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The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

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Someone told me about Salvia a long while ago and the only thing I thought was "Quite the lovely name."But now, I actually am very inspired to try it.
A guy who I'm hanging out with this weekend just so happened to be able to get ahold of a rather large quantity of it to share with us so I'm excited!
 
Someone told me about Salvia a long while ago and the only thing I thought was "Quite the lovely name."But now, I actually am very inspired to try it.
A guy who I'm hanging out with this weekend just so happened to be able to get ahold of a rather large quantity of it to share with us so I'm excited!

Hey MadBaron, make sure you're in a safe place while you do it (not in a public location), I'm sure if you look around this site you'll get an idea of what a salvia trip is like before you do it, although no words can explain the experience really (mine have been quite different every time)
 
Smoked extract. I recommend 15x or 20x because you don't have to smoke so much, but it's not so strong that it's hard to measure the correct dose
 
Anyone ever use a salvia extract buccally? Would this be worthwhile?

I haven't but I've heard it is a lot longer experience and less intense. I know the Indians or South Americans were sucking on leaves for some time.
 
Tried Salvia 10x, not the expected results

Hey all

So I bought 1 gram of 10x standardized extract for about 35$ (it's Israel here and the places selling it are rare. Not much options). First time it was loaded in a bong with a normal lighter, and I just laughed real strong for about 2 minutes. Tried another time, with a "Crème brûlée" butane torch lighter, no effect worth noting. After that, I was dead set on experiencing it's full potential, so I loaded a pipe and a bong, smoked them in straight succession (I used the torch for the bong), and held it in for probably over 30 seconds. Laid on the floor, I was feeling as if I had been snapped to another reality, with many things going on in the background, and I felt like I was lifting something heavy while I was barely touching a small dustbin that was there. I also felt as if I was glued to the floor. The thing is that it all lasted for about a minute, and was not near as intense as I expected it to be (judging by Youtube videos and the price of the thing).

I can't help but think that it isn't real 10x Salvia, since I did everything alright.
I heard that the Salvia experience gets more pronounced after a few uses. Does that seem logical in my situation (after having to smoke a lot of 10x with less than expected results)? Or could I just be over expecting things?

NOTE: I have never experienced with Salvia beforehand.

Thanks for any advice!
 
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I felt the same as you when I got 10x. I need 15x or 20x to breakthrough. It can be hard to breakthrough, but when you find the circumstances which allow you to breakthrough, you will probably be able to repeat it by copying that environment.

Try having as much sensory deprivation as possible. Don't blindfold yourself until after the hit though! :)
 
Thanks for the reply!
I will try to toke up a few minutes before, then pack a huge bowl of the 10x extract and use a butane torch lighter. I'll also hold it in for as long as I can, and be in my room, windows closed for as much sensory depletion as possible.
I think I can make the conclusion that if this time won't be a break-through, what I have bought is probably not 10x.
 
Well see, it probably is 10x. The potency of salvia extracts really varies widely, as it all depends on how potent the original plant material, that the extract was made from, was :\
 
Thanks for the reply!
I will try to toke up a few minutes before, then pack a huge bowl of the 10x extract and use a butane torch lighter. I'll also hold it in for as long as I can, and be in my room, windows closed for as much sensory depletion as possible.
I think I can make the conclusion that if this time won't be a break-through, what I have bought is probably not 10x.

I just did this^ but didn't work well 8o
I only got that feeling of being kinda 'pulled away' (which is nice) and that flow of thoughts, taking me lightly outside of reality. Lasted for about 3 minutes. Either this is really low grade Salvia or I am somehow tolerant to it's full effects (breaking through).

Is salvia only terrible feeling when you don't break through? Because salvia actively makes me feel like shit every time I try it, and I never break through.
No, it actually feels pleasurable for me although I didn't break through.
 
Salvia sucks imho, everytime ive tried it ive just ended nervous as someone who has been a tweaker their whole life. Ive have NEVER broken through on salvia
 
Laid on the floor, I was feeling as if I had been snapped to another reality, with many things going on in the background, and I felt like I was lifting something heavy while I was barely touching a small dustbin that was there. I also felt as if I was glued to the floor. The thing is that it all lasted for about a minute, and was not near as intense as I expected it to be (judging by Youtube videos and the price of the thing).

NOTE: I have never experienced with Salvia beforehand.

You have by the sounds of it. The bold parts I highlighted are classic salvia effects - feeling like you've got an elephant sat on top of you is a bit of a giveaway. If you also felt like you were being pushed through the floor and/or stretched apart, flattened into a weird kind of 2-dimensional hyperspace whilst being pulled apart and fed through a hyperspatial printing press then you were most definitely in Salviaworld =D

I can't help but think that it isn't real 10x Salvia, since I did everything alright. I heard that the Salvia experience gets more pronounced after a few uses. Does that seem logical in my situation (after having to smoke a lot of 10x with less than expected results)? Or could I just be over expecting things?

Salvia is one hell of a strange drug - for my money the most out and out weird one there is - and it hs a huge range of effects. Some folks apparently giggle a lot (YouTube stylee) but the majority are just steamrollered into submission by that freaky bodyload thing - the " Cosmic Conveyor Belt" effect as it's frequently described. Not everybody "tripz bawlz, man!" in any kind of way comparable to most psyches.

Personally, I've only ever had very mild (but deeply strange) OEV - watching my arms "unwind" and "unravel" off into a kind of extra-dimensional infinity - complete with road markings down the middle, oddly enough. If you've seen the film Beetlejuice theres a scene where his arms unwind like one of those curly paper whistle thingies (and turn into mallets or something, if memory serves) then that would be a good approximation :D

Other than that it's purely mental for me - I need to lie down comfortably (preferably in a darkened room) - with closed eyes to get anything much beyond that nasty, freaky, weird (but strangely enjoyable sometimes) bodyload.

There's also a very fine line between tripping and blacking out with Salvia. When I smoke it I lose control of my movements and it feels like I'm a marionette controlled by some strange entity pulling the strings. If I didn't get enough smoke then I'll compulsively redose whether I want to or not and will often then hurriedly hide the bong and sage away for some reason. Although this can be quite enjoyable, it can also be terrifying and potentially dangerous - hence the need for a sitter at higher doses. Last time I smoked a strong dose of Salvia I blacked out and came too spinning (dizzyingly quickly) along my hallway wall and found myself desperately trying to open the front door and get out. Not ideal as I was nekkid except a dressing gown, had no key, and it was 4AM ;)

Whilst in that blacked-out state I was in another world entirely - with no memory whatsoever of taking any drug. I was in a labyrinth that was spinning through space - stuck to the wall of the labyrinth, naturally - wouldn't be Salvia if you didn't become 2-D and stuck to some surface or other :D

Although it makes me giggle now, it was actually very bloody scary when I came to cos I realised things could have gone very wrong indeed. In the case of Salvia, jumping out of windows, running into busy traffic or picking up the nearest sharp (or blunt) instrument and laying into the nearest person with it are very real possibilities - it's the one drug I believe a sitter is absolutely necessary for at higher doses.

Other than a few PooTube vids, most people don't giggle and have anything approaching fun on Salvia - it's dark, bewildering, overwhelming and often terrifying. Can also be amazingly positive too, but mostly just a pretty horrific ordeal :\

People's natural tolerance to Salvia varies massively. Most of those folks you've seen on PooTube are on fairly mild (5-10X) extracts I suspect. Personally I get very little in terms of a trip from anything less 20X, but usually use 40X. The trip I describe above was on 60X and I've hardly touched it since ;)

Also, if you are on any opiates then they pretty much kill the trip dead. First time I smoked Salvia a smoked a gram of good 20X in back to back bongs with nothing but a mild headache to show. Even without opiates, some folks are just naturally very tolerant of the stuff and need higher strength extracts.

You also need to make sure that it's a good extract - there are extracts out there calling themselves "60X," "80X," even "100X" but they are often weaker than a decent 10X. Get a good supplier and you'll know all about it, I promise you. I certainly won't promise that you'll enjoy it cos - like most peeps - you'll probably achieve your first breakthrough and immediately chuck whatever you have left away and swear to never touch the stuff again. It's an... acquired taste to say the least =D

If 10X isn't doing it for you then go for a 15 or 20X and see how that floats yer boat. You may be one of the more hardheaded types like myself that need a 40X+ extract to get anything much out of it. Go up steadily - don't jump straight in to the 60X monster headfuck stuff cos you'll most likely regret it if you remember anything at all - and make sure you are with a sober friend to keep an eye on you when experimenting with high doses cos very bad things can happen - trust me :|

In short, don't believe everything you see on PooTube - those folks are clueless morons anyway and also the prime cause of it being banned in so many places :\

They don't know what they are doing and don't seem to have much of a clue about what dose they are taking or what the "right" effects are anyway. Find your own path - it's much more rewarding :)

EDIT: Gosh! That's a Salvia essay and a half =D I blame the peevee ;)

I'm also considering smoking a lil Salvia now. Only do it once in a blue moon cos Im really not that keen on it, but on top of a euphoric stimulant (MDPV and mephedrone in this case) it's a far more enjoyable experience. If you (or anyone else who's less than enthusiastic about Sage) gets the chance then take a good bongful when on MDMA - if only Salvia could be so divinely sexy and euphoric without it =D
 
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Merged with the B&D Salvia thread - have a read through and I think you'll find your experience is far from unusual and that there are many, many different ways that people experience this drug.


Weirdest. Freakiest. Headfuckiest. Drug. Ever.


Hands Down. No competition.

Also, here's the Salvia Conveyor Belt thread - more food for thought :)
 
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Thanks for the reply (and the merge) :)

Well, maybe I did get a sneak peek into Salviaworld, yet the maximal effects I have felt (even when smoking it the perfect way) where that conveyor belt feeling, 2D, and gravity, but they were pretty mild. I didn't actually hallucinate, just had a rambling rush of crazy thoughts of something unclear happening.

I am quite definite that most people who have smoked the same amount, the same way as i did experienced much more, but I am sure that a stronger extract (or a great 10x one) will do the job. I wish it was more common here. Might try ordering it through the internet some day!
 
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