I never thought I'd say it, but.....

[muntedmunter]

Now it's 9am and I haven't slept, been up for 26 hours, this is ridiculous, and it's probably all psychological...

Off to work in 10 minutes, I think once I get back I will be soooo tired I will fall asleep, wake up, forget about weed and live happily ever after - pffft, who am I kidding?

Or I might just treat myself to a gram and smoke a cone a day?? Noooooooooooooo, I WILL NOT!

Ok suffering from insomnia must gooooo

 

[muntedmunter]

yeah i'd say you need to get out more
look:

If weed is part of your daily habits, and you don't change your daily habits, then quitting will simply result in a gaping hole that can only be filled with...gasp...more bud

plus marijuana addiction is very lame

+1....

 

[Lacquer Head]

When I quit I pulled 3 all nighters in a row on school nights before I could sleep again. Now it's not too bad, just takes some time.

 

[muntedmunter]

^ Nice.... Yeah it's 8pm now and I am pretty tired, I should be able to sleep! I have been up for 36 hrs.... lol

 

[swilow]

My bad got a little excited.

It's just after going through real addiction and withdrawls, considering marijuana addicting seems nonsensical.

Habit forming maybe but not addicting.

Yeah, its addicitve- just mildly so. Habits form in the brain- brain is part of the body- hence, you could say it does form a physical addicition.

I dont understand why people think marijunan addicition is "lame" or not even real... Just do some realtively simple research and you will find out a lot.

That said, I smoked over an ounce an half a week for a few years, and stopped cold turkey- not trouble with anything whatsoever, inclduing sleep. Previous attempts to quite had me very stressed; nausea, vomiting, massive anxiety, etc. Typical, mild, withdrawal symptoms which occurr when nearly every drug is ceased.

THAT said, it doesn't compare to withdrawal from benzo's for example; but thats not what the thread is about. I just find it funny that people are so rude and arrogant about something they haven't experienced.

 

[drscience]

plus marijuana addiction is kinda lame

lol

 

[LongWayDown]

I think is absurd to say marijuana addiction is lame...Its real just like any of addiction. I know people who smoke weed like its crack and just got to have it or theyll just loose their fucking mind completely. Im not saying your going to be puking and shaking in cold sweats from quitting weed im just saying that it is habbit forming and mentally addictive. And once your brain gets used to doing something for so long its hard to readjust.

That said Good luck brother.

 

[drug_mentor]

Yeah it sounds like you have a bit of the social awkwardness, that used to happen to me heaps trying to have conversations with people I just met or didn't know very well. Always kind of analysing what I said and stressing that it was stupid and shit, wondering what they think of you etc.

It sounds like you have a pretty reclusive habit to be honest, all my mates are/were massive smokers like me so I was actually getting out a lot and smoking, I had mates who would come up to my work for lunch break for a mix lol.

Sounds like you are having a hellish time sleeping mate, I never bothered with that shit, whiskey and valium for me all the way . I reckon you should smoke as much as you want in the evenings and before bed through the week. Go out on the weekends and do something, smoke only before you go to bed, while you are out socializing try and stay sober or indulge in some alcohol or other drugs that open you up socially instead of closing you off.

Either that or make friends with some stoners so if you are going to be smoking dope 24/7 it ain't always by yourself. In the end though I think you will find that it isn't a very satisfying social life when you are constantly crammed in bungalows and garages with 10 to 20 other bong rats sucking down bongs religiously. Much better to go out to pubs and clubs and enjoy a drink or some E's, talk shit with some strangers, meet some chicks and all that.

I think you should learn to deal with your job sober, try and find another one if its that boring or just tough that shit out. I am no fucking saint in this regard but if you manage to cut shit like that out I think you will find it affecting you a lot less negatively.

People can talk shit about weed addiction all they want, I have used a shitload of different drugs, even on a daily basis sporadicly but no drug has had a grip on me like marijuana did. I have done a lot of pills, meth, tried h and coke, all sorts of prescription stimulants and downers, shrooms and acid etc. never hooked on any of them, abused some for periods but managed to get my shit in order quick and still continue to use occasionally. Alot of the danger of marijuana addiction is its relative mildness and its ability to take over your life without totally trashing it like a lot of other drugs do. If I wasn't forced off it a few months ago I would be sucking down cones 24/7 to this day.

 

[muntedmunter]

Very awesomely awesome reply, cheers.

Yeah it sounds like you have a bit of the social awkwardness, that used to happen to me heaps trying to have conversations with people I just met or didn't know very well. Always kind of analysing what I said and stressing that it was stupid and shit, wondering what they think of you etc.

Yes, that is exactly what I am getting? That's it! I tell myself not to worry about it, like who cares and he won't remember but yeah it's very irritating. Even after telling myself not to worry it still stresses me out.

How did you get over it?

Sounds like you are having a hellish time sleeping mate, I never bothered with that shit, whiskey and valium for me all the way

Yeah, it's total bull shit. I had 0 sleep for 36 hours and then I just woke up 20 minutes ago after just a 6 hour nap and work again in 5 hours, that's so SIK, chucking a sicky...

I forgot about the alcohol idea, so I might buy a bottle of absinthe, that should do the trick, naa just a bottle of scotch.

I reckon you should smoke as much as you want in the evenings and before bed through the week.

I'm totally agreeing with you here, if my sleep isn't fixed by tomorrow night then I will just have no choice but to get some more. But if I do get some more then I will try not to smoke at work and try cut it down to 3 grams a week.

Either that or make friends with some stoners so if you are going to be smoking dope 24/7 it ain't always by yourself

True, I'd much rather smoke with mates the majority of the time but they're all into uppers still and supposedly people who do uppers just can't do downers, well they do but pretty rarely. On the weekends I usually go out clubbing or to the pub and get stoned when I come back....

Since I stopped doing ills every weekend, just do them like once every few months now I started smoking weed and when I give up smoking I wonder what the next addiction will be, lol... Pretty funny how one thing leads to another.

it isn't a very satisfying social life when you are constantly crammed in bungalows and garages with 10 to 20 other bong rats sucking down bongs religiously

LMAO

I have used a shitload of different drugs, even on a daily basis sporadicly but no drug has had a grip on me like marijuana did.

Yeah I now take my +1 away to the addicted to weed is lame comment because I think it's so much easier to get off the ills then it is to get off weed, I don't have much to back up what I am saying but sooooo much easier to stop ills for a month then it is weed imo.

Thanks for your reply again!

 

[JimiHawK*]

I think I have a bit of social awkwardness, not to sure but you can tell me...

This is probably the main reason for me to quit (as well as being tired/cbf all the time). Im quite a social person, but these last 4yrs have reduced my confidence/conversation skills to ashes. Im getting tired living in my own little bubble, its time to start connecting to others on a deeper level and to start liviing, rather than merely existing... (especially when your lucky enough to get a lab partner thats fkn amazing! %) )

So muntedmunter - goodluck to you! Reading your story gave me a massive boost of motivation, so thankyou! Know that someone across the tasman is also going through the same thing


To those saying weed isnt really addictive etc etc - remember different strokes for different folks. Personally i've never encountered anything that has had such a grip on me before mainly because weed integrates (nearly)perfectly into my lifestyle. I've used/abused a variety of substances, including a nasty poppy habit that lasted around a year. Sure the week(s) after quitting opiates is a shivery-shitty(literally)-crampy hell- but it's the memory of those physical side effects (and those horrific bank statements ) that keeps me away from them now (even tho the 1st month was utter bliss 24/7) With weed - i can smoke up day and night, do everything i would normally do and not break the bank while im at it. Also, if i couldnt score for some reason, i didnt have to worry about waking up the next day barely functional with piss coming out of my ass It's the ideal day-to-day drug (like a cup of coffee in the morning), which is why its so hard to let go of once you start a cycle going.

 

[safety]

To those saying weed isnt really addictive etc etc - remember different strokes for different folks. Personally i've never encountered anything that has had such a grip on me before mainly because weed integrates (nearly)perfectly into my lifestyle. I've used/abused a variety of substances, including a nasty poppy habit that lasted around a year. Sure the week(s) after quitting opiates is a shivery-shitty(literally)-crampy hell- but it's the memory of those physical side effects (and those horrific bank statements ) that keeps me away from them now (even tho the 1st month was utter bliss 24/7) With weed - i can smoke up day and night, do everything i would normally do and not break the bank while im at it. Also, if i couldnt score for some reason, i didnt have to worry about waking up the next day barely functional with piss coming out of my ass It's the ideal day-to-day drug (like a cup of coffee in the morning), which is why its so hard to let go of once you start a cycle going.

Hear hear, well said JimiHawK!

 

[muntedmunter]

Hey guys,

I haven't been on this site since I made this thread and thought I'd pop in here after a few months to give you all an update.

When I made this post I was smoking about a gram of weed a day for a long, long time and found myself addicted to it where I was unable to sleep with out it, socialise much and go about my day being normal.

I decided to try stop and it was probably one of the hardest things I've done (yes pretty soft).

Well I couldn't have a proper sleep for around 1 week and every day my mind was on it, everything reminded me of it, songs, the sun, the time, the movies I watched and the list goes on. That lasted for like 3 or 4 weeks...

Then after about a month I just about forgot about it and wasn't craving it at all...

3 or 4 months on which is now I haven't touched the stuff and don't plan on, infact I don't think I even want to now...

Sneaky brag by me but thought I'd let everyone know that..... YOU CAN DO IT...

Cheers,

MM

 

[jamaica0535]

6 grams a week really isn't all that much....

When your smoking through 6 grams in a day just for the hell of it, that's when you slow down....

It really isn't that hard to quit, just stop calling your dealer... take a little bit of benadryl to help you get to sleep for a few days to get back in the swing of being sober before sleep...

get ready for some crazy dreams though....

 

[Chainer]

Yeah I now take my +1 away to the addicted to weed is lame comment because I think it's so much easier to get off the ills then it is to get off weed, I don't have much to back up what I am saying but sooooo much easier to stop ills for a month then it is weed imo.

Have you been addicted to Xanax or Klono, or OC? If not, you probably shouldn't make such a statement, I find it pretty insulting. You said you binged over summer and now you are trying to stop but can't sleep for 36+ hours? Yeah... okay... I have a feeling you have been tricking yourself into this.

Enjoy your W/Ds of not being able to sleep for a few nights or getting a few nights restless sleep, better then having a fucking seizure from xanax W/Ds. Ten minutes of jogging was not what was suggested, an hour was. Are you trying melatonin?

The only legitimate reason I could see for the argument that MJ is hard to quit is that it is so available and interacts with most peoples lifestyles in a positive way. Keep in mind that weed is a substance to use, NOT ABUSE. 6 grams a week is hardly what I would consider addiction, thats barely a gram a night. I dropped my habit this summer of smoking about 1-2 Os a week to nothing and had almost no W/Ds besides trouble falling asleep for the first few nights. I'm back to smoking a blunt or two every other night, if I had to guess, probably 8 grams a week. I can take a week off with no W/Ds. If this is such a problem, try the sleep aids. Stay away from pot, it sounds like it isn't for you if you have this much trouble sleeping, it could be exaggerating problems rather than helping.

Quitting MJ is more about willpower than W/Ds.

EDIT: Ah, I see you posted an update which is why this tread was bumped. See, not so hard! Congrats on staying clean.

 

[muntedmunter]

Yeah, you guys are right... Weed addiction can't even compare to withdrawals from opiates, benzos etc...

I probably wouldn't last if I was addicted to any of those.

Anyway, I've stopped the weed now and thought I'd share it with you guys...

 

[Chainer]

Sorry, I was not trying to undermine your achievement! Quitting weed is no easy task, I just don't think it should be compared to actual substances addiction.

Again, congrats on getting and staying clean from MJ!

 

[MistaJeff]

It bothers me a little bit when people say that weed is "non-addictive" in a way that makes it sound like you cannot get addicted to cannabis. I'm sure that being a "non-addictive" drug would help cannabis become legal but that is no reason to ignore people who are addicted to cannabis. I am not personally addicted to cannabis, and I don't think I ever will be. I have however, witnessed the formation of a real addiction to cannabis in people around me. They may be poly drug addicts but their first and foremost addiction is to cannabis and I have a feeling that it will remain that way until cannabis no longer gets their rocks off. I am sympathetic to the plight of the cannabis addict. Cannabis may not produce a withdrawal comparable to things like opiates but cannabis a opiates are completely different drugs that have completely different effects.


Congratulations on quitting pot. I wish you the best of luck in your weedless endeavors.

 

[Fohat]

Well, the experience of withdrawal doesn't necessarily mean addiction. Addiction is when you're compelled to do something even when it's harmful.

But yeah, pot can be addictive. I don't think that it's inherently, biologically addictive in the way that heroin and benzos are (though we can't be positive about that, there's still a LOT we don't understand about pot and drugs in general), but you can definitely get "hooked" on it and crave it to the point that you keep using it even though it's having obviously negative effects on your life.

One of the things I love about this site is that people are, generally, honest about drug-use. Sure, pot won't make you shoot up your school or anything, but I'm just as annoyed when people say "it's just an herb man!" or try to argue that it's completely harmless, which tends to be the case on most internet drug-forums.

Also definitely ditto to JimiHawk. Well said! We have to always remember that different people are effected differently by all drugs, and that goes especially for weed. Some people use it like coffee, some people use it like heroin, and most people use it like somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

 

[Ason Unique]

I don't really think I am addicted, but I just love cannabis so much, and I believe it improves my life alot. I see no reason to quit smoking it, and aside from familie's attitudes with it and the indirect trouble it has caused me (getting caught, house getting robbed while inviting people over to smoke...) It has never affected my academic performance, and I would get better grades when I used to smoke alot, and came to school high frequently. My grades dropped however when I went through shit with parents and I stopped (I believe I was depressed at the time) I really wish I knew who did it but I have no idea, and didn't want to give any names to the police about it, but if I do find out who did it I plan to run up on them with a ski mask and stab them in the stomach with a knife... Unfortunately I smoke less now as its hard for me to get money as my mom has all my cash locked up in the safe because she thinks me smoking is a big problem. She always says how I owe her the money that was stolen but she says she won't take it, but I really want the bitch to take it after I've made all the money so she can't use that against me. I don't care when I turn 17 I am keeping my money, I really don't give a shit as when I first got caught she said she wouldn't care if I was 17 at the time... Its messed up that I can't even use 20 dollars out of the money I made to buy weed. The money used to be in her drawer, and I would take a 20 every now and then after I got paid, but I think she may of noticed one day, and she also noticed pills were missing, but she doesn't think I took them anymore because I passed a drug test (besides weed) at the doctors, so she thinks her bf stole them who is addicted to oxy. I did take them just to experiment, and frankly it sucked, nothing compared to weed, I wish I would of never done it cause maybe I'd still be able to take money lol..

Thankfully school is starting soon, so I just save up all my lunch money (have 15 dollars at the end of the week) I'd usually but a dub suck every week, but I'm thinking of saving up alot of money until I can buy a half ounce, or waiting until I have the opportunity to purchase psilocybin mushrooms. Sadly the last 30 bucks I had my friend went to his less reliable dealer and only gave us 3 grams (supposedly) and it was all broken up with a big stem in it, wasn't that bad though, we rolled a 1g blunt and smoked it together, and I saved like 2 bowls for myself, so it only lasted me a day. Last time he got me like 4 grams for 30 and it was pretty good stuff and lasted me 3 days..

Atleast now I am experimenting with cultivating cannabis riskily in my backyard but I believe its pretty hard to find and nobody can see it, but I do have the dream of growing cannabis indoors when I get my own place along with growing mushrooms.

 

[Fohat]

My bad got a little excited.

It's just after going through real addiction and withdrawls, considering marijuana addicting seems nonsensical.

Habit forming maybe but not addicting.

FWIW I've known several recovery peeps who said that weed was the hardest drug to quit. Different strokes for different etc. etc.