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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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Have only had the non-racemic ket once and can't say I noticed a huge difference myself - possibly less sedating and less confusing. Not entirely sure which isomer it was though... was on a few other things too, so possibly not the most reliable of trip reports :D

Chemistry is not my thing at all but wiki says that the S-isomer is less psychedelic and more sedating and analgesic. That's just wiki, of course ;)

Since (S)-ketamine has greater analgesic effects and less hallucinogenic side effects than (R)-ketamine, the pure (S) enantiomer is sometimes preferred to the racemic mix for use in medical procedures, especially when lower doses are used for minor surgical procedures where the patient remains conscious during the operation.
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well, i've had S(+) recently, and it was a little weird. I still had the mental effects, but it seemed to lack the narcotic feeling, the confusion aspect, and a lot of the body component. I found it much less euphoric, and definitely prefer racemic. I didn't notice it to be particularly more psychedelic, but I never did that much (most was a 50mg IM shot) and it was part of a binge ketamine session, so I probably had a pretty high tolerance anyway.

You also come down much quicker with S(+). This is because R(-) actually inhibits the metabolism of S(+).

Oh, and Shambles, wiki is wrong here. :) I actually was confused and asked about the S(+) issue several months ago, because all the journal articles said S(+) was less psychedelic, but every experience report said S(+) was more psychedelic. Turns out them professionals aren't as smart as us. =D
 
no, it takes about 4 times as much to get high, and its a really wierd body high that lasts way longer. not as good as snortin IMO. I wouldn't try it dude.
 
Don't do it. It apparently messes your liver up. And you won't get the normal effects, the liver converts Ketamine into Nor-Ketamine which is more sedating and gives a more narcotic high I hear. Stick to snorting or IM
 
Well, in the spirit of varying mileages and ideopathy, I have to disagree that it's not worthwhile =D

It make take more, and it certainly does last longer .......... but I find that it is a lovely journey through waves and waves of loveliness. Just when you think it's worn off - back it comes and your off again. And as for stomach or liver problems, I suspect you would have to use it quite regularly for that to have a significant deleterious effect.

Try it once and see. Say 500mg. And if you have the opportunity, be wrapped around the naked body of someone you love.

And let us know =D=D=D ... how it goes
 
Damn 500mg, I'm only gonna have 2gs.....guess I'll just stick to nasal, haha.

But being sedated for a good amount of time seems kind of appealing to me.
 
its been a while since Ive had K in my hands but i finally got some and k'd myself out earlier

i must say
the experience was better than any other time (except for my first few times)
ahhhh
feels nice :)

pretty bad burn though
but it went away pretty fast
 
How much does it take you guys to khole? Erowid says 1mg/lb, which means it would be 140mg for me.

I did 70-75mg yesterday and it was pretty nice. Lasted 1.5hrs, vision fucked up, body was numb/felt like jello, haha. Thoughts were weird, and my hearing was messed up. Cant wait to do some more. Not sure what dosage i should try next.

Burn didnt seem to bad. But that might be because the only other thing I've railed is 2cb, lol.
 
yaa in comparison to 2c-b ketamine is NOTHING!

i think i might up my dose from 50mg today to 75mg in a few days, maybe a week.
im excited
 
my sweet spot for IM is 450 milligrams i have found.. and sweetspot for IV seems to be 200 milligrams to 250.. but this all depends on many things.. if this when tolerance is high (session tolerance) then will need to add 50 millgrams or so for every few shots later but you can't keep going because you start to feel really sketchy.

Altho if i leave it for a few weeks a .3 can still be quite nice. altho .1 will still effect me for example it can be quite annoying like an uncomfortable tryptamine on a low dose or something too much stimulation.

Snorting really annoys me these days but the odd line at the right time can be nice in some ways.. but after shooting alot the drip seems far more noticeable again YUCK but nice YUCK lol.

and yeah i normally k-hole when in a reasonable mood but quite angry tonight.. tried doing some excercise etc.. but gonna see what happens feel bit more chilled now aha... will report back later if anyone gives a crap :P

EDIT: my tolerance is disgusting i know, not proud of it.
DO NOT take my tolerance as any kind of guide.

plan to calm it down big time do hardly any K compared to what i used to do now though.

lucky it's not physically addictive :P or i'd be screwed aha!
 
the drip seems far more noticeable again YUCK but nice YUCK lol.
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Yea I did 130mg earlier and the taste in the back of my throat sucked......and it didn't want to go away.
 
silentscience said:
no, it takes about 4 times as much to get high, and its a really wierd body high that lasts way longer. not as good as snortin IMO. I wouldn't try it dude.
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If it's cheap o-plenty, I would. Especially without a tolerance. I had a bit of a tolerance (an understatement) when I did, as I was fairly heavy into the stuff for a while, but I would eat a little more than a half gram, and snort a bunch until I lost the ability to stand, then I would go into a strange place where my mind would manufacture a bunch of crazy shit that had nothing to do with the real world.

It got rough on my mind after a while though, and tolerance got too high to make eating it economical in any way. Apparently, norketamine is more readily formed when it's eaten, and F&B said somewhere on this forum that norketamine is probably what's responsible for the urinary issues that come from K, so I can't imagine it would be too healthy to do for too long that way.
 
Special K

Iv'e never done ketamine before..and I was wondering if there was any way you can inject it..and if so what is the process...like to inject it..like cooking it or whatever..I am sorry if there was something posted about this before, I searched everywhere and couldn't find anything about it...your help will be greatly appriciated...
thank you very much





*softlyunspoken*
 
If you have a vial, the liquid was made to be im'ed. If you are talking about mainlining, I would definitely not advise that. I can promise you that you can get plenty ripped, and I mean RIPPED from snorting it. I remember the first time I went into a k-hole, it was unlike anything I ever tried.(Was experienced with LSD, Psylocybin, MDMA, AMT, ect.)
 
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