E*lectric Eels & related products

[marley]

I decided to go to bed about 3 hours after ingesting, I fell asleep pretty quickly but I woke up soon after with strange pains in the chest, they seemed to stay a while too, at least 30 minutes. I don't know if it's related at all to the pill(s) I'd taken, but I thought it's worth mentioning as pain like this rarely, if ever, happens to me.

I recently had some Double Happy pills - All night I had a horrible pain in the chest and an irregular heart beat. I seriously thought I was having a heart attack. I was about 30 minutes from going to hospital when I fell asleep.

 

[dannyburling]

I recently had some Double Happy pills - All night I had a horrible pain in the chest and an irregular heart beat. I seriously thought I was having a heart attack. I was about 30 minutes from going to hospital when I fell asleep.

Yeah thats DMAA for you.

Has anyone tried the new strength eels? leigh86 my experiences with the eels have never been similar to yours at all which is strange. That is very interesting though. Was it a yellow and purple cap?

 

[leigh86]

Yeah it was a yellow and purple cap. I'd consider it being my body reacting uniquely to one of the substances in the pill, if my friend didn't have the same experience. I've still got a couple left I might try in the near future when I have nothing to do for a couple of days. I wouldn't mind seeing how they go on an empty stomach.

 

[dannyburling]

Yeah it was a yellow and purple cap. I'd consider it being my body reacting uniquely to one of the substances in the pill, if my friend didn't have the same experience. I've still got a couple left I might try in the near future when I have nothing to do for a couple of days. I wouldn't mind seeing how they go on an empty stomach.

I have been hounding them for a while for info on ingredients. This was their response when asking about DMAA content:

"Version 1 of the electric eel products contained a moderate dosage of DMAA (around 100-120mg) along with the main active ingredient which we still choose not to disclose at this time. With the new version 2 that was released this week we have scrapped the DMAA completely from the electric eel and have doubled the dosage of the main active which has made the product twice as strong with minimal unattractive side effects. The main reason for this is the DMAA can make people feel sick and burnt out. I can confirm that the only product of ours that now contains DMAA is E*jection which we are selling out at 75% off. We are also releasing a completely new version of E*ffectz in the coming weeks which is twice as strong with a trippy effect added. Thanks for your email and we hope this answers your questions about DMAA in our products. Regards"

 

[drazzilB]

I've been reading bluelight for awhile and just got around to making an account after having an "interesting" experience with the TAV pills

I ordered my TAV pills a few weeks ago so assuming I got the old lot,
I ordered 2 eels and they threw in 2 ejections and 2 estatic

I took the estatic first one each with a friend after a few drinks, had also eaten dinner maybe an hour before, didn't notice anything major had alot of energy but was at a gig so not sure what was natural energy and what was the pills.(the food probably didn't help)

last weekend I tried the eels with another friend(1 each), I had a light cold at the time but nothing serious, the pill was was ok i guess kind of like a low strength mdma pill, no big rush or peak but went out and had a good dance etc. was feeling pretty good and energetic. After the effects had mostly worn off maybe 4 hours later we decided to take the ejections and go and chill at a mates place, was feeling alright just out of it like you'd expect was pretty fun, just sat around and talked shit and listened to music. Then started to get a pretty bad headache where my skull joins my spine, wasn't unbearable but sobered me up a fair bit, decided to walk home shortly afterwards had the sweats abit (had been pretty sweaty all night). Was feeling kind of nauseous and faint when we got home, went straight to be bed..

The next few hours were awful couldn't sleep for maybe another 3 hours, kept sweating like crazy and felt like shit, kind of like a fever/flu, body temperature was all over the place with chills and shit.. finally got to sleep and woke up the next day feeling like shit still, not as bad but sort of really hung over and still a little bit feverish and faint.

was thinking I may have made my cold worse but it was back to the same as before by the day after that so yeah.. pretty shit.. not very enthusiastic to try them again.. oh and friend said he felt like shit the next day aswell, also very sweaty.. taking the second ones were probably a bad idea i know it says not to mix them. I read about people having similar experiences with dmaa so thinking it was that.

 

[dannyburling]

Yeah I am yet to have a good experience with DMAA products. It makes me sick and possibly even fluey for a couple of days after taking large doses. I have the new eels here. I am going to try them over the weekend. Will be very interesting to see how they go without dmaa and what side effects they have. Anyone else tried the new ones? I think you would of had to order them after Monday 23rd March (last monday) for them to be the new ones.

I thought the estatic were ok. But really just a speedy thing with a heap of energy. Nothing major but definitely has legs. Would be interesting mixed with an eel.

 

[Ignatius J.]

I've been there before and let me tell you, legal shit IS NOT worth it!

Lets just put it on the table now - legal pills do not necessarily mean safe pills, legal pills just mean they are throwing in some uncommon (and more than likely untested) research chemical.

Although I quite like the effects of Neuro Blast personally, if I hear you take another legal high, I'm going to track you down and slap you!!!

....Oddly enough, you'll find a clean source of MDMA is a far healthier option.

Thats just the problem, finding a clean source. Im talking more about my drug of choice, goey and shards. I've gotten to the point where i refuse to spend a weeks wage on something that is 95% MSM.

I miss the days of good gear so much that now I would much rather try import some dodgy RC that are 99-95% pure than keep those stupid local dealers in business selling their stepped on crap. Even with all the risks involved it's a better deal to my mind.

 

[dannyburling]

Thats just the problem, finding a clean source. Im talking more about my drug of choice, goey and shards. I've gotten to the point where i refuse to spend a weeks wage on something that is 95% MSM.

I miss the days of good gear so much that now I would much rather try import some dodgy RC that are 99-95% pure than keep those stupid local dealers in business selling their stepped on crap. Even with all the risks involved it's a better deal to my mind.

Thats a good point. How hard is it to find a good clean source of mdma now Or any drug for that matter. People seem to be too greedy

 

[Ignatius J.]

Mate gave me a couple of the Eels that came free with his order. Got the day off work today so i decided to experiment with 1. My GOD mydriasis city. haha. they hit hard too. Although im not a fan of pills, i have done quite a few in my time and i can testify that these are up there with a good pinger. HOLY FUCK i was gonna go down to the video store but there is no way im getting behind the wheel now. dRUG DRIVING IS DUMB


Edit: Maybe i was a little over zealous in my statements. I'd say it was as good as a decent pinger...for the 20minutes it lasted. The come up..peak...comedown were rapid. Whole experience over in about an hour to hour and a half tops

 

[dannyburling]

New Eels

Tried to new eels last night. Had a huge night and ended up taking 2 over about 8 hours. Was pretty cooked the whole time. Can easily say the new eels are twice as good as the old ones. I reckon they last twice as long as the old ones which would only last around 2 hours.

Also you can notice the difference with them not having any DMAA. There is no nausea, come down is okay and I dont feel sick or anything today. I also drank a fair bit of alcohol with them which could have possibly made them better.

Would be interested to know anyone elses experiences with the new ones.

 

[listerine]

my friends had some (i think the old ones) last night; they were loving it.
got some crazy as messages from them, makes me kinda keen to try.

 

[uk_pman]

Had a few of the Eels on the weekend at a festival with friends. Definite positive mood impact, uncoordinated feelings, increased energy and some gurning. Depending of the person, it probably lasted 2-4 hours.

The second one had a similar reaction - although with a few nasties (paranoia, vomiting) on the comedown.

Worth considering in light of the current MDxx drought.

As always, take care and better to take things easily first up.

 

[krankenhaus]

I am aware that most "legal pills" have chemically similar compounds to their illegal alternatives in order to produce similar effects while circumventing the law in most countries. I think quite a few of these would be covered under the analogue laws if tested, anyone able to offer any insight?

 

[mystery mister E]

Just had a couple of the new eels.. the jury is out on them. The original batch rocked, very lovey / coke sort of feeling. Maybe I just need a break... :S

 

[Mr Blonde]

I am aware that most "legal pills" have chemically similar compounds to their illegal alternatives in order to produce similar effects while circumventing the law in most countries. I think quite a few of these would be covered under the analogue laws if tested, anyone able to offer any insight?

They may or they may not, a lot of these legal highs we have no idea what's in them and that's what makes them kind of dodgy. A lot of legal highs are just caffeine and guarana in high doses, or DMAA.

I do know that going by QLD analogue legislation, almost everything is an analogue of everything else. Under other states or federal statutes, I have no idea.

 

[MrIbis]

All you guys seem into this stuff.. if you like quick, cheap highs, import a few grams of mephedrone. 200mg doses of that stuff will buzz you like any mdma pill. no real comedown either.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ 4-methylmethcathinone would quite likely be considered an analogue if you were caught and charged.

 

[MrIbis]

^Yeah i'm well aware of that, but surely the ingredients in these pills are illegal in some way shape or form, hell neorganics are still selling their range in australia, claiming its 'legal' - not releasing the information about them. And everyone knows the main constituant is 4mmc.

The analogue laws in australia are very RARELY acted upon, i'd figure only those caught importing commerical quantities would be caught and charged. 4mmc isn't specifically scheduled and would only be covered as an analogue of methcathinone, for 1-2 grams of powder i highly doubt customs could be bothered disecting the law, and AFP would tell them to fuck themselves, likely resulting in nothing more than you losing less than $100 and copping a love letter in the mail. At least that way you have some idea on what you're taking rather than just speculating

 

[dannyburling]

^Yeah i'm well aware of that, but surely the ingredients in these pills are illegal in some way shape or form, hell neorganics are still selling their range in australia, claiming its 'legal' - not releasing the information about them. And everyone knows the main constituant is 4mmc.

The analogue laws in australia are very RARELY acted upon, i'd figure only those caught importing commerical quantities would be caught and charged. 4mmc isn't specifically scheduled and would only be covered as an analogue of methcathinone, for 1-2 grams of powder i highly doubt customs could be bothered disecting the law, and AFP would tell them to fuck themselves, likely resulting in nothing more than you losing less than $100 and copping a love letter in the mail. At least that way you have some idea on what you're taking rather than just speculating

That is a fair point. But the waiting times to receive it international is to extreme. I ordered a some 4mmc about 6 weeks ago and still have not received it. Customs just hold them for the sake of it sometimes. It has happened a few times to me before even using international express couriers. Customs and quarantine hold them for ages. I think I will stick with buying them domesically. Always received the products from TAV with 1-2 days and some other retailers even give you the pure products if you request them.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^Yeah i'm well aware of that, but surely the ingredients in these pills are illegal in some way shape or form, hell neorganics are still selling their range in australia, claiming its 'legal' - not releasing the information about them. And everyone knows the main constituant is 4mmc.

The analogue laws in australia are very RARELY acted upon, i'd figure only those caught importing commerical quantities would be caught and charged. 4mmc isn't specifically scheduled and would only be covered as an analogue of methcathinone, for 1-2 grams of powder i highly doubt customs could be bothered disecting the law, and AFP would tell them to fuck themselves, likely resulting in nothing more than you losing less than $100 and copping a love letter in the mail. At least that way you have some idea on what you're taking rather than just speculating

Sorry, I misread your post and thought you included 'legal' with quick and cheap highs. Hence why I un-necessarily pointed out the illegality. Yes, and they are rarely acted upon. I haven't been able to find any cases to read over where someone was charged under the analogues act. Does anyone here know where I can find the actual federal statute to read over? I tried Austlii but various searches for it returned nothing useful.