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^^^^ Doubt the recommendation to traffick will remain up here for long.

looks like you got about 2 points left. hard to tell 'cause the pics are blurry judging by the slight moisture it would prob. be pseudo speed, seen it that tinge of brown plenty of times. no doubt cut though if you didn't get much from it - depending on your own tolerance of course.
 
hyroller said:
PD - not to understate your extensive knowledge on all things chem-related, but the physical effects yielded by 'P2P'-synthed meth are dramatically different to that of it's alternate variety.
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He explained to you quite easily meth can be synthed via many routes and can be either d-meth or l,d-meth. Hell even l-meth lets around sometimes (which is very weak). Smell just means there is solvents left over in it.
 
Before phase_dancer cleared up this funny talk on ketone-meth and psudo-meth really meaning dextro methamp and racemic methamp I thought you guys were saying ketone-meth meaning the beta ketone of methamp ie. methcathinone.

I have only a little experience in street speed products but I have seen at least 3 distinct products (usually cut with MSM). Here's a rundown of the the products I have seen in the past. Please feel free to let me know what you think they are ect.

I've had a yellowish orange rock in Melbourne similar to the coca-cola rock in the picture from last page. I thought this stuff was methcathinone. Regular users of shard (methamp) didn't rate the feeling from this stuff even though it kept them awake and was strong enough. I have only seen pictures of methcathinone being a yellowish or orangey rock and heard it has a strong smell. This stuff sure did. A lot of the smell vanished after storage but it still had the cat piss smell when smoked. It got my heart really racing like shards (methamp) but didn't last quite as long and was not so fun. I was very awake but more a tweaked out paranoid kinda feel and made my vision a little blurry. Is this stuff methcathinone? It would make sense if it is around amid an absence of more quality product if it is methcathinone as the guides on the net describe it as easy enough to cook in your kitchen with minimal ingredients.:\

The other stuff I've had is the general white or yellowish white gooey powder. Nice sweet smell and sweet flavour to smoke (this could be moreso from the MSM not sure). The stronger the stuff usually it's usually more gooey and burns for much longer without so much frosting the pipe (I think this it simply base that I have seen in Sydney but just cut with MSM). I've only eaten base in Sydney once and gave me a similar warm, fairly relaxed, chatty feeling. Smoking this powder speed doesn't make my heart pound like crazy (as with shard). If I do it as home in a relaxed enviroment, I usually feel, warm, relaxed and even a sleepy after smoking it but still awake. It lasts the shortest of the 3 but I find I if I top up regularly I can stay awake for days on it without all the paranoia/sketchyess/worn out feelings of shard (methamp). I believe this stuff is amphetamine probably amphetamine freebase.

Lastly there is shard, I've seen it as clear/translucent long thin crystals I've also seen it as shorter crystals like long rice grains with a yellowish tinge though this was weaker. I've also come accross powder speed that appears by look and by the amount of frosting of the pipe to be high in MSM yet this is strong speed and last a long time and with more anxiety/paranoia. I assume its shard crushed with a lot of MSM. All in all shard, at least the more pure looking clear crystal stuff is not to my liking. I get a pounding heart. Usually I get a rush from the first smoke that makes my head feel spacey and really dizzy but only for 20sec or something. I then feel very alert, clear headed, serious, anxious, paranoid, can't relax or calm down. There is more or a serious feel than the gooey speed above (wich is more fun). I often feel like it upsets my stomach too. No further top ups and I am still awake for 10-12hrs from only a little. I usually feel very dirty, worn out and sketchy around 6-8hrs after as I just can not relax despite all efforts. I would guess this is methamphetamine.e
 
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Before phase_dancer cleared up this funny talk on ketone-meth and psudo-meth really meaning dextro methamp and racemic methamp I thought you guys were saying ketone-meth meaning the beta ketone of methamp ie. methcathinone.
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An example of why we should try and limit the use of street slang and instead use scientific terms.


It lasts the shortest of the 3 but I find I if I top up regularly I can stay awake for days on it without all the paranoia/sketchyess/worn out feelings of shard (methamp). I believe this stuff is amphetamine probably amphetamine freebase.
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Amphetamine freebase is a liquid. 1mL would produce ~ 1.36g of the sulphate salt.
 
Ekstasis-//7 said:
Before phase_dancer cleared up this funny talk on ketone-meth and psudo-meth really meaning dextro methamp and racemic methamp I thought you guys were saying ketone-meth meaning the beta ketone of methamp ie. methcathinone.

I have only a little experience in street speed products but I have seen at least 3 distinct products (usually cut with MSM). Here's a rundown of the the products I have seen in the past. Please feel free to let me know what you think they are ect.

I've had a yellowish orange rock in Melbourne similar to the coca-cola rock in the picture from last page. I thought this stuff was methcathinone. Regular users of shard (methamp) didn't rate the feeling from this stuff even though it kept them awake and was strong enough. I have only seen pictures of methcathinone being a yellowish or orangey rock and heard it has a strong smell. This stuff sure did. A lot of the smell vanished after storage but it still had the cat piss smell when smoked. It got my heart really racing like shards (methamp) but didn't last quite as long and was not so fun. I was very awake but more a tweaked out paranoid kinda feel and made my vision a little blurry. Is this stuff methcathinone? It would make sense if it is around amid an absence of more quality product if it is methcathinone as the guides on the net describe it as easy enough to cook in your kitchen with minimal ingredients.:\

The other stuff I've had is the general white or yellowish white gooey powder. Nice sweet smell and sweet flavour to smoke (this could be moreso from the MSM not sure). The stronger the stuff usually it's usually more gooey and burns for much longer without so much frosting the pipe (I think this it simply base that I have seen in Sydney but just cut with MSM). I've only eaten base in Sydney once and gave me a similar warm, fairly relaxed, chatty feeling. Smoking this powder speed doesn't make my heart pound like crazy (as with shard). If I do it as home in a relaxed enviroment, I usually feel, warm, relaxed and even a sleepy after smoking it but still awake. It lasts the shortest of the 3 but I find I if I top up regularly I can stay awake for days on it without all the paranoia/sketchyess/worn out feelings of shard (methamp). I believe this stuff is amphetamine probably amphetamine freebase.

Lastly there is shard, I've seen it as clear/translucent long thin crystals I've also seen it as shorter crystals like long rice grains with a yellowish tinge though this was weaker. I've also come accross powder speed that appears by look and by the amount of frosting of the pipe to be high in MSM yet this is strong speed and last a long time and with more anxiety/paranoia. I assume its shard crushed with a lot of MSM. All in all shard, at least the more pure looking clear crystal stuff is not to my liking. I get a pounding heart. Usually I get a rush from the first smoke that makes my head feel spacey and really dizzy but only for 20sec or something. I then feel very alert, clear headed, serious, anxious, paranoid, can't relax or calm down. There is more or a serious feel than the gooey speed above (wich is more fun). I often feel like it upsets my stomach too. No further top ups and I am still awake for 10-12hrs from only a little. I usually feel very dirty, worn out and sketchy around 6-8hrs after as I just can not relax despite all efforts. I would guess this is methamphetamine.e
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I didn't think amphetamine sulphate exists here in australia :/ Or that's what I've always been led to believe.

Just a thought, but are you dosing the same on both the 'speed' and the shards? Because generally shards are much stronger, so if you're finding smoking a point of speed gets you feeling nice, then you go and smoke the same amount of shards which actually contains twice as much actual meth, then you'd get a big hit and end up anxious and paranoid and unable to sleep for a long time. Maybe that accounts for the difference in effects?

I always found with shards that less is more, though I usualy had decent shit and would munch down magnesium to (allegedly) help keep my tolerance down. I'd smoke half a point (at least back when I first started) and that'd keep me nicely wired for the next few hours if it was good stuff, instead of smoking a point or two and launching into paranoiaville.

No idea what that orange rock stuff is, never seen anything like it.
 
Crankinit said:
I didn't think amphetamine sulphate exists here in australia :/ Or that's what I've always been led to believe.

Just a thought, but are you dosing the same on both the 'speed' and the shards? Because generally shards are much stronger, so if you're finding smoking a point of speed gets you feeling nice, then you go and smoke the same amount of shards which actually contains twice as much actual meth, then you'd get a big hit and end up anxious and paranoid and unable to sleep for a long time. Maybe that accounts for the difference in effects?

I always found with shards that less is more, though I usualy had decent shit and would munch down magnesium to (allegedly) help keep my tolerance down. I'd smoke half a point (at least back when I first started) and that'd keep me nicely wired for the next few hours if it was good stuff, instead of smoking a point or two and launching into paranoiaville.

No idea what that orange rock stuff is, never seen anything like it.
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Sulphate is deff round. Not in big quantities but still available if u know the right people.

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mmm how i missed that good ol sulphate lol

The texture of it is a bit wet and easily mouldable. Smells very strong and melts in ur mouth.

Much better high than meth. Nice mellow euphoria and heaps speedier. It doesnt make my eyes fuked like meth where one eye is closed the other is half opened n rolled back hahaha

Makes me do laps in the house n talk to random people on the street:)
 
Honestly it just looks like wet flour to me :p Now a baggy of nice chunky, translucent shards on the other hand, and I can almost taste the smoke :D
 
Yeah, I've always done well with shards, whereas any base/powder has been pretty hit and miss. And I find shards a lot more fun for smoking/snorting, which I guess is where the preference comes in.

I miss speed ahah. Just wish I wasn't too paranoid about the side effects to get back into it a bit.
 
Crankinit said:
Yeah, I've always done well with shards, whereas any base/powder has been pretty hit and miss. And I find shards a lot more fun for smoking/snorting, which I guess is where the preference comes in.

I miss speed ahah. Just wish I wasn't too paranoid about the side effects to get back into it a bit.
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Yeah shards would be good too, wouldnt mind trying to shoot it once just to see whats all this hype about lol

I guess if there isnt any mdma well then its got to be speed haha
 
I always figured is shooting is as much of an improvement over smoking as smoking is over snorting, then I'd never want to go back to the pipe and be stuck with needles, which is impractical and kinda dangerous, so I just stayed away.

Yeah it sucks about the whole MDMA scene currently. I've been tempted to jump back into the rave scene for a bit, but it's a bit of a buzzkill knowing how much dodgy shit there is out there.
 
Depends on the person - i've done copious amounts of ice/speed any which way, and to be honest nothing beats smoking shards... i mean shooting it is fairly intense but you wouldn't want to feel like that all the time.

Smoking is good cause you can control your high & get there in your own time. and it gives you a heck of a lot more to do with your hands. lol
 
Crankinit said:
I always figured is shooting is as much of an improvement over smoking as smoking is over snorting, then I'd never want to go back to the pipe and be stuck with needles, which is impractical and kinda dangerous, so I just stayed away.

Yeah it sucks about the whole MDMA scene currently. I've been tempted to jump back into the rave scene for a bit, but it's a bit of a buzzkill knowing how much dodgy shit there is out there.
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personally i enjoy the process of smoking it, and watching the smoke twirl in the pipe. The process is enough for me to keep doing the same method :p
 
Yeah, I'd take all of my drugs via crackpipe if I could :p it's just so damn fun melting shit in there and watching the smoke swirl around through the pipe.
 
I had a water pipe going there for a while...
good long time ago this was. that shit was insane. lol

my D had a multi-chambered pipe that he would keep rearranging...
it struck me as some kind of illicit lego or duplo set. lol
 
Ahah that's mad. Massive waterpipe crackie. I'd be worried about damaging it once my hands got a bit twitchy though.

Though I do have one complaint, why do they not make crackies for left handers :X So inconsiderate! they all curve over to the right so I have use my right hand for the lighter or hold it in a kinda awkward position.
 
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