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staying awake on opiates

zrawdog

zrawdog

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does anyone else have a hard time staying awake on opiates? i'm pretty new to them (taken mostly mild ones maybe 20-30 times ever) and i just started getting into poppy pod tea. the only problem i have is that it's really hard for me not to fall asleep. i like taking enough where i nod, but i hate when i actually fall asleep for hours, since i'd rather be awake enjoying it. i don't mind passing out and coming back to a lot, but i hate when i'm asleep for hours at a time. i started taking loratadine instead of diphenhydramine or meclizine, since it's supposed to be less drowsy, but i still get pretty tired sometimes. i don't start nodding until i smoke weed usually though, and i think that makes me more tired, but it makes it so much better too. think i should try taking caffeine or something?
 
I would say try decreasing your dose. I would advise against the caffeine just because stimulants and downers can be risky.
Try taking half or 3/4 of what your usually dose and if you aren't where you want to be within an hour you can up it slowly until you nod.
The weed could also be adding to why you fall asleep, but weed intensifies my nods so I wouldn't give that up haha.
 
i've never even really got close to nodding without weed though, so i don't think my dose of ppt is that high to begin with, but i could be wrong. i usually take about 5-6tbsp of straw. i have to smoke weed to nod but then when i start nodding i usually fall asleep. like i can't separate sleeping and nodding.
 
I noticed back in my opiate days that if I wasn't lying down or resting, I wouldn't pass out... but as soon as I would lay my head back while I was chilling in the recliner, BAM! I was out.
 
dude

ur taking benadryl thats why

plus why are u taking benadryl

thats what people who are desperate to "potentiate" there opiate, which it doesnt do shit but make u feel what diphenhydrmaine does plus the opiate

i hear TUMS helps the most with making it so called quote on quote more potent
 
Potentiate your opiates with something else. Try dxm to do that... it will lower/reverse tolerance supposedly. Do some research
 
i don't use benadryl i use loratadine and that's only to help with the nausea/itching. i'm not sure if it makes me any sleepier but it's supposed to be non-drowsy because it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. i usually lie down since that makes me the least nauseous but i'll try sitting up next time and hopefully that will help. so tums helps too? and dxm?
 
Different opioids have different side effects to varying degrees. Morphine, Codeine, Methadone, etc are more sedating compared to Hydromorphone, Propoxyphene, etc Oxycodone, Buprenorphine and possibly Meperidine have a very stimulating character to them (I used to get insomnia when taking either Oxy or Bupe recreationally at night, due to this aspect of their effects).

A different opioid may give less sedation and drowsiness. Stop taking anti-Histamines with them as well unless the itching/runny nose/etc is reallllly bad.

I found Heroin very stimulating during my run, but I don't recommend starting a smack habit to stay awake on opioids.
 
I wish I could still get the nods...

There might be like one day that comes along very rarely where I get sleepy off them, but then I usually just pass out.
 
Sometimes I get to nodding from pod tea after I smoke some weed and combine with some OTC antihistamines.

Oddly enough, if I drink poppy tea later on in the day it will interrupt me from getting a good nights sleep even if I am nodding. Like say I'm nodding and lay down I won't actually pass out all the way I just feel really good as I lay there most of the night.
 
I would say that caffeine is fine in normal doses. Yes, some of the uppers can minimize side effects of downers but caffeine is not powerful enough to negate the effects of morphine and codeine, such as Adderall would.
 
yes a good cup of coffee usually does the trick for SWIM. Also, he can't lie down, or he will pass out (which happens on opiates or off for SWIM...he loves to sleep).

Also, yes, benadryl definitely induces a nod/sleep. It is a sedating drug by itself, so combining it with PPT will undoubtedly put you to sleep. Don't take the benadryl...instead up your dosage of the pods. This way, when you get to the point where you are nodding and about to pass out, you will also be much higher from the pods at the same time. Or, you could not take so much that you pass out, and you will still most likely be higher than you were when combining the benadryl.

Finally, as was mentioned, re-dosing usually helps him stay awake (if he isn't trying to go to sleep). When he's nodding and about to pass out, if he drinks some more PPT, he gets more sedated, but the urge to pass out goes away for a while. Worth mentioning.

Pce.
 
Oddly enough, if I drink poppy tea later on in the day it will interrupt me from getting a good nights sleep even if I am nodding. Like say I'm nodding and lay down I won't actually pass out all the way I just feel really good as I lay there most of the night.
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I can heavily relate to that aye

Its a fine line finding that right amount so your on the nod pleasantly and not ODing. When I do hit it I find myself lying in be all night smoking ciggies like clockwork every 20 minutes. I try to have my smack first and then smoke cones later on and try not to just smoke a massive session. I spose an energy drink might help ya stay awake abit. Mixing slow with fast is very pleasurable but fuck its a waste of money so wouldn't recommend going down that route.
 
ah, great little thread I came to feelin my nods were verging on sleep,,, was gonna ask if taking a tab of ephedrine would be ok, but think in reading here a good ol' cuppa coffee and 150mg of Trams pluggeds just the ticket.
One thing I would add to the sitting up to avoid sleep thing is your more likely to pass out if you've got some audio like a movie or music goin on as it'll kinda draw you into it, merging your nod towards a dream based initially on say the song or conversation in the movie etc.
Somewhat paradoxically tho its certainly easier to catch a good nod in the first place without lots of noise going on all around you, and if there is noise goin down its easy to get sucked into full sleep,, especially if your too comfy,, does that make sense :? I do like taking the benadryl nod potentiator on pods tho as its far closer to the Heroin nod than what I tend to alternate this with - the way more subtle daydreamy serenity I get off DHC and Tramadol together.
BTW - Pods powdered down and eaten whole mixed in with yoghurt rather than pod tea definetely gives you more for your money by at least a third I'd say -and it's less hassle,,, you can feel a bit queasy tho so milk of magnesium and some calcium carbonate helps,, anyway happy noddin guys
 
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this happened to me while driving at first. i would have to force myself to stay awake on the road, very dangerous and stupid. that was when i first started, but after awhile i didnt nod out unless i layed down or something.
 
PillPoppingAnimal said:
take promenthzine... idk where ur from but in USA u cant get it oOTC
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I think you mean promethazine, and no, its not OTC in the US.

usually with a still buzz-worthy lower dose I get what I call "juiced" where I clean everything and just get full of energy, but as the day goes on, and I do more shots of my morphine I get drowsy, but the end of the day I'm completely nodding out in my computer chair.
 
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