FDA to Tighten Regulation of Extended-Release and Patch Opioid Meds

I agree about more regulations on the patches, actually. My friend's mom died in her sleep on a duragesic patch. Guess she rolled on top of it and her body heat sped it up. The doctor had switched her directly from Vicodin to fuckin' Duragesic?! Anyway, fentanyl is dangerous shit. People smoking/eating the gel are playing with fire like crazy, and I'd like to see a little bit more regulation in how those get passed out. I was a pain patient at age 18, so I feel the pain (literally) of young people who live with pain because doctors won't prescribe them medication. I'd hate to see them more afraid to prescribe ANYTHING that a patient truly needs, either way, but maybe makin' 'em take a class or pass a quiz at least about the patches and their dangers would be a good idea.
 
The Monkey Mantra said:
I agree about more regulations on the patches, actually. My friend's mom died in her sleep on a duragesic patch. Guess she rolled on top of it and her body heat sped it up. The doctor had switched her directly from Vicodin to fuckin' Duragesic?! Anyway, fentanyl is dangerous shit. People smoking/eating the gel are playing with fire like crazy, and I'd like to see a little bit more regulation in how those get passed out. I was a pain patient at age 18, so I feel the pain (literally) of young people who live with pain because doctors won't prescribe them medication. I'd hate to see them more afraid to prescribe ANYTHING that a patient truly needs, either way, but maybe makin' 'em take a class or pass a quiz at least about the patches and their dangers would be a good idea.
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I can agree with you but from everything they've given me from Hydro, Morphine, Oxycodone, etc... ... ...Fentanyl patches have by far been the best thing for me with the least side effects and have also given my life a normal feeling again. I slap a patch on for three day and forget about it. I feel for your freinds mom though. Vicodin straight to Fentanyl is a horrible idea. I was already up to 120 mg's of Morphine and 60 mg's of Oxycodone for breakthru pain before they switched me to Durasegic Fentanyl Patches. You need to build a BIG tolerance to opiates before you can even think about taking Fentanyl. I know these things are dangerous and kill people though. I can understand that. They really need to find someway to fight the heating releasing more medication issue though! I've read a few stories of this causing bad reactions. For me though fentanyl so far has been a life saver of a pain reliever and I can't put a price on that because nothing was working for me that well before.
 
TheDankaholic said:
I can agree with you but from everything they've given me from Hydro, Morphine, Oxycodone, etc... ... ...Fentanyl patches have by far been the best thing for me with the least side effects and have also given my life a normal feeling again. I slap a patch on for three day and forget about it. I feel for your freinds mom though. Vicodin straight to Fentanyl is a horrible idea. I was already up to 120 mg's of Morphine and 60 mg's of Oxycodone for breakthru pain before they switched me to Durasegic Fentanyl Patches. You need to build a BIG tolerance to opiates before you can even think about taking Fentanyl. I know these things are dangerous and kill people though. I can understand that. They really need to find someway to fight the heating releasing more medication issue though! I've read a few stories of this causing bad reactions. For me though fentanyl so far has been a life saver of a pain reliever and I can't put a price on that because nothing was working for me that well before.
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this is tru, fentanyl can be dangerous, but when it comes to abuse, its pretty rare, its extremely hard to get on the streets were i live, and heroin is verry popular in certain areas nearby, god dammit wut is the FDA/DEA doing??? im SURE much more people die from heroin than fentanyl, only because of its popularity though, here its 15 bucks a bag for heroin, and 30 bucks for an oxy 40??? thats practically .80 a mg for a pill for something not as NEARLY strong as something u can get for half the price that'll whack u outta ur mind 2 times more? thats just crazy, and yes i do know wut im talking about many people i know switched to H because of teh high oxy street prices, unless they stole it from their fuckin grandma pfft :p anyways just watch and see as 10,000 people a year OD heroin and cocaine goes up to 15,000, or more just from the heroin...
 
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Its abuse is not that rare amongst pharmaceutical opiate abusers.

As far as selling, on the street, yes it's rare; because it doesn't follow the same journey as illicit drugs, and it's not as oft prescribed as common street pharms are (xanax, perc's, etc).
 
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or a huge inflation of the already saturated street price of prescription pills due to the great swing of supply and demand
 
rddante said:
I highly doubt that it will reduce overdoses. Just makes it harder to get for those who need it.
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I have to agree with you. I had to go through 10mg codene w/Acetemen. then dilaudid and then the fentinal patch to get relief. I am now back on dilaudid and it helps until I (inject 16mg daily) and finish my rx before the renewal date to get relief. They will not continue the patch.
 
God fuck this program. I had to deal with pain for so long now. I couldn't go to school for a full year. To deal with my pain I need to smoke my brains out so I stay calm. If I dont I get really on the edge. It's been this way ever sense I got taken off pain meds. Everyone said for a year straight "you'll get better".

I had to jump through so many loops right after the injury. I was treated. But then eventually dumped and had to go to as many Dr.s as possible to see if any could help me. I tryed every single drug and only opiods helped my pain.

So I gave up because I was tired of seeing these morons. Finding a good Dr. these days for people that have pain is near imposible. Unlesss your 80 and have a walker.


Btw these stupid Dr.s turn people to the street that have pain. Then they become "criminals"... There going to OD on heroin becuase a Dr. wouldn't help them, and treated them like a junky. Or because there pain is so freaking intense they dont want to live anymore. What i'm saying is having pain is the worst thing in the world.

People use prescription drugs for fun and OD on oxycontin. Well that's there fault, for abusing prescription opiates with a low tolerance. The way I see it is, kid after kid od's. Just making it worse for people that have pain and dont have a good Dr.
 
Wow, this sucks. I've tried numerous times to get some kind of answers/relief from my pain issues, only to be given something like Prozac or Mobic, when both increase the risk of stomach bleeding and I've had NSAID-related gastritis in the past that required emergency care. Sometimes OTC shit just doesn't cut it, not to mention the chronic health effects it can cause when you have to take such high doses for extended lengths of time.

If you're a 20-something female trying to get a doctor to take you seriously, be prepared for what lies ahead: smug, presumptuous comments, 3-minute cattle call doctors visits, and lots of useless "treatment" in the form of SSRIs, sleeping pills, and similar crap. This new DEA campaign is only going to make it that much more hopeless.
 
Yea, this is could result in a potentially horrifying situation regarding heroin. I feel that heroin's popularity is already on a steady rise; a friend of mine has told me that in Birmingham, heroin has suddenly blown up, and a friend of his actually OD'd and died very recently. I lived in Columbia, Missouri for some time and I personally watched heroin spread thru that town like wildfire. That along with the case in West Virginia, with that whole "drug ring" of young adults being busted for heroin distribution that apparantly led to a number of OD's....one has to fear where this is leading......I personally have a really bad feeling that its going to get BIG again, though I certainly hope not, its such an ugly drug. It almost seems like its replacing coke in a sense, sort of like the transition from the 80's to 90's; i have witnessed coke's popularity decrease profoundly...at least locally. Does anyone else feel this way?
 
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This is my first post on bluelight so bare with me i guess. I think that the FDA should think about letting our doctors prescribe what they think will help their patients most, with confidence. All of the pain patches are already highly controlled substances and doctors should not have to worry about the FDA sending them to prison whenever they write patients their pain prescriptions! I think doctors nowadays are already very reluctant to prescribe a opiate patch to anyperson who is not on their deathbed, which i think is a good thing because opiate addiction for me was a living hell. What I am saying is that if the FDA over regulates this drug then i think alot of doctors will just stop prescribing it all together to fend for their own asses, leaving patients in a whole new world or hurt. I also think the FDA's creadibility with people who have chronic and or severe pain would be a factor. For example if I depended on some sort of painpatch for chronic pain to make my life much more livable and if I learned that the FDA was "tightening regulation" on my very important medicine I would be very angry at them for even approving these patches for use in the first place. I just think that the doctors should be the ultimate regulators of these types of opiate meds. :\


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As for a predicted increase in street prices of pharmaceutical opioids...I've already witnessed a dramatic rise in prices in my area...thank you failed economic policies...

Hopefully, heroin will become more available at lower prices to account for the decreased availability of prescription opioids, not that it will affect me (heroin is not available in my area), but for those that want/need their fix, this may end up being a good thing.

I wonder what the behind-closed-doors response has been in the offices of our nation's biggest drug dealers, collectively known as BigPharma. I bet there are some pretty pissed off pharmaceutical execs out there.

We should just cancel all of the drug prohibition departments of the government, save a bunch of money, and generate billions in tax revenue by nationalizing the recreational drug trade. Honestly, use might go up initially, but this would a) be good b/c of generated tax revenue and b) probably stabilize within some unpredictable period.
 
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Hopefully, heroin will become more available at lower prices to account for the decreased availability of prescription opioids, not that it will affect me (heroin is not available in my area),
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^^^not yet. just wait. ;) I never thought heroin was available in my area then I realized it very available and quite popular. actually i think illicit drug manufacturers need to think of some new opiate (or at least a new twist on an old opiate) to officially steal big pharm's customers. Like heroin tablets (to make the switch from OC to heroin less of a big deal) or heroin lollypops or maybe smoke able fentynol "tar."

Yeah this is all so fucked up. I really hate the war on drugs. I can't really even type anything about it, it pisses me off so much. I wanna go off on a rant :X

IMO if someone wants who shoot fucking drain-o in their veins they should be able to. it's impossible to legislate morality.
 
Man wtf. This is fucked up in so many ways. Okay so some kids are dumb and dont know what the hell there doing when they fuck with OC and die. But for the real people in pain like myself who allready has a hard time getting anything to help, its gonna be near impossible. Your allready blacklisted if you have any documented history of substance abuse which i do. Your basically blacklisted if your under the age of like 35 or so which i am. The meds are allready controlled to a ridiculous extent there is a reason that oxycontin and the patches and shit are time released allready. I mean you cant make a medicine child proof or should i say "junkie proof". If people want to abuse opiates they will find a way. I mean come on people are microwaving crushed up pills to snort and shoot. Dont they think that there are some chemist junkies out there that will find a way to bypass all there anti abuse regulations? And yes this will prolly make heroin widespread. Right now where i live it isnt accesible but i can see that changing. This all has to do with the mighty dollar. Do these people not realize there more addicted to money than anyone ever will be thats not abusing there meds?
 
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We should just cancel all of the drug prohibition departments of the government, save a bunch of money, and generate billions in tax revenue by nationalizing the recreational drug trade. Honestly, use might go up initially, but this would a) be good b/c of generated tax revenue and b) probably stabilize within some unpredictable period.

i like that last part spaceface. gunna have to play devils advocate here again, and use the old line "would you want crack and heroin sold at the corner store?" (well, im sure a lot of people would) and this is an obvious exageration to all out drug nationalization. i was a fairly heavy heroin used for 4 years (heroin and every other pain pill i could get my hands on) and in my opinion the only reason im clean now, with thanks to bup, is that i dont have anywhere to get heroin anymore, its a lot easier to cut off ties with some people than know there is a state sponsered place to get high in your city. then again, this war on drugs thing is total bullshit, a waste of money and tearing a lot of people and families lives apart. as a sidenote, in maine the heroin is way expensive, and oxys are between 60 cents to 1 dollar a milligram, i cant imagine how much they will be if even less perscriptions are given out (btw, i think maine has the highest per capita opiate pill addiction rate in the US)
 
I actually discussed this on 2/1 in OD I believe, and it is meant to counter-act all the ignorant prescribing of methadone for Chronic Pain et al, although it will include all similarly classed substances. All it is is a bit more training which of course will in turn limit the number of MDs prescribing them. The FDA is looking for headlines, since they are now acting to counter act the imporvements made in prescirbing of pallative substances after the huge brouhaha with the DEA in the late 90s, thatw as supposed to ease up the restrictions against MDs in prescribing them in the first place!
 
2oclockbeanfiend.2 said:
someone told me that roxicodone is NONEXISTANT in south florida
regular 80s are still around
but the "blues" (30mg instant-release oxycodone - roxicodone) that everyeone is so in love with are GONE
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Noooo. Thats certainly not the case, at least in Tampa they are fucking everywhere, way more prevelant than the 80's. The prices just recently went up on both the blues and the 80's tho...
 
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