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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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DOC shouldn't have cross-tolerance with tryptamines, at least not significant. Have you ever tried a DOX before? 3-3.5mg might be pretty intense, but provided you're used to strong experiences you should probably be fine.

Regarding timing, I'd time it for the comeup to be about 2 hours... you'll start feeling it much sooner though. It's going to last a LONG time... hopefully you'll have people to hang out with or at least something to do afterwards and don't plan to sleep. Hour 8 and on is when it starts getting especially social in nature... it's probably my favorite part.

Definitely keep using that arginine and you should be fine physically. :)
 
Thanks for the info Xorkoth, it was pretty helpful. I wound up taking about 2.8mg there abouts, maybe as high as 3 though certainly nothing more. The come up left me feeling a little nausea but it wasn't terrible. I was enjoying the subtle visuals while on the subway. What was really horrible was the numbness in my butt cheeks. It started about three hours after ingestion (sublingual). Even with the L-arginine, the vasoconstriction got to me; i think I took about 2.4grams of the stuff before giving up. The feeling reminded me way too much of Bromo-Dragonfly and so, while I wasn't at all panicked, I just wasn't having fun. I wound up taking 2mg of clonazepam just to lighten my mood and loosen me up and it worked wonders. Had a blast after that. The DOC was still stimulating enough to keep the K-pin from knocking me on my ass. I guess the DOx family and it's derivatives just aren't for me. I might try it again in the distant future but for now, it is retired.
Thanks again for the help.
 
Well glad you had a blast at some point. If you ever do try it again, you might try a lower dose, like 1.5 or 1.75mg. I usually use this sort of dose nowadays for a much lighter trip that still contains that euphoric, social tail end plateau I mentioned. The vasoconstriction is less and it's generally lighter. Also, there's a supplement you can buy legally called phenibut, which is a GABAergic substance that lasts a long time and is a bit benzo-like, a bit reminiscent of GHB... basically it loosens you up and makes you feel talkative and nice. I often take a dose of that, say 1.5-2 grams, to combine with low-dose DOC... nice combo, more euphoric and it cuts a bit of the weird feeling that DOC can have at first.

Anyway, glad to have helped a bit. :)
 
dyed-in-the-wool

if you describe someone as dyed-in-the-wool, you mean they have very strong opinions and will not change (always before noun) He's a dyed-in-the-wool traditionalist where cooking is concerned - he won't have any modern gadgets in the kitchen.

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I'd imagine he just meant a "true" full-on psychedelic as opposed to some of the lighter ones - 2C-B, for example.
 
^ Thank you
But doesn't that seem redundant when he had already called it an archetypal psychedelic earlier on in the pihkal entry?

Does anyone have experience with combining DOC and 2C-T-2 or a 4-sub tryptamine?
 
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But doesn't that seem redundant when he had already called it an archetypal psychedelic earlier on in the pihkal entry?
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Pretty much redundant, but it's not that unusual for people to get a bit creative when describing things, I suppose. There's any number of words and phrases he could have used so I presume he just wanted to not say "archetypal" again and chose that one cos he liked it. Doubt there's any deeper meaning to it.
 
What's a recommended dose for a music festival? I am very experienced with psychedelic states but I don't want to be lost in my own world while there is so much to see, hear, and socialize.
 
i remember eating 5 or 6mg at a festival 4 years ago.
Not recomended but i certainly had a great time.

I was Listening to Ween for the first time while dosed out on DOC. I wasnt sure whether to believe what i was hearing or not.
Good times....
<3

DOC is definately a good festival drug, but go with the doses recomended above.
 
I would not combine at all. DOC isn't that stimulating usually... in fact I find it relaxing most of the time. But cocaine would mix badly I think. Just feels like it, though I've never tried it.

Gotta say... today I got my first true taste of DOM, and I think it's bumped DOC off the top spot for my favorite substance. But I still love DOC too. :)
 
Myehh... what's up DOC? ;)

Hopefully will be getting some soon, although I'm beginning to suspect I'z been scammed. Injustice!
 
ya, fuck getting scammed with doc.

Are you sure they didnt call it lsd? thats curious......lol

Thats how you get scammed.

All the lsd I ever bought was lsd aside from two types of RC filled gel-tabs(and gel tabs are usually made by the best).
and yes I can tell the fucking difference ya custies.

I love the dox chems, but its nothing like lsd.

Custies fuck up the whole thing.
They cant tell the difference between mda and lsd for gods sake, so why not sell them to other cust as such?.

Its sad.

Pathetic
 
Does my normal dose of doc - 3mg will show possitive amphetamine on urine drug test?
 
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