Why Antidepressants Don't Live Up to the Hype

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By John Cloud
Time.com
Wednesday, May 06, 2009

In the '90s, Americans grew fond of the idea that you can fix depression simply by taking a pill — most famously fluoxetine (better known as Prozac), though fluoxetine is just one of at least seven selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) that have been prescribed to treat hundreds of millions of people around the world.

But in the past few years, researchers have challenged the effectiveness of Prozac and other SSRIs in several studies. For instance, a review published in the Journal of Affective Disorders in February attributed 68% of the benefit from antidepressants to the placebo effect. Likewise, a paper published in PLoS Medicine a year earlier suggested that widely used SSRIs, including Prozac, Effexor and Paxil, offer no clinically significant benefit over placebos for patients with moderate or severe depression. Meanwhile, pharmaceutical companies maintain that their research shows that SSRIs are powerful weapons against depression. (Here's a helpful blog post that summarizes the debate.)

Now a major new study suggests that both critics and proponents might be right about SSRIs: the drugs can work, but they appear to work best for only a subset of depressed patients — those with a limited range of psychological problems. People whose depression is compounded with, say, substance abuse or a personality disorder may not get much help from SSRIs — which is unfortunate for the 45% to 60% of patients in the U.S. who have been diagnosed with a common mental disorder like depression and also meet the criteria for at least one other disorder, like substance abuse. (Multiple diagnoses are known in medical parlance as comorbidities.)

The new study, published online in April by the American Journal of Psychiatry, was conducted using data from a large, government-funded trial called Sequenced Treatment Alternatives to Relieve Depression, which usually goes by the moniker STAR*D. The STAR*D project, which collected data from 2001 to 2004 at 41 U.S. psychiatric facilities, was one of the most ambitious efforts ever to understand how best to treat people with major depression. STAR*D participants comprise a powerful research sample because they are highly representative of all depressed Americans. Very few depressed people were excluded from STAR*D; only women who were pregnant, those with seizure disorders and a few others with acute conditions were kept out. All other psychiatric and medical comorbidities were allowed.

The authors of the new paper, a team of 11 researchers led by University of Pittsburgh professor of epidemiology Stephen Wisniewski, were curious how the STAR*D group would compare with a typical group of patients selected for a run-of-the-mill drug-company trial for a new antidepressant — the very trials on which the Food and Drug Administration bases its decisions regarding new drug approval. Drawing on their own experiences in helping to conduct such trials, which have far more stringent inclusion criteria than the STAR*D group, Wisniewski and his team divided the STAR*D patients into two groups — an "efficacy" sample of patients who would normally be included in a typical Phase III clinical trial for a new antidepressant and a "nonefficacy" sample of patients who would normally be rejected.

Depressed STAR*D patients who were classified for inclusion had no more than one general medical condition (like, say, heart disease) and no more than one additional primary psychiatric disorder besides depression. All patients with multiple comorbidities — along with anyone whose depression had lasted more than two years — were excluded. Once the authors crunched all the numbers, they found that only 22% of STAR*D patients met entry criteria for a conventional antidepressant trial.

All the STAR*D patients were taking citalopram, an SSRI marketed in North America as Celexa. Not surprisingly, those who met standard inclusion criteria for a clinical trial had significantly better outcomes on the drug. In the efficacy group, 52% responded to Celexa vs. 40% of the nonefficacy group. Patients in the latter group also took longer to respond and had to be readmitted to psychiatric settings more often. "Thus," the authors conclude, "current efficacy trials suggest a more optimistic outcome than is likely in practice, and the duration of adequate treatment suggested by data from efficacy trials may be too short."

To bolster their findings, the authors cite a smaller 2002 study that arrived at similar results: in that paper, published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Dr. Mark Zimmerman of Brown University and his colleagues found that of 315 patients with major depressive disorder who sought care, only 29, or 9.2%, met typical criteria for an efficacy trial. Similarly, psychologist Ronald Kessler of Harvard co-authored a 2003 paper in the Journal of the American Medical Association that concluded that most "real world" patients with major depression would be excluded from clinical trials because of comorbidities.

Such findings help explain why antidepressants haven't quite lived up to their promise. But the University of Pittsburgh's Wisniewski, the lead author of the new study, cautions against interpreting the results as an indictment against greedy drug companies eager to exclude difficult patients in order to show better results. "If the population in a [clinical] trial were more representative, that would come at a cost," he says. Researchers expect a certain number of bad reactions during clinical trials; some of these reactions can cause serious medical problems. If patients enter a trial with multiple complications — if they are, say, not only depressed, but also cocaine-addicted, hypertensive and diabetic — you dramatically increase the chances of adverse side effects. "That's why trials to determine efficacy are done on a relatively homogeneous population," Wisniewski says.

That's understandable, but the new study does shed light on the limitations of antidepressants. Conducting clinical trials with representative samples would undoubtedly be more complex — and expensive — since patients with multiple risk factors would have to be monitored more carefully. But for a future generation of antidepressants to be truly effective for most patients, more-inclusive trials may be the best answer.

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They work for some people and for others they do not.

I do however think that A LOT of people are put on them when they do not have OCD, anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder (I know anti depressants sometimes are not given to people who are bipolar/manic but I have friends who are bipolar/manic who take them and are better with them than without), or any other chemical imbalance or problems and therapy would help them a lot more than taking a medication would when they do not have major depression, anxiety, OCD, are not bipolar/manic, etc.

Also SSRIs/SSNRIs seem to work better in combination with therapy too like when the person takes them and goes through therapy.

A lot of people just expect the pill/medication to do ALL of the work for them when it does not work this way, and therapy can help you develop tools or help you accept things/get past stumbling blocks in life but ultimately you have to be the one to change and you have to want it.
 
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Depression isnt one single disorder with one neurochemical source, its that simple.
 
I think exercise is one of the best remedies for depression. If you're depressed, and don't work out, fucking start! IT HELPS SO MUCH! :)
 
SSRIs are crap. A limp dick won't be much good in your sex life. For a mood change try a little cannabis or salvia instead.
 
That's understandable, but the new study does shed light on the limitations of antidepressants.

That's a nice way of putting it, "limitations". Both patient and doctor should always be consciousness of this before and during the period of medication. I personally believe SSRIs are effective, but as the article mentions, for specific disorders/persons. To summate a opinion against all SSRIs in general is cutting it short if you ask me. Each one is unique in it's pharmacology, despite the similarities they share. To each their own opinion.

Thanks for sharing AfterGlow.
 
Anti depressants are fucked up if you ask me. I doubt their effectiveness but even if they work its like, depression is something that the cause needs to be examined and solved, the solution isn't rewiring your brain and being dependant on shitty drugs.

Anti depressants are a huge marketing ploy by pharmaceutical companies and I think they are a stupid waste of time and hope in future there are lawsuits against them from people who have taken them like there are against tobacco companies.
 
While I disagree with long term use of SSRI's due to the lasting affects of them, but they honestly saved my sisters life, Effexxor was the only thing that stopped her taking a short drop with a sudden stop.
 
I think the problem isn't the drugs, it's that people expect them to be a fix all. If you have serious extraneously circumstances that are the root of your problems, then taking a pill isn't going to make it going away because the problem isn't originating with your brain chemistry. it might help kick you back into gear a little if you combine it with therapy and so forth, but in the generation of quick fixes we expect to be able to make all our problems go away with a quick subscription from the doctor, and it doesn't work like that.

In cases where people have serious underlying brain chemistry issues though, they can be life saving. My little brother is one of those, he first attempted suicide at the age of 12 and did multiple times since until we got him onto medication and therapy. He's still got his problems now, but he's nowhere near suicidal and is on the path to living a successful and fulfilling life. He wasn't abused, didn't have family problems, or some kind of fucked up circumstance that caused his depression, he was just born that way, and had for as long as I remember always been either very downcast or had serious issues coping with life in general. Some people are just born a tad messed up and the medication helps with that.

Depression is an umbrella term for issues caused by a huge number of different circumstances, you can't expect there to be a magical blanket solution for something so complex and multifaceted.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
A lot of people just expect the pill/medication to do ALL of the work for them when it does not work this way, and therapy can help you develop tools or help you accept things/get past stumbling blocks in life but ultimately you have to be the one to change and you have to want it.

Crankinit said:
I think the problem isn't the drugs, it's that people expect them to be a fix all. If you have serious extraneously circumstances that are the root of your problems, then taking a pill isn't going to make it going away because the problem isn't originating with your brain chemistry. it might help kick you back into gear a little if you combine it with therapy and so forth, but in the generation of quick fixes we expect to be able to make all our problems go away with a quick subscription from the doctor, and it doesn't work like that.

+1 to both of these comments. I was on Zoloft for six months a couple of years ago, and it really helped to pull me out of very serious depression and get me emotionally flat. Once this was done, I then was able to go into therapy and address several issues leading to me being better off today.

I seriously doubt that I would have gotten these results if I'd just taken Zoloft for years instead and expected it to fix everything.

Huaca said:
SSRIs are crap. A limp dick won't be much good in your sex life. For a mood change try a little cannabis or salvia instead.

I'd rather sacrifice my sex-life for six months then have to deal with the suffering of that depression again... I didn't need a temporary mood-lift, I needed a buoy to keep me afloat and enable me to face the problems with all the effort I could put into it.

Just my experience.
 
I was never a fan of taking pills......especially antidepressants.

But I hit a terrible low a couple years ago with a monsterous battle between me and OCD.

It helped. I think half of it was feeling a change and I was finally able to see things in a positive light.

Then I started smoking pot to calm my thoughts and now im finally over it.

I never thought I would be able to shake it.
 
SSRIs are crap. A limp dick won't be much good in your sex life. For a mood change try a little cannabis or salvia instead.

SSRIs are crap, by and large, but I never got a limp dick. Just major ejaculatory delay, and actually I liked that. Ultimately about the only thing I liked about it.
 
SSRIs are crap, by and large, but I never got a limp dick. Just major ejaculatory delay, and actually I liked that. Ultimately about the only thing I liked about it.

If you take Paxil you won't be able to get it up. At least that was my experience with it. I will never take an SSRI again. I had a very long list of side effects with Paxil. Here are a few:

"Some of the known side effects of taking Paxil include: nausea, insomnia, drowsiness, headache, stomach discomfort and diarrhea, weight gain/loss, changes in behavior, aggressive behavior, rash, itching, sweating, muscle weakness, sexual dysfunction, joint pain, fever, chills, flu-like symptom, and suicidal behavior." http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/print_article.php?articleId=25477

Paxil withdrawal: http://www.prozactruth.com/paxil.htm
 
I used to take Paxil back when I was anorexic. I think it really helped me be more active and outgoing in life. I'm on a low-dose anti-depressant now (Elavil) for chronic pain/etc. but I think it's drying my pussy out so I'm none too happy about it. Meh.
 
I have been on an ssnri for years,small dose of xanax last six months wellburtion also
just added gabapentin.for bipolar.going to try small amounts of cke to help ween of the ssnri
any thought out there
 
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