U.S. Sets Fight in the Poppies to Halt Taliban Cash Flow

Drug war-prison complex meets military-industrial complex. Lovely.
Yea. Let's turn it around.

Soldier in Afghanistan to local: We're pleased to be here to help you solve your country's problems, and we'll give it, and all it's wealth, back to when we've finished
Afghan local (though interpreter): really?
Soldier: yes
Interpreter (sighing): he's a fucking liar!
 
:::facepalm::: Wow this sounds so fucking familiar i wonder why?


Oh and another lie by the Obama administration. I thought there was some sort of plan to be out of afghanistan sometime this fucking century. Im most pissed because i have alot of friends who are in the armed forces and a couple that have allready been to afghanistan and most of them dont even know what the hell there being sent there for anymore.
 
yea, i wonder if they are considering that because the farmers are paying the taliban for protection, and now they will actually need protection and a lot more of it, that we are basically handing them money to buy guns and bombs to kill our troops with. Im sure this has to have crossed somones mind. And since when were these farmers our enemies in the first place, i thought we were after terrorists.
 
legalize the sale of poppies and opium. it would build afghans economy over night.
 
legalize the sale of poppies and opium. it would build afghans economy over night.
the taliban is probably too entrenched; the new licit government and market would probably be made up of many current taliban commanders, and we'd see a huge black market type deal

however, afghanistan would probably be a LOT more transparent and cheap and legal and safe than it is NOW...

legalization is the only answer, even if it is a slow answer to the organized crime that prohibition has created in poor areas of the world (in industrialized areas, organized crime would dissipate rapidly as corporates exploit whatever was legalized)
 
No matter what anyone tells you, remember - it is just a fucking plant! How in the world can people be so stupid, it is nature and you could say that nature is god. All this fuss over a goddamn plant and if it wasn't illegal in the first place then we would not have the problems we are facing today such as this war against the Taliban. Think people - IT IS JUST A PLANT.

How in the world can anyone justify a reason to make a plant illegal is beyond me. There is no good reason to make nature illegal.
 
^ They can't, but it's never stopped various governments trying such things anyway. Might as well just give huge handouts of cash direct to organized crime.

Actually, technically opium poppies aren't illegal, it's just making their extracts into opium/heroin that is. In that alone it's actually differentr to cannabis & coca (well in the UK at least!)
 
No matter what anyone tells you, remember - it is just a fucking plant! How in the world can people be so stupid, it is nature and you could say that nature is god. All this fuss over a goddamn plant and if it wasn't illegal in the first place then we would not have the problems we are facing today such as this war against the Taliban. Think people - IT IS JUST A PLANT.

How in the world can anyone justify a reason to make a plant illegal is beyond me. There is no good reason to make nature illegal.
what if a plant grew seeds with the capability of detonation of an entire nation?

would you agree with laws against the plant now? because, even if remote, it's a possibility; we can use plants for fuel for our war machines... in some universes, i'm sure, plants are used as actual bombs too!

p.s. plants whose only potential human purpose is to kill humans surely exist. what about these plants? basically, i'm saying you can't say something is good because it is part of nature. everything is

however, i understand your basic point, and you're right. (it is impossible to control poppies)

and, if they ever did control them, I personally would be in hell for a while. probly until methadone maintenance comes around here :P

and it is absurd that they would try to control the plant when it does no one harm and the basis for the legislation against it is racist and taking-advantage-of-the-system and etc

but still, just because it's a plant, that doesn't make it "unbannable". some plants could be effectively banned i'm sure, and while i don't know if i want ANY plant banned, i'm sure some plants only have nefarious uses. so i am just trying to argue against the whole "it's mother nature, so it's good" type of argument as there are toxic plants, and nontoxic plants; toxic synthetics, as well as nontoxic synthetics
 
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You are right to a point qwe, but cmon man plants that have explosives in them? :) That's a little extreme. My point is not that "if its mother nature - its good" my point is that nature has been here on this planet for a very long time, maybe even before us humans. Who are we to come in to this world and put imaginary laws into supressing them? Basically, if a person wants to ingest whatever he/she wants, then they should be able to. If that person is an idiot and starts killing other people then it would be appropriate for the law to come in and arrest the killer. And anyway I don't see why any drug user would want to kill anyone else if all plants and drugs were legal, problems such as crime arise directly from prohibition.
 
This is complete bullshit. Those are OUR (usa) poppies.

We are only going in to increase the production and make sure the taliban does not burn them like they have done in the past.

CIA controls the opium supply, do not be fooled.

......oh yeah FUCK obama.
 
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Oh hell yes the CIA or whatever govt. agency runs the heroin trade. How do you think it gets into the USA? All that would be needed was ONE corrupt guy in the CIA, just ONE and kilos of drugs can be smuggled in to the US without problems. Who here thinks that there is at least one corrupt US official? :)
 
theres probable one or two....HA

The US feels that they NEED to control everything so i would not be the least bit suprised if they controlled the whole US heroin supply market. along with many other drugs. im all for stopping Taliban funding but i personally think this is just a BS story to try and show the power of the US' "War on Drugs".....crazy shit
 
Many of these organizations that the government deems hostile or as terrorist factions are set up by the government. Hell, look at Osama Bin Laden! He was on the CIA's pay roll for years. Was given weapons and new his location. Sitll they did not proceed to take him out. Afghanistan is a leader in Poppy growing. Then our country(ies) take the opium and make prescription drugs out of it. Look at the CIA, they are the real dealers. They control the trade of H, opium, coke, etc: This war on drugs is nothing but BS!
 
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