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Hello, my first post here!
I've only rolled two times in my life, starting about 10 months ago. (Greatest feeling of my life, ghehe ;). ) I've been looking around here for a few weeks now but felt like it was the time for registration. I've mostly been focussing on post- and pre-loading for the next roll. I'm an e-newb with only two rolls on my slate, but hopefully many to come.

I want to prepare to the best for the next roll, to reduce all risks and enjoy it to the fullest. I will test the pills and try to stick to a pre- and postload schedule. Two things I have a question about:

1. I created a pre- and postload guide for myself. I know the known guides are great for the general idea and they are all personal, but I'd still like to go trough some things with other users. Only thing is, I can only find some old topics discussing these guides. I don't want to be the kick-the-old-topic-newb, so where should I post mine if I want to? Or is the whole pre- and post-loading a 'been-there-done-that'-topic with only references to older guides?
(Not just about 'here it is and now comment on it', but I've got some actual questions about replacing some supplements for cheaper ones etc.)

2. Some of the items for pre- and postloading are kind of expensive. Some containers contain like 90 capsules. My multi-vit expires after about 4 years. Are most of the products the sime when it comes to expiration? If I only roll 4 to 5 times a year, it would be kind of a waste of money to trow out the remaining products after they expire.

Thanks in advance!

Hi extremi and welcome to the site.

In this forum it is quite fine to bump old threads so feel free to go right ahead.

There are no silly questions at all.

Bump or start your own thread.

I cant help with question 2.
 
^ welcome to the site X-termi, great to have you here! :)

have you checked out the directory yet?
theres a whole bunch of links that can guide you into some of the answers you need in there.
its the first thread in the Ecstasy Discussion board!

Thanks for the welcome & hint. I tried all those links before, but still have some unaswered questions, so I'll just start my own topic instead of kicking a 2006 one, since my 'OP' in the old thread might be mucked away real soon by a few answers to it.
 
Btw, I almost forgot, I am still wondering what this was:

When I was rolling for the first time on half a pill of E, I went to get some drinks and one guy stopped me in front of the bar. He looked me straight in the eyes (doesn't take a smart ass to know what he saw), then he asked me to stretch out my hand. I thought it was all good, so I did. He asked me turn my hand around with the palm facing down. He took a look at at, then he watched me straight in the eyes again and looked very, very serious. Then he just nodded 'no' with a disappointed look and walked away.

What, oh what did he see on my hand that I did not? Asked a lot of people, and nobody knows.
 
Btw, I almost forgot, I am still wondering what this was:

When I was rolling for the first time on half a pill of E, I went to get some drinks and one guy stopped me in front of the bar. He looked me straight in the eyes (doesn't take a smart ass to know what he saw), then he asked me to stretch out my hand. I thought it was all good, so I did. He asked me turn my hand around with the palm facing down. He took a look at at, then he watched me straight in the eyes again and looked very, very serious. Then he just nodded 'no' with a disappointed look and walked away.

What, oh what did he see on my hand that I did not? Asked a lot of people, and nobody knows.

Hemm, thats weird all right, guess you'll have to ask him
 
Btw, I almost forgot, I am still wondering what this was:

When I was rolling for the first time on half a pill of E, I went to get some drinks and one guy stopped me in front of the bar. He looked me straight in the eyes (doesn't take a smart ass to know what he saw), then he asked me to stretch out my hand. I thought it was all good, so I did. He asked me turn my hand around with the palm facing down. He took a look at at, then he watched me straight in the eyes again and looked very, very serious. Then he just nodded 'no' with a disappointed look and walked away.

What, oh what did he see on my hand that I did not? Asked a lot of people, and nobody knows.

He was playing with you.

Go outside amongst a lot of people and look up in the sky for a while, you will be shocked how many others look up as well........its fun fucking with peoples heads.
 
He was playing with you.

Go outside amongst a lot of people and look up in the sky for a while, you will be shocked how many others look up as well........its fun fucking with peoples heads.


I know that one yes, and a lot of others. I really like psychology tricks and stuff. (Most recent trick: put a wallet on the ground in a busy city, draw a crayon circle around it and walk away. Almost nobody picks it up. a group of 5 strangers even started discussing what was going on whilst hanging over it, then they raised their shoulders and moved on. Was amazing ;-). Creds go to Derren Brown)

But yes, that might have been it. Then again, I'll never forget the look on his face, like if I was doomed to die within 30 minutes. I thought maybe he was looking for tensed fingers or something.
 
test kit

I have been looking at the test kits, and I suppose the complete one would be the best as it checks for just about everything that could be in your pill. However i'm not even sure i'll continue use after this next time so...

Which one do you recommend? Marquis, mandelin, or mecke?
 
Many people actually use a couple of different ones.

Its really up to you.
Read the info on the website and make your decsion based on your finances and what they each offer.
 
A bit worried.

I got my 3 pills for next week. 2 for me, 1 for gf, as mentioned last page.
They're red transformers. Not the head shaped shit, normal presses. There's a lot of good transformers around that are not head shaped, and I've experienced a few, as well as everyone I know who rolls.
They're an impressed logo, the top is slightly rounded. The bottom is flat and beveled. Exactly how all the good ones I've had are.
I got 3..2 look exactly as described and as I've had others..one, on the bottom..has an indented circle in the middle..I'm like wtf..at first I was really worried like wtf did I get..but they look identical otherwise, and after trying harder to see how it's there, I think maybe part of the pill flaked off, and it's not actually part of the press..
Should I be concerned? Everything else between them looks identical..they're pale red with a lot of white and a couple darker specs. they all are the same size..logo quality..bevels, rounded..

should I be concerned? thanks
 
no one can really tell you wgp.
I advise that you get a testing kit ASAP (i.e. click on the link above RIGHT NOW!)

if you think something could be up, its not worth the risk, even if you think youre just being a bit too paranoid!
 
There's no way I can get one in time. That would be the optimal solution, but given my situation, I can't.

I really do think I'm being too paranoid. Aside from that one blemish on the one pill, they look identical to ones I've had before. It's really hard to tell if the indentation I'm talking about is intentional or just a little piece that flaked off..

god damnit i'm so paranoid about everything. i'm extra worried this time because my girlfriend is trying it. I just want to know everything will be great..even though I know it will be. she's a bit scared but i'm trying hard to have her in the right state of mind going into it
 
^ you're a good person for being too paranoid. Better than not being worried about things like this and giving her a high dosage of meth or even in some weird twisted case PMA. You wouldn't exactly feel to great either if this were to happen now would you? ;)

I still advise ordering a testing kit NOW. It will help you out immensely, even if you cant use it this time!

*not trying to sound rude, but if you cant test the pills in time, and you're still going to drop either way, i do not see the point in posting tbh. Im not trying to be mean im just trying to understand your logic. :P*
 
There's no way I can get one in time. That would be the optimal solution, but given my situation, I can't.

I really do think I'm being too paranoid. Aside from that one blemish on the one pill, they look identical to ones I've had before. It's really hard to tell if the indentation I'm talking about is intentional or just a little piece that flaked off..

god damnit i'm so paranoid about everything. i'm extra worried this time because my girlfriend is trying it. I just want to know everything will be great..even though I know it will be. she's a bit scared but i'm trying hard to have her in the right state of mind going into it


If you're so worried and your gf is afraid, it wont be your all-time best roll thats for sure.

Tell her something in the likes of ''honey, i'm not sure about my pills, and I care so much about you, I think its best to postpone it until I get my testing kit, then we'll know for sure what we put in our bodies''

She'll luv you for being considerate and wont mind waiting. And when the day comes that you actually roll togheter on pills you tested clean yourself, it will be a great experience for the both of you
 
I do see what you're saying into the logic of my post. I thought that beforehand..I guess I'm just seeking assurance that I'm just being too paranoid.
I live with my parents, I can't get a kit.
I'll definitely just start her off on a half and me on 1. We'll start with the flat bottomed ones..and once everything's going good we'll go from there.
Sure I want the cleanest and best pills possible..but it couldn't be worse than maybe getting pipes or something right? and hell some people enjoy that..I wouldn't know, I'm inexperienced.
thanks a lot though man, you specifically have helped me a ton since I've joined here.

edit: hadn't seen zzyzx's post. She's not worried because of the blemish if that's how I made it sound. Just because it's her first time. She'll start off on half of one of the perfect looking ones.
I'm only worried about if she's going to have a great time. Just in general towards anything I know how she reacts..so I'm just really hoping she's in the right mood
 
ahh i see.
See if theres a way you can get a testing kit. Its really something worth investing in.
IMO if you think theres a possibility that something could be up with the pills you got, its better to be safe than sorry. You can find other pills, or dont even roll like zz said.
Its really up to you in the end man and since we dont have the pills in front of us, we cant exactly tell you what to do. I wish you the best of luck and if you do ingest the pills, let us know how it went!

btw, i love helping you and anyone else out, so its my pleasure to be of assistance to you. its what im here for man! ;)<3
 
edit: hadn't seen zzyzx's post. She's not worried because of the blemish if that's how I made it sound. Just because it's her first time. She'll start off on half of one of the perfect looking ones.
I'm only worried about if she's going to have a great time. Just in general towards anything I know how she reacts..so I'm just really hoping she's in the right mood

My point remains, if you know for sure the pills are clean, she'll feel less stress about putting something unknown in her body for the first time, and you'll be less worried about her having a good time because its extremely uncommon not to like MDMA.

Anyway, if you decide to go trough with it, I suggest you talk with her and cuddle for a bit before taking the pills. Tell her what to expect, even give her a small massage to relieve stress, and drop when you're both ready.

The best rolls I had were the ones were the set & setting was optimal
 
mod. are we aloud to discuss prices of pills or pure mdma in the ecstasy discussion forum?
 
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