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[LSD Subthread] First time LSD

I find it is very difficult to advise people how to trip and to even begin to describe the effects of such a force like LSD. Since it is rare now a days to come by good clean L there can essentially be no knowing of what you are about to take. People say so many things, but most ultimately will say the same things, sort of like a broken record. Of course you need a comfortable setting, but the last thing you need is the mindset that what your about to ingest may hurt or scare you if you don't have your trip strategy to a tee.
Mindset is everything, it is your ability to understand the non-toxic effects of the LSD, that will do you no physical harm, but it will fuck you up a lot. That's a good thing though, right? Sure music nature blah blah blah. If you have your hands on some real LSD you'll have the time of your life staring at the wall. Get high on it with your friends and sit around talking, making dick jokes, because believe me if THC gives you the giggles LSD will make your sides split.

Like Hoffman describes, under the influence of the drug (it's really what I would consider more of a chemical weapon) your mind will ultimately revert to that of a child like state. As a child it is natural to find unrivaled beauty in things like trees and the sky, as it should only be natural, but as we grow our minds create the filters it does and many begin to dismiss things like this as insignificant. Those who choose to take a lot are opening their minds up to large amounts of suggestibility by others, this is why LSD is effective in psychotherapy sessions, and extremely frightening for some. When the user can be told to simply find a memory or a feeling, it can be done far faster than the sober brain. I have experimented with what would be considered by most extreme doses of LSD and allowed my friends to fuck with my mind. My friend asked me about the first album I ever bought and FLASH in front of my eyes if only for a moment it was me standing in the music store with my mother again. So you see your thoughts themselves seem to become physical while your outside senses produce a mental reaction, or a sensory overload. Like Jimi Hendrix's guitar notes coursing through your body in ecstasy. Lights and different tones of sounds will evoke different responses in your brain and become hallucinations.
LSD has a trip and a high, the high is very pleasant and more prominent in good L. While the trip happens initially the high can remain and more can be ingested for another trip, but this will make the high stronger. I've taken so much L at a point I couldn't trip but could take it to get high and stay up all night, much more fun than using speed. It becomes like riding a bike, but once i was able to wrap my mind around the acid trip, I haven't been the same since. My anxiety is near gone and I can find myself easily in a meditative state when I need to be.

One time I was sitting on the couch higher than a kite and my friend busts out the lightsaber replica (stolen, i would never buy that shit) and proceeds to turn off all the lights. He yells "IMAGINE ME TAKING THIS AND CUTTING YOU AND YOUR GUTS GOING EVERYWHERE AAH" then proceeded to slash me and again FLASH I screamed and thought I had just seen my intestines spill out and then realized what actually happened while he was just laughing at me. LSD makes for a fucking good time. Have some beer handy if the edge gets too edgy. Some IPA or something because it's impossible to get drunk on acid. Lot a fuckin glowsticks. Idk. Don't worry.
 
jimthirteen said:
One time I was sitting on the couch higher than a kite and my friend busts out the lightsaber replica (stolen, i would never buy that shit) and proceeds to turn off all the lights. He yells "IMAGINE ME TAKING THIS AND CUTTING YOU AND YOUR GUTS GOING EVERYWHERE AAH" then proceeded to slash me and again FLASH I screamed and thought I had just seen my intestines spill out and then realized what actually happened while he was just laughing at me.
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lol. I do have an old lightsaber stashed away somewhere, but I probably won't get it out during my first time (although I'm sure it would be an experience).

Thanks for the advice, I'm taking it all on board. My group of friends have all done it before, so I'm taking their advice aswell, but I thought I'd ask the internet (he seems to know alot).

Thanx =D
 
Go in with the knowledge that once the trip is over you will be normal again.. no matter how unreal that statement may seem at the time. ;)
 
jamaica0535 said:
As far as advice, i would say have an ipod with chill music you enjoy, death metal not the greatest for an acid trip imo, Beatles is good... I recommend Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, its such and upbeat album. The white album is a headfuck for me on acid...Have something to write with should you have any ideas that seem amazing at the time, its fun to go back and read the strange things that made so much sense the night before.... if your more the artistic type, have something to draw or paint with.... musical, have your instrument to play, some of the best music has come out of acid trips
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The first time I did weed properly I listened to Pepper's, and it was probably the best thing I've ever heard. I was pretty out of my mind despite it only being weed (at one point I imagined the carpet was grass, but only for a few seconds) I just had the erge to try and draw what I heard, resulting in alot of flowers, trees and hearts. I remember the solo in 'Goodmorning Goodmorning' sounding out of this world. I've yet to try the white album under the influence of anything actually. I suspect that 'Revolution Number 9' would be pretty trippy, I'll keep it in mind for the future.

I have a guitar which is often played under the influence. I have found weed to make my playing much more experimental, but while drunk I play pretty poorly. I'm really interested to see what psychedelics would do for my creativity; it's gonna be a good night.

Thanx for the advice :)
 
emperorofusa said:
The most useful thing I can tell you is that LSD is an experience that is difficult to describe, and even the best attempts and the most well-written trip reports cannot adequately prepare you for all that you will experience. It's certainly an experience to be had.
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I get the impression that nothing will really prepare me for what is going to happen (someone described it like trying to describe a rainbow to a blind man).

However, your comments are helping me build a better picture. I just want to know as much as is possible before trying, even if it doesn't give me an exact picture of what to expect.

Thanx alot :)
 
I know no one wants to here this, and even if you are among that <0.1% of the population who can still get lysergic acid diethylamide (or think you are), please don't overreact to this statement, but the truth is that real acid hasn't been around for about 7 or so years at all on the open drug market.

Scouring the DEA's Microgram journal will confirm this: go to www.dea.gov then do a search for 'microgram bulletin.' It has mentioned two or three lsd seizures in the last seven years at most. The only blotter paper you're likely to encounter will contain something like DOB, DOC, DOI, bromo-dragonfly, or maybe LSA.

If there is any lsd being circulated today in the US anymore, then its use has become completely undetectable, and that was not the case before Pickard's bust.

Yes, taking real lsd for the first time is a monumental experience that nothing probably could prepare you for, but unfortunately, I don't see that happening to you in the near future.
 
^@Rectify

I strongly disagree. Real LSD has been available steadily, and the Pickard bust was a non-issue (well, not for Pickard lol).
 
It's sad as to what gets passed off as acid today, how overpriced it seems to be, how weak it is, how it often causes nausea even after only one or two hits (a dead giveaway for the DOx's), and what's even sadder is that younger users don't even know they are being duped (how could they, though, really?), not that many acid dealers were ever particularly scrupulous to begin with except of course for the true believers, and believe me, there were plenty of them, too.

If and when you ever take true lsd-025, then you will KNOW it:

Your thoughts will race.
You will become overcome with anxiety.
You will have flashes of startling insights and will instantly realize cripplingly obvious truths about yourself and your life that you've always known but could never accept.
You will see cyclical, slow moving mandala like hallucinations emanating from the colorful patterns woven into your parents' Persian rug.
You will laugh uncontrollably for hours on end, sometimes to the point of tears.
You will become closer to God as you understand him.
Your life will be changed forever.
 
delta_9 said:
Seriously though lsd is still around
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I certainly hope so. IF the deal goes through with my contact, I'd really want it to actually be LSD (unless of course these other chemicals give the same effects).

But considering I'm situated in England, the likelihood of my contact actually getting any is pretty slim :( *sigh*

How easy is it for you Americans out there to get hold of any?
 
^Hard to say. Its either pretty easy to find, or damn-near impossible to find -- depending entirely on how well-connected (and lucky) you happen to be.

As distasteful as I find most pseudo-mystical acid lore, there does seem to be a great deal of truth to the saying "You don't find acid, acid finds you."
 
There are many drugs that will make you trip, but there is no substitute for lsd.

As for its availability in America, is was all over the map here for a few years starting in 1993 with the arrival of the Beavis and Butthead design, it was cheap ($1000 for one page, or 1000 hits; $5 for one hit), and it was strong (up to anywhere from 0.3 to 0.5 mg per 1/4'' x 1/4'' hit with 0.1 mg being the industry standard).

As time went on, it got gradually weaker and weaker per hit, and then vanished. Of course, you still had (and have) people claiming to sell "acid," but they are so not. The dire reality of the situation still hasn't sunk in for a lot of us, though I have heard more than one ex-user claim to be glad acid's gone.
 
Armitage Shanks said:
I certainly hope so. IF the deal goes through with my contact, I'd really want it to actually be LSD (unless of course these other chemicals give the same effects).

But considering I'm situated in England, the likelihood of my contact actually getting any is pretty slim :( *sigh*

How easy is it for you Americans out there to get hold of any?
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No drug produces effects exactly like lsd. There are definately similar drugs, but lsd is in a class all it's own IMO.
Rectify said:
As for its availability in America, is was all over the map here for a few years starting in 1993 with the arrival of the Beavis and Butthead design, it was cheap ($1000 for one page, or 1000 hits; $5 for one hit), and it was strong (up to anywhere from 0.3 to 0.5 mg per 1/4'' x 1/4'' hit with 0.1 mg being the industry standard).
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500μg per dose is not likely at all. It's just not cost effective. :\
And yes, DO*s are sold as lsd but they are pretty easy to tell apart. I have no trouble distinguishing between LSD and DO*. Telling different DO*s apart is another story.
 
Yeah, LSD is unmistakably LSD. Especially with its 8-12 hour duration, most compounds don't share this time-frame. It's a rare batch that's laid > 250μg indeed.

And rectify, the price on wholesale LSD seems to have stayed about the same since 1993. :D
 
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I don't know anything about the price of wholesale lsd. (Except that it was $3600 a gram then.) I know that one hit used to cost 5 dollars and today it's more like 10 or 15. And that it sucks now.

Yes, 500 micrograms is unlikely, but it happened to me. The print was called Timothy Leary. I took two and burst out crying at someone else's house while tripping. It was embarassing as fuck at first in a way, but when they realized I was tripping they were quite sympathetic about the incident, really. Not cost effective? My ass! Do you have any idea how very very very cheap 0.5 mg of lsd is to synthesize?

Then I had 300 ug White Fluff and some 300 ug pink blotters (first time!). And coming in fourth place were 140 ug geltabs of various colors--green, red, blue, black and so forth. A GOOD commercial hit was anywhere between 60 ug and 100 ug usually. Weak hits clocked in at 20 ug. Very few hits indeed were anywhere near 250 ug. Hell, it was hard enough to keep your shit together on a 140 ug geltab, especially if you were out in public.

I'm not saying you can't get great lsd still at great prices. (High level family acid has always been laid at 300 ug.) What I am saying is that if that is in fact still the case for you, then you are currently a member of a very small, very fortunate minority. Consider yourself to be blessed.
 
You see, bro. That's where I'm taking issue; I know high school kids that are getting real LSD. I'm in Texas as well, not exactly the most acid-friendly territory. I find it hard to believe that you had great acid connections back in the day and can't find any good 'cid out there, shit that's a real shame, you of all people deserve some bro!
 
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