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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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With the whole recovery thing in mind, i have gained 15 kgs since i was at my worst and i no longer look like im sick and starving myself... I am pretty happy about that :)
 
Respectable junkie said:
What is methamphetamine? Im in the uk and i haven't really heard much about it. We have crack,is meth something similar to this?
Ive also heard meth referred to as speed. Here in the uk speed is amphetamine sulphate(?) Its a powder or paste that you can snort,swallow,shoot whatever takes you fancy. I dont think it can be smoked though and Ive read here that meth can be smoked. *confused*
So i guess what im asking is - Is meth just another name for a drug we already have over here like crack or speed aka amphetamine paste/powder?

Or is methamphetamine a totally new drug that just hasn't hit my backwater town in the north yet!? I realise some might think this a stupid question but i genuinely am confused about what meth actually is. I'd be chuffed if anyone could help me out on this :) Please dont shout at me for my ignorance
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I'm a brit, who got their arse kicked by amphetamine sulphate (whizz)

All I know about meth, is what I have learnt of users, overseas, and online accounts.
I would say, that if whizz itself wanted to have a big speed sesh, it would probably do meth.
 
InTherapy82 said:
Really pissed me off cuz he was acting like he is above addiction. Like some people on here talk. It's just the fact that you try an addictive drug, whether its meth or heroin, that makes you susceptible to addiction. Doesn't matter which you try. IF you let yourself try either meth or heroin, then you are no better than me. I really hate people who think they are above other people and yet do the same stupid shit as others. When they get lucky and nothing bad happens they think nothing bad happened cuz they are better than others. Bullshit. I really hate this kind of mentality. :X:!

Sorry for the long retarded rant. I really had to get it off my chest. It was bothering me.
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I think people who talk and act like they are above everyone, do so, because they feel shitter than everyone. The bollocks act, is a piss-poor attempt at convincing others/temselves they are 'right-on'. Addiction can happen to the best of us.
 
about the thread title

A suggestion, to take or leave, as you please,
Maybe, re-word teh title of the thread, to Meth/amphetamines mega recovery and support thread.
As it stands, it looks like a thread 'all about speed', which to new visitors, could mean the good stuff and the bad stuff.
If the title is reworded, it will stop pro-speeders coming on, and posting triggering things.
I don't visit this thread everyday, as I am not always in the right headspace, but some of the posts on it have been an enormous help in my recovery.

Enough from me, I'm doing so much :! you would think I was on the bloody stuff, but I am not, I'm just :! naturally.
 
I also really hate that fucking superiority complex with "I'm too smart to become addicted." Whenever I hear that shit I just laugh. From my experience half the people that say that already ARE addicted and just haven't realized it yet, and the other half just haven't found the right drug or didn't try it under the right circumstances.

I have a questions for all the girls in this threads... so guys scroll down... haha.

I REALLY don't like mentioning specific numbers with my weight but I don't know how to explain this otherwise so if anyone would be triggered by numbers scroll down this post... I don't know how to hide it?

Bascially I'm wondering WTF is up with my period on this drug. I hadn't gotten my period in over a year and a half when I entered ED treatment over the summer, I gained some weight and left AMA but actually did OK and continued to gain weight up until 105 lbs (I'm 5'5) but still didn't get my period. I started using again in early November/late October and months continued with no menstrual cycle... then in January suddenly I got my period. I was about 93 pounds then and I have been getting it very weirdly since then-- in January I got in twice in four weeks, then got it in three weeks, and then it suddenly stopped when I hit my lowest weight (of this relapse anyway) at 87 pounds. It's been gone until today when it suddenly came back-- I'm 95.5 as of weighing myself today.

I'm just very confused and kind of concerned about this but I'm scared to go to my doctor because I don't want to tell her about my meth usage. I've never gotten my period at this weight, the lowest weight has been 110, and when I have gotten it it's not a "normal" period at all, has meth ever caused any of you girls to start getting your periods and is it possible I'm not getting my period but in fact something else is going on (bleeding :() in my body?
 
If you work out on meth, since your body gets pumped when your on it..
dose that mean your muscels would stretch twice as much as they normally would?
my mate used to go to the gym when he was fyling off his head on meth and in about 3 weeks i noticed a shitload of size on him but in saying so, on the comedown i find that you cant eat or sleep causing extreme malnutrition so i dont think it could be possible, but wtf with my mate..

and its good to know that someone dose feel pumped n psycho when they use
its a good feeling but my friends should be on the' same level ' as they say..
 
Mrs-mia, when i was doing speed my periods came more often re: 21 days between each period rather then 28. A friend of mine who used only once a week said that speed made her periods start early. I don't know the medical reasons for this but maybe as speed "speeds" up your heart, metabolism etc it may speed up other processes?
 
IPK- meth breaks down the muscles in your body, basically destroys them that's why you get so achy on it (I THINK). I do tons of strength exercises but I'm not anywhere near as strong as I used to be when I did half the amount I did now and wasn't using.

jacqui- that's what I'm thinking... oh well I guess it's a good thing I've got it back anyway...:\
 
to answer a few questions:
1. PERIODS - meth and all amphetamines cause irregular periods.....this can mean it comes more often, less often or a mixture of both
wen i was on meth i never got my period at all....well ok, maybe twice a yr

2.MUSCLES - this is where methamphetamine is a dangerous drug.....it eats ur muscles, yes
not just ur external muscles (like arms/legs/etc) but the muscles around ur heart, lungs and other major organs
this is often why ppl who hav bn long-term meth users will suddenly go into a coma and not wake up or hav a cardiac arrest
meth is poison
speed does the same to a lesser degree - and yes, mia, ur right about that being the cause of the aching although thats also a withdrawal symptom

finally, about the title - this has bn discussed by the mods
we r currently deciding whether to leave the titles of the MEGA-threads as they r or whether to change them
after all, if ppl were to read the OP, as u r sposed to do wen u join in posting in a thread (so u know wat the thread is really about) then they wud see wat the thread is really about and who its aimed at

however we realise a lot of ppl dont do this, particularly while high, and i will let the other mods know (if they havnt read already) that u think this is a gd idea (changing the title) too, 3-D music - thank u for ur feedback
any feedback u give us mods helps us help u!

since ive bn on methadone (im on day 4 - ie. the day wen my serum levels r at their peak and im ready to look at where to go as far as my future daily dose tomorrow) ive bn drowsy as fuck for about 4 hrs evry day after dosing (the valium i take doesnt help), yet its weird feeling drowsy but still suffering opiate withdrawal (by the time im coming up for the next dose im in withdrawal, they just cant put up the dose until the first 4 days r past, as anyone whos bn on MMT will know)
this has awoken a need for speed
wen im peaking i just want to shoot a gram of meth and go for a hoon on my horse

luckily by tomorrow the drowsiness will cease to happen wen i dose as im now fully 'on methadone' so i am hoping the desire to use meth wont b there
the gd thing is i havnt given in
i havnt even injected sterile water, which i usually do to cope with needle cravings
i feel quite proud of myself

maybe its to do with the fact ive bn proposed to by my beloved paul - of course i said 'yes'
i am engaged! to the man of my dreams!
we plan to get married on horseback - me on maverick, him on my friend steves kind thoroughbred orion

i am also planning due to my constant relapsing on meth, to wait till im off valium and methadone then (if im still off and on using) go back to the capri clinic, the rehab i found most helpful
that shud b in about 4 yrs time altogether at least
this time im ready to go there to get well, rather than bask in the glamorous (yea its one of those rehabs) atmosphere while trying to score P from famous ppl 8(
i also wont hav friend X with me (she was there coincidentally last time) to shirk off with in groups
i wish friend X well but for now shes not really a friend.....more like just 'X'

look after urselves, fellow amphetamine-warriors, and hav a gd SAFE easter <3
 
^yeeeeeeeeees! :)
<3 drug wench, she is one of the most compassionate, understanding, strong and inspiring people I have encountered, even if only via internet ;)
 
wow really!
grats DW :)!!!!


Amphetamines produce such agony, and you don't eat, and you don't sleep, and you get paraoid, and you go psychotic, and your heart really hurts. amphetamine psychosis, I left it behind awhile back :)
speedfreak years are over, the quality of my life has drastically improved, the last time I had abused amphetamine was 13 days ago when I banged up methamphetamine (and about 3 and a half months clean before that). I feel more confident then ever now, I don't abuse my dextroamphetamine. As of now, the dexedrine keeps cravings away very well. I take 60 mg per day, I got a great doctor and am glad for it.
 
:o u all make me blush - and thanks for the well-wishes....paul and i r blessed to hav found each other, although i wudnt quite say im the best mod......TDS is blessed with a great team! the others too do a lot of hard work, behind the scenes esp to keep this forum safe and enjoyable, this thread is just my speciality kind of as im the token ex-speed freak mod ;)

gorgoroth - congrats on ur clean time
tho i always say clean time doesnt really matter, its wat u put into ur recovery that counts, i think u put a lot of effort into getting to where u r
seeing a happy post from u makes me overjoyed
and u hav bn clean longer than me btw ;)

today up went the methadone dose by 10mg - more comfortable......but i went to an old haunt by mistake (or maybe a seemingly-irrelevant decision?)

mum took paul and i out to dinner to celebrate us getting engaged and i wanted to go to fatimas, a luvly middle eastern place in the trendy side of auckland, unfortunately near friend Xs old flat where we introduced her cousin to P and the 3 of us used to spend days smoking it at her flat until we crashed with exhaustion

on the way home we passed the street friend Xs flat had bn in (she was raided, busted and moved to the city centre after she met her stupid gang-affiliated bf who led to her relapse) and i started saying how i wondered how she was getting on and reminiscing over 'the gd ol' days' wen she lived there and the gang bf whos kind of changed her (i think hes beating her or something cos shes just.....not herself.....even herself on P but thats another matter)

i was actually literally tasting P smoke and having vivid flashbacks to the 3 of us jumping at evry noise outside and hiding from our shadow men and screaming to old rock songs......smoking more P.......inviting boys round to do dodgy shit with.....smoking more P.....

paul just said 'whooooa stop talking about that stuff, hun' but i didnt stop thinking about it
i managed to bring down my cravings by thinking about how laura had got clean and looked so much better, how evry time i use P now i just feel like shit the next day (sometimes even after using) and how friend X was acting the last time i saw her (these days i only find out how shes doing thru laura or thru the gossip magazines)

it bothers me that evrything changes with meth - things start out so fun and later they get so awful
it bothers me that i once wanted to b a top show-jumper representing NZ at the olympics and cud b by now if it wasnt for the money and time i wasted on meth so maverick sat in the paddock for yrs then was leased out to a lady who ruined him so i had to retrain him.....we still hav a chance but as iron maiden sing 'face up, make your stand, and realise you're living in the golden years'
my golden yrs r past as far as olympic show-jumping goes - maverick is getting older and the games r evry 4 yrs....i anticipate another 8yrs before hes ready for those tracks

laura? she wanted to travel - she has methamphetamine charges for multiple offenses (so do i but travel isnt important to me, it was to laura) so many countries wont let her in
it sucks but u can understand it cant u
her favourite iron maiden song coincidentally is the one i quoted 'Wasted Years' (check it out on youtube if u like short but catchy old metal songs - i can play it on the guitar but going off-topic now....)

friend X? similar - she wanted to b a model...she was.....briefly
now shes just another P-head, only less-than-anonymous unlike the rest of us
i asked her not long before i stopped seeing her where she saw her life going and she said 'who fucking cares as long as i hav gang member X' and took a puff off her glass pipe with a dumb grin on her face
well no one can b a model wen they look as sickly as she looked that day

kiwis if uve guessed who im talking about.....keep all that quiet
friend X - if ur still lurking BL as u were before, ive never said ur bloody name, and those r my honest feelings, got to let them out somewhere!
its not that i dont care, i just cant afford to
im a meth addict and i dont want to b anymore :|
 
I've had random adderall binges a few times over the last few months, but now I've been taking it everyday for the last 8 days.

Today I was going to try to not take anything and I ended up sleeping most of the day.

At night, I went to class and I barely felt there. I saw my girlfriend for a bit and we talked, but I felt really dull and kind of down.


When I came home I decided to take some adderall as I have things I need to get done tonight.

How long does it take to get attached to this where it would be hard to get off? I'm only taking low doses and everything, but after heroin, I really don't want to feel dependent on anything else.
 
adderall is the amphetamine i know the least about as it isnt available here but amphetamines in general differ from heroin in that they r generally more psychologically addictive while heroin is more physically addictive

also there is no suboxone/methadone for amphetamines (tho theyre working on the concerta trials with meth addicts)

i cant tell u how long it will take u to get 'attached' to it as addiction to amphetamines can start from day one
there is no time period tho there is the same issue with tolerance/physical wd that there is with heroin

to me it sounds like u r already on ur way towards addiction and i wud cease ur adderall use and maybe try a less addictive stimulant
u dont want to get into the cycle i got into: amphetamines to keep u up - heroin to bring u down - amphetamines to bring u up again - etc

i gather u hav an addictive personality - thats how i ended up addicted to meth/heroin
plz b careful cos no u dont want another addiction

i suggest something like modafinil or even methylphenidate......both r also addictive to a degree but not physically addictive like adderall

gd luck carl - remember any specific questions, u can PM me, but remember adderall isnt exactly my speciality

ive totally gone to custard wen it comes to methamphetamine btw
im ftm not IVing (tho i indulge sometimes) but i am smoking P again.....most days (probly bn 2 days this week i havnt used P)
i dont hav a pipe anymore but my neighbour lets me use his and so does my bro wen he comes over....usually bearing gd crystal
anyway even if i didnt hav a pipe we all know how well the old school lightbulb trick works
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
 
Meth, even high grade amphetamines are the worst substance known to man. My girlfriend's husband (at the time) killed himself in the infamous lab explosions that we all know and love so well. They had to sift through his bones and find his Dentist records to even find out if it was him or some weird faked death.

Do you want the DEA/FEDS knocking at your friends, family, and associates door because you're a meth-addled loser who cooks while smoking a Red?

One of my high school buddies recently got busted for the biggest meth lab-"COMPLEX" ever found in Illinois. Fed Time Boys...

Shitty high, shitty come down, what's the deal? Poor man's Cocaine I'll tell ya. Smelling, psychotic, teeth and hair falling out... and what's w/ these fatass meth-heads who are still like 350 pounds after doing meth for 5 years?

Whew. Nasty. Stay Away. I don't get it...
 
I tried concerta but it didn't do anything, same as Adderal XR.
Dexedrine worked, the spansules, though.
even if it's fucking 60 mg a day, better then shooting crank.
 
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