'm gaining too much weight. Seriously . . . my husband is going to want to absolutely kick his ass when I tell him about this!!

 

[shaggy730420]

kratom= krapton

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
What kind of work do you do that your boss would be concerned about your weight? He must be an asshole. Anyway, I don't think that you are going to get much beneficial appetite supression from kratom. I used it for a number of months before I moved on to another quasi-legal opiate that I liked better. I personally believe that the darkening of the face thing is bullshit and just rumour.

In all of the months that I was using kratom I was usually a daily user, only stopping to reduce tolerance for a day or two. I used about 4 - 6 tablespoons of premium leaf. I never noticed appetite supression, not even from withdrawals.

I have found that this stuff just makes me feel NORMAL & HAPPY instead of depressed and not caring. It doesn't necessarily make me feel "high," it just makes me feel how I want to feel normally if that makes any sense.

Be careful, over time you will require larger doses to get to where you want to be. I had to up my dosage several times when I was a daily user until I finally leveled off around 5 tablespoons per day. I experienced mild withdrawals when I would go without. Kratom addiction is like a walk in the park compared to my addiction to poppy tea but it should still be respected. I never gave a shit about the negatives of using opiates on a daily basis but believe me when I say I wish I never started.

Best of luck to you.

 

[coleman318]

^^^
Be careful, over time you will require larger doses to get to where you want to be. I had to up my dosage several times when I was a daily user until I finally leveled off around 5 tablespoons per day. I experienced mild withdrawals when I would go without. Kratom addiction is like a walk in the park compared to my addiction to poppy tea but it should still be respected. I never gave a shit about the negatives of using opiates on a daily basis but believe me when I say I wish I never started.
Best of luck to you.

I'm assuming the quasi-legal opiate you moved to was poppy tea? Just wondering because you stated you moved to something you liked more.

 

[3dmusic]

kratom= krapton

Not when you've found your "sweet spot" but like Quasi says, it has to be respected.
Ive been taking it every day.
Today is a day when I am not on it.
I've taken it two or three days on the trot.
I feel too low when sober, everything is a drag. Why do I have these sober days? because I had a speed monkey on my back for years, and I couldn't stand the thought of another chimp climbing up there blagging a free ride.

 

[imahustler420]

kratom= krapton

Obviously never had quality leaf from a reliable vendor.

 

[shoolameet]

just a heads up, kratom tolerance builds pretty quickly (people usually note increased tolerance by the second or third day in a row of taking it) so the amount required to make you feel "normal and happy" is going to increase fast. you should really only use kratom once in a while or in times of desperation in my opinion.

 

[Coolio]

Anyone here tried kratom with ultra-low dose naloxone or naltrexone to prevent tolerance?

 

[txern41]

just wondering, can't find anything about plugging kratom caps. any opinions, could be fifth way of taking it.

 

[daddict]

just wondering, can't find anything about plugging kratom caps. any opinions, could be fifth way of taking it.

You can as well plug plain leaves - it would have the same effect ...

Kratom comes in "powdered leaves" form - the dried plain leaf is just powdered. It won't dissolve and you would need water or some kind of acid to extract the alcaloids from it.

 

[txern41]

can anyone give advice on how to potentiate kratom caps with grapefruit juice. usually they say 45 mins before taken orally. but caps take longer to digest?