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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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as long as you have tolerance to both benzos & opiates you should be ok- but if you only take klonopin as needed i don't see how you would *need* 2mg- maybe cut that down a bit if you can. i'm on both of those but only take the klonopin maybe once every 2 weeks or so now, and at the most i'll take just .25 - .5mg, and even then it's only to help come down from stimulants.
 
The thing is I've never actually done klonpin, I have a history with xanax and valium so I figured around 1-2mg would be where I would want to start as 2mg on xanax wasn't doing much for me back when I was using them heavily. I guess I'll know how 2mg k-pin effects me after i try it out tonight when im not on any opiates at all.

By as needed I mean I'm looking for somewhat of a sense of well being I mean im not looking to be out of my mind high like I used to get on benzo's but I am looking for a bit of the calming effect. I don't know if .25 would do that for me but I imagine 1mg might with my current tolerence.

Another questions do you take both your med's around the same time or wait til a differant time of day to take your klonopin
 
as far as what I understand, they put Naloxone in sub, just to try to deter people from using it illegally. I don't think it has much of an effect. It's just there to scare people into thinking that if u use it other than sublingually it will put you into precipitated w/d.

I never use sub sublingually now, just snort and plug it and I never had precipitated w/d from sub, if no other opioid was involved. I only had p/w when I used sub too soon after taking dope. And that time I did use it sublingually. What cause the p/w was the buprenorphine knocking the dope off receptors, causing a quick decrease in the high.
 
So anyone else here use benzo's while taking daily suboxone? I'd like to get a few more people with actual experience's opinions. Thanks again guys n gals, any info is appreciated
 
If you dont get high from suboxone, it should be just the same as taking benzos by themselves, they might get a little potentiation by the suboxone and it might be a decent buzz.

If you do get high from sub, i would take like 1/2 of your normal benzo dose, and 1/4th
 
To answer that no i dont get high from my sub dose (i wish) heh. However if I am curious if there is truth behind this? Anyone have any experience if this is a correct statement?
 
Okay, so I'm a newbie, but here's my very important question --

I occasionally take Suboxone (a couple 8mg tabs here and there), but in the past week or so, there's been about 4 days i've taken them -- 2 of these days I took 16 mg, but on tuesday (march 17th) and now it's the 19th. I took 20 mg... so I'm wondering, after drinking quite a bit of water today and going on a long bike ride (does this help clear it from your system?) how many days til I am almost fully recovered from the Bupe, and it's safe to feel at least MOST of my 80mg of oxy I like to take sometimes? I have fourteen 10mg percosets right now, and I'm considering taking almost all of them to feel about 80mg's worth of euphora, but I'm not sure..thinking ill wait a few days -- anyone have a good guesstimation on this?

I should also add that im 6'7'' and about 230 lbs., if that helps figure it out -- I once took 5 oxycodones after taking 16mg of suboxone three days in a row -- waited about 3 days and I didn't feel anything, but this was when I had about a 25 mg Oxy tolerance.

any answers would be much appreciated

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Ideally you should wait 72 hours and be fine. However I rarely wait more than 24 (how am i gonna wait with oxy right in front of me:\). I have to advise against taking all 14 due to the fact that you can OD from trying to get past the bupe not something i would recommend. Honestly I've done it 18 hours after and felt it at least a little bit but if you were to wait say 30 I'm sure you would feel it. why not take a few of the percs and see if your feeling them at the 25-30 hour mark i mean you have 14 take 4 or something and see how its feeling. if your not feeling them at all wait 5-10 more hours and try again. Prolly your best bet
 
Thanks for the reply. I think I'll try saturday night just to be safe. I have 140 mg of oxycodone, but based on that one time i waited and took 5 and still did nothing, even after 37 hours, I dont want to risk it. Hmm, im going to be coming across some Oxycontin 20's in a few days and I got a great price on the oxys i have now, so I guess it wouldnt be much of a waste even if they didnt feel amazing, given the fact ive had all that Bupe. Why is it that I see so many people who post saying theyve been taking like 16 mg a day for 2 years, then only taking 2 days off from it, then feeling their oxy, hydro, whatever, almost to the full effect? Does your body get used to it and does it get rid of it quicker if you've been taking it forever? I just don't understand that
 
Honestly man the only explanation i can think of for that is due to the fact that everyone is different. That and they may be "feeling" it but not to its full effect. Like I said I take bupe daily for treatment and the few times I relapsed i took my oxy dose ( a normal sized dose for me aslo ) 18 hours after and felt *something* not a lot but something, after that I just went right onto my regular daily schedule of every 4 hours doing 40mg and by the 3rd or so dose I'd be feeling its full effects. Honestly for me as a oxy junky just feeling the line go up my snooter (nose lol) and seeing it and tasting it is half of the high.
 
Understandable. I just recently started snorting OC's. Before, I'd just crush 'em up and put them in a piece of bread, to parachute. I got tired of nearly choking so many times by having too big of a wad of bread lolol.I guess i'll try tomorrow at 72 hours and we'll see how I feel. I don't imagine ill feel it to the fullest, but hopefully mostly.
 
I think everyone is different. I only have to wait 24 hours after my 16mg dose to get high again. It isn't as intense of a high, but it works. After 36 hours I'm good to go at a regular dose. I recognize this is rather unusual though. My doctor is completely confused by it. I first started getting them from a MMT clinic in Seattle and by the time I would arrive the next day to dose I would be sneezing, shaking and water pouring out of my eyes. I had to switch to a private doctor so I could split my dose to twice a day instead of once. I almost wish it lasted longer because I hate putting that shit in my mouth more than once a day.

hl2 said:
Thanks for the reply. I think I'll try saturday night just to be safe. I have 140 mg of oxycodone, but based on that one time i waited and took 5 and still did nothing, even after 37 hours, I dont want to risk it. Hmm, im going to be coming across some Oxycontin 20's in a few days and I got a great price on the oxys i have now, so I guess it wouldnt be much of a waste even if they didnt feel amazing, given the fact ive had all that Bupe. Why is it that I see so many people who post saying theyve been taking like 16 mg a day for 2 years, then only taking 2 days off from it, then feeling their oxy, hydro, whatever, almost to the full effect? Does your body get used to it and does it get rid of it quicker if you've been taking it forever? I just don't understand that
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I have a question for anyone who is using or has used Suboxone regularly... does anyone else get insane sneezing attacks when they were tapering or without Suboxone for a period of time? Every time I start to taper or go off of it entirely, I get these insane sneezing attacks. It's bizarre but I will often sneeze 15-20 times in a row, which usually gives me terrible muscle cramps afterwards. It's happened a few times while driving which was really frightening. This has never happened from heroin WD so I know it is only with Suboxone for me. Anyone else ever have this happen?
 
I would be really careful about doing this. The MMT clinic I used to get Subs from had a lot of people die by mixing those two. I guess in small doses it would probably be fine, but not too many addicts do things in small quantities so be careful. Also, once I had to get dental work done and the bup mixed with the gas knocked me out completely for 3 hours. They didn't know I was taking it when they gave me the gas and after the root canal was finished they tried waking me up and it took them awhile to get me alert again so just be careful with mixing stuff. Even though subs don't get you high, they are still strong.

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buprenorphine + benzos is fun, just keep low doses of both.

And as far as everyone in this thread is concerned, naloxone is an inactive ingredient of suboxone.
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boxcut3 said:
I think everyone is different. I only have to wait 24 hours after my 16mg dose to get high again. It isn't as intense of a high, but it works. After 36 hours I'm good to go at a regular dose. I recognize this is rather unusual though. My doctor is completely confused by it. I first started getting them from a MMT clinic in Seattle and by the time I would arrive the next day to dose I would be sneezing, shaking and water pouring out of my eyes. I had to switch to a private doctor so I could split my dose to twice a day instead of once. I almost wish it lasted longer because I hate putting that shit in my mouth more than once a day.
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Well, today, for the first time since I took them 3 days ago, I haven't been sweating hardcore all over my face, which happens until it is out of my system, so I think i'll feel at least half of my high, if not more, when I take my oxys tonight. Crossing fingers. lol
 
Man, I got some of the 2mg Suboxone tablets today for the first time. I've been on Suboxone over a year. If you want to hear why I got the 2mg tablets today, check out my journal post on it - it is a quick story.

Anyway, I always knew they were a bit smaller, but I was stunned at how small these things are. They aren't about 1/4 the size of the 8mg tablets, as you would expect. They have to be 1/8 of the size. I wish I had an 8mg tablet left so I could weigh it (I'm sure the info is out there somewhere).

You could take one of these tablets out of your bottle, sneeze, and lose it forever. It made me wonder if jasoncrest had ever gotten a hold of these since he bangs them. The ratio of the Buprenorphine to inactive ingredients must be much higher.
 
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