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Poppy Pod Overdose Question

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daddysgone

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hi
ive got a quick question about the nature of an overdose from poppy pods. I usually make a tea from about 12 jumbo pods, however today, i did not have time to brew the tea and instead just ate the grounds whole. I know that eating the grounds is more potent, so instead of using 12 pods like i do with tea, i only used 6 pods.
Now, i discovered that eating the grounds of six pods is MUCH stronger then making a tea from 12. When i make a tea from 12, i feel great. No nausea and absolutely no sedation at all...in fact it makes me kinda hyper. However, as i said, i ATE the grounds from 6 pods today, and im getting nervous.
I ate the grounds about 12 hours ago, and i am still absolutely stoned. I thew up twice, and am very very drowsy. Unless i really concentrate, I am having double vision. Overall, i am just worried that i might be in danger of an OD, as i feel very very different from what i usually feel from my tea. As i said, im extremely drowsy, but im trying to keep myself awake because im worried about respiratory depression if i fall asleep.
I did not take any other drugs or alcohol today, and as i said, i ate the grounds over 12 hours ago.
so, am i in any danger of an OD? i would have thought that if i was in danger of an OD, it would have occured mcuh earlier (considering i took the grounds 12 hours ago). However, the fact remains that i DO feel extremely drowsy and am having dbl vision. Anyone have any ideas?
 
You do need to stay awake until the effects have lessened a bit. It would be a good idea. FWIW, if eating them is twice as strong as tea for you, then you are making your tea wrong. Eating them is definitely stronger, but should not be double. What you are experiencing is "the nod", albeit a strong one. I've had the double vision before. Hang in there and report back once you are ok.
 
i used to eat pods every day, of course i never increased my dose over 2 (jumbo) pods... except this one time. i ate 4 pods then went with some friends out to eat... my face literally fell in my seafood linguine every 2 minutes. my friends were laughing their asses off but i could not even muster a laugh let alone a smile. sure i was high as hell and i felt great but it was just too much.

i know exactly how you're feeling and even though pods are more potent than tea, it is a totally different high. i won't go into it 'cause you pretty much described it perfectly (i'm guessing you can't hold down food or liquid either?).

but yeah like 'Driven said just stay awake until the heaviness has let off a bit and you'll be alright (assuming you've got a good tolerance if you can handle a 12-pod tea). however if you think, even for a second, you might be in danger of an OD don't hesitate to call 911. of course, AT THE VERY LEAST you should call up a friend and have 'em hang out with you until you know you're fine. i've had several scary experiences with pods and just not being alone helps the anxiety if nothing else... call a friend!
 
thanks for the responses. im fine now. i stayed awake as long as i could and then dozed off when i felt the effects were lightening up a bit. im just shocked the effects from eating 5 was SO much stronger then the effects i get from making a tea of 12. As i said, this was my first time eating the grounds whole as opposed to making tea. What i found so odd was that not only were the grounds so much stronger, but the effects were very very different from the effects i get from tea. MUCH heavier body load and much much much more sedation. when i make tea, i feel energetic. eating the grounds made me unable to keep my eyes open. strange indeed. any theories as to why there is such a subjective difference here?
 
Oral Morphine overdose is a prolonged process that takes hours to result in death. Wheezing or snoring while nodding or while sleeping/unconscious is a red flag for overdose. Nausea, trouble catching your breathe, and:

Symptoms

Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
Pinpoint pupils
Gastrointestinal system
Spasms of the stomach or intestinal tract
Nausea
Vomiting
Constipation
Heart and blood vessels
Weak pulse
Low blood pressure
Nervous system
Drowsiness
Coma
Possible seizures
Respiratory system
Difficulty breathing
Slow and labored breathing
Shallow breathing
No breathing temporarily
Skin
Bluish-colored fingernails and lips
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http://www.healthline.com/adamcontent/morphine-overdose

Definitely have someone, in person, watch you for awhile, and if they feel any doubt have them call an ambulance.

I just saw your last response that you are fine now (hours later). Do not get the wrong impression, that was an over dose of Morphine. It doesn't have to be fatal to be real.

This is a big problem with illicit and fluctating materials. The amount of Morphine in a gram of ground poppy straw can vary so heavily that its shocking more people don't keel over from PPT more often.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They are legal for "crafts", you could always use them another way though ;)

P.S. No sourcing is allowed here, all I can say is a quick google search will have your answer in .2 seconds :)
 
They are still illegal for crafts because they contain scheduled substances. This law is simply not enforced so they are de facto legal.
 
This is 100% true! I have found that a tea follwing the recepie on erowid for poppy pod tea (20 minutes infusion time, etc) with 6-8 pods simply gets me 'relaxed' with slightly heavy eyes and such as well its pretty much all that happens is a simple relaxed feeling.

However when I take say 2 pods orally or even 1 pod-1 1/2 pods I can feel a whole lot more going on and if i take more than 2- 2 1/2 pods then I am seriously nodding. I ate about 3-4 pods really quickly and it was VERY hard for me to stand straight on my chair without nodding. On another occasion I was nodding so hard from the grinds I had eaten (mabye 4-5 pods) that I noded out and fell asleep standing up on my couch till my dad found me and simply pushed me like a log on the side.

I was very shocked when this happend, initially I thought I had gotten much stronger pods than last time but really it was due to eating them whole. They are very intense taken like that and they last much longer oviously.

I have had the tea mabye 2-3 times now and I believe that everytime I had the tea I had eaten at least 1 pod straight. Once actually I made tea from the leftovers from the first tea and I hadn't eaten any pods. I got just relaxed and that was it, more like a codeine type of high while eating them gave me the most sedating feeling I have ever gotten of any opiate. As well the feeling from eating them is HEAVY/STRONG and you can get a 'body load' where its best to lay down and such.
 
bpayne said:
Arent poppy pods illegal? how would one acquire them?
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You can't ask where to get drugs on here unless you want to be banned. And pods are 100% illegal. Poppy pods/straw are scheduled substances in the united states.
 
I usually nod really hard from about 8 jumbo pods - to make tea I just hot (not boiling) water, and I do at least two steepings depending on the water's color. I then add lemon or lime juice - this makes the tea easier to drink and gives me less nausea, and for some strange reason it seems to make the tea a tiny bit stronger, but I'm not sure. I also take 60mg DXM when I start drinking the tea.

I've puked from the tea a few times - pod tea hits you slowly and just keeps building up it seems.

Also, as an aside, I've noticed that my constipation is much worse from the tea than other opiates - anyone else get this?
 
My very first communicay...
I used a cheese grater to up the surface area subject to my very first Tea. 'That happened the evening of July 29, 1999 (no sh*#). I have never stopped.
I came to this "Discovery" in of all places the Viro Beach, FL Public Library when a particular "Book" sitting in the stacks caught my attention on the way to the Can. Yes, a Library Book taught me how to get to the stratosphere on one glass & lasting well over two, even three days! (at first!)
When I began Popppy Tea, it was hardly more than a few hundred, maybe a thousand in the shadows across America. Most recent grads were still giggling over a new 'party drug.' However, be careful with this; cravings for me began immediately.(two weeks & she had me)
I experienced W/D once (2002), for just FOUR days. I would rather have been Broken on the Wheel in 14th century Bavaria. It was not bad, it was'nt Hellish, it was Actually Hell, 9th circle (four days, just four days!)
Differing reactions to same opiate: One friend took to with me, and 'twas lovely first time, every time (untill you reach the "plateau effect", afterwhich U just chase a 'Fix'), while another puked it up and stayed with beer, no thankyou!. Another said he didn't feel anything!
Every retailer, distributor, etc. is different, with Miss Emma (morphine) content anywhere from 9 to almost 20 percent (and differ year by year),.. then there are the other 40 alkyls!
Back in 1999 and 2000, 2001 MANY Pods literally had GLOBS like paint of jet black OPUM running down from outside the crown & seeping down the stalk. Was Crazy! Never seen em since then with such globules peppering the outside of the POD.
That Cali retailer exists no more (not sure why?).
1. Constipation (slackening peristaltic waves in yer ....) NEVER ceases with Tea, never even lets up. Ever.
2. To OD on Tea/gustatory intake is highly difficult to do. I puked once in ten years of daily use,.. feels crappy, but no aspirin/acetaminophen means OD as in DOA is IMO Very Difficult. You'd have to really want it Bad! I can't imagine what the LD50 would be (The dose at which Half your cohort has checked out Belushi style.)
Gonna try Eating right now after eleven years of Teabaggin it!!
I thought Morph and all the goodies were ALL water soluble! So, making the Tea I thought was all U needed!!??
This should be strange (I have always used a good coffee grinder). Prost, or not.
Smurfs up!
 
^out of curiosity... after using for 10 years how have your doses changed? Hopefully you measure your doses in grams or at least Tbsp or something, but if you only measure in pods can you give a q and approximate circumferance?

I haven't heard of anyone using pods for a decade so this really interests me... have you had any pod-related health problems? Has your use cost you anything like jobs, friends, etc or are you pretty well-maintained?
 
You'd probably have to leave the US to find solid information about both PPT and PST (as far as long term and social/culture effects). It's been used as a recreational drug in the Soviet gulag prison system since it was established; and was used in the same fashion in the pre-USSR Tsarist Siberian labor camp system (which would become the Soviet gulag) for a long time before that.
 
The one time I "overdosed" on pod tea, I was a nodding/shitting/shaking/vomiting mess for a good 5 hours. I invited a friend over that day to go to the casino with, only to have him sit there and watch me nod out every 2 minutes inbetween trips to the bathroom to puke, until he got fed up and left.

Good times :\
 
I would really like to know a few questions,

1. Wikepedia states that the most a poppy pod can contain is up to 12% morphine!
Does that mean a gram of powdered poppy pod grinds contain (at the very most) 120mg of morphine?

2. How much would (on average) be the content of 1. Morphine and 2. Codeine in 1 gram of poppy grinds?

p.s. I am aware that pods vary in alkaloid content very much from one to another!
 
muie said:
I would really like to know a few questions,

1. Wikepedia states that the most a poppy pod can contain is up to 12% morphine!
Does that mean a gram of powdered poppy pod grinds contain (at the very most) 120mg of morphine?

2. How much would (on average) be the content of 1. Morphine and 2. Codeine in 1 gram of poppy grinds?

p.s. I am aware that pods vary in alkaloid content very much from one to another!
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1.) you must have misunderstood whatever you read (or it was just wrong info) because a gram of OPIUM typically contains ~10% morphine. poppy pods are definitely not opium...

2.) i'm not sure about the codeine but from the research i've done on the subject dried pods seem to have anywhere between 0.2-0.5% morphine by weight. commercially available pods i've come across seem to have a morphine content closer to <0.2%, which would give a gram of dried poppy grinds ~2mg morphine.
 
Poppy pods does not contain 12% morphine. Something like 0.1-0.5% seems like a more realistic estimate.


EDIT: CretiNation already gave better and more extensive answer above.
 
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