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Random DXM questions: The Higher Ground

Hey guys! New user here but long time "user" heaviest in late 96 to early 98. The past few years the only thing I've done is Salvia (which gave me the most intense visuals i have EVER experienced and lead me to believe in eternal recurrence) and I did something I bought off ebay called DMAA POWDER YOHIMBE GUARANA KRATOM EXTRACT I don't even know but it was gross and I puked from it probably from taking too much. The high was lame too.

Yesterday, a friend of mine told me about DXM and I spent all day researching it and bought two bottles of delsym from an online pharmacy that should be here Wed. This is what I bought ... Delsym Extended-Release Suspension 12 Hour Cough Relief, Orange Flavored
Liquid 5 fl oz (148 ml).

In Dec. I caught a cold and felt like partying so I bought this HUGE bottle of like 200 benadryl and 5 bottles of NyQuil. I'm 6ft and weigh about 225 so I was wondering what I can expect from drinking these two bottles?

My ALL TIME fav experience from ANYTHING (and I did a little of everything in my "hardcore" party days) was Ketamine and I only did that twice. I understand this is like that. If that's so, I'm in for a HELLUVA good time! Can anyone tell me what they think a first timer to DXM with my "experience" is going to get from this?

I read some of your posts about "thought provoking insights" during use. I'm VERY into philosophy and am considering even going back to college to get a phil. degree so should I expect more "acid like" thoughts than "salvia like" visuals?

Also, during the first or second plateau can I watch a few sci-fi movies and feel pretty good? Back in 1996 or 95 on my first x trip I watched the Empire Strikes Back and it appeared in 3D HAHA! I'm a sci-fi wannabe writer and all around geek and love all different kinds of music except all country and most rap and wanted also to know if techno music is a good choice for this trip?

Thanks guys!
 
Drinking two bottles of nyquil, you can expect to overload your liver with acetaminophin, get sleepy from the antihistamines, and probably feel all-around nasty. If you want to try DXM use robitussin max-strength cough syrup or robitussin cough gels (both containing only DXM). Also, Delsym contains DXM Polistirex, which is much trickier to dose and has a different charachter (less intense, much longer lasting, and harder to jusge effects vs. dose).

Bar that, everything else sounds good. Techno isn't my favorite, but the constant rhythm can be good (I prefer classical music or anything by The Orb). Music euphoria is tremendous on DXM, particularily 2nd plateau, so whatever you like will sound that much better. Watching movies on the 1st/2nd plateaus is fun, but anything above that will cause you to keep losing the plot line and become hugely confused about the plot, if you haven't seen it before.

Also, visuals, in my experience, are little or nothing like LSD or tryptamines. They are much more realistic and less abstaract than visuals from mushrooms or lysergamides, and mostly restricted to CEV's in all but high-dose situations.

DXM is for me a very philosophical drug, but as you can see by the posts, its not for everyone, and needs several experiences to get a feeling for it. Before you take DXM, at least skim the DXM FAQ at http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml . The more you know about this chemical, or any, the more you can gain from the experience.
Enjoy!
 
Thanks for the info. I've been researching the past two days. I'm not drinking NyQuil. I did that in Dec. This is what I ordered Delsym Extended-Release Suspension 12 Hour Cough Relief, Orange Flavored
Liquid 5 fl oz (148 ml).
Will that be cool?
 
I've had a fickle relationship with DXM, but I am just now beginning to get a feel for it. My last trip was quite amazing, and my dose was relatively low at a little over 300mg. CEVs were some of most intense I've ever experienced. I was having profound visions of a futuristic Earth, and I saw astounding new technology and exotic architecture. I was lost in the most transcendent ether...

It was very physically uncomfortable, though. I think I may have to just put up the extra scratch for some pills, because my tummy can't take that icky syrup. I want to try for a third plateau experience, but I think I need to get a few more mild trips under my belt. To think I had once written this drug off completely...but I would still rather get a shitload of ketamine.
 
NeosMatrix said:
This is what I ordered Delsym Extended-Release Suspension 12 Hour Cough Relief, Orange Flavored
Liquid 5 fl oz (148 ml).
Will that be cool?
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It will have an affect, but I would really recomend using the cough gels at an inital dose of 240 mg for a low 2nd plateau dose as a first time trial. The delsym is just more diffcult to judge a decent dose , and if the effects are unpleasant/too intense, it lasts much longer (2-4x longer).

I would seriously recommend using just DXM Hydrobromide for your first time, you'll get a much better feel for the substance, and are at less liability for a protractedly unpleasant experience. Plus, the gels are a damn sight easier to take than drinking a syrup that tastes like gritty orange-julius extract, and cause very little/no nauseau. One bottle of pills is no more expensive than a bottle of delsym (possibly cheaper), so its a much better investment IMO. Whatever you decide, stay safe and enjoy. :)
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
It will have an affect, but I would really recomend using the cough gels at an inital dose of 240 mg for a low 2nd plateau dose as a first time trial. The delsym is just more diffcult to judge a decent dose , and if the effects are unpleasant/too intense, it lasts much longer (2-4x longer).

I would seriously recommend using just DXM Hydrobromide for your first time, you'll get a much better feel for the substance, and are at less liability for a protractedly unpleasant experience. Plus, the gels are a damn sight easier to take than drinking a syrup that tastes like gritty orange-julius extract, and cause very little/no nauseau. One bottle of pills is no more expensive than a bottle of delsym (possibly cheaper), so its a much better investment IMO. Whatever you decide, stay safe and enjoy. :)
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Thanks for the advice! But, wouldn't i have to take 40 pills? I looked up and found a website and this is what i found....Robitussin CoughGels, Liqui-gels 20 ea our price: $6.49 Active Ingredients: Dextromethorphan HBr USP (15 mg)
How many of those would be good for a first timer? I looked up the FAQ on Erowid and tried to calculate my body weight to a 4th plateau and it LOOKED like 19 OZ. of Delsym syrup! Is that right for 6ft 250lbs? I can't IMAGINE taking that much!
 
At 15 mg per pill, 240 mg = 16 pills. Also remember, Delsym has a distinctly different feel at lower doses than hydrobromide, owing to the edible plastic coating that makes it extended release.

Bottom line is you can't accurately predict how much Delsym it will take to get to a particular plateau, particularly if you have no prior experience w/ your bodies metabolism of this drug. There are a small minority of individuals who are deficient in a certain enzyme, I believe CYP2D6, but don't quote me on that. For such individuals, dosages that should have little or no effect (ie, ~100 mg) can be much more intense than predicted, and "standard" doses can turn nightmarish. Until you know how your body reacts, stick w/ hydrobromide, and if you really want to play it safe, eat 100 mg a day or two in advance to make sure you don't have the deficiency (though its pretty unlikely). And, as a precaution against nausea (which, with DXM, can be especially toxic-feeling) it wouldn't hurt to buy a packet of Dramamine 2 Non-drowsy formula (meclizine HCL), its a lifesaver against nausea; 25-50 mg will work wonders.

Plus, I've noticed that everyone defines the 4 plateaus of DXM in slightly different ways, and have their own personal "road map" of the effects and respective dosages. For example, my first third plateau experience was off of approximately 400-450 mg, which the FAQ labels as 2nd, its not nearly as clear cut as so many mg/kg, which are more general guidelines.

And also, not to overstate the obvious, but its best to approach the DXM experience gradually. While I think there is at least some argument for having an intense initial experience with something like mushrooms or mescaline, DXM can catch many people off guard, owing to its wide range of physical and mental effects, and its generally alien and unpredictable quality. I feel that its one of those substances that requires more initial preparation to appreciate, but to my mind its well worth the effort. Hope this helps!
 
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Mr. Tambourine Man said:
At 15 mg per pill, 240 mg = 16 pills. Also remember, Delsym has a distinctly different feel at lower doses than hydrobromide, owing to the edible plastic coating that makes it extended release.

Bottom line is you can't accurately predict how much Delsym it will take to get to a particular plateau, particularly if you have no prior experience w/ your bodies metabolism of this drug. There are a small minority of individuals who are deficient in a certain enzyme, I believe CYP2D6, but don't quote me on that. For such individuals, dosages that should have little or no effect (ie, ~100 mg) can be much more intense than predicted, and "standard" doses can turn nightmarish. Until you know how your body reacts, stick w/ hydrobromide, and if you really want to play it safe, eat 100 mg a day or two in advance to make sure you don't have the deficiency (though its pretty unlikely). And, as a precaution against nausea (which, with DXM, can be especially toxic-feeling) it wouldn't hurt to buy a packet of Dramamine 2 Non-drowsy formula (meclizine HCL), its a lifesaver against nausea; 25-50 mg will work wonders.

Plus, I've noticed that everyone defines the 4 plateaus of DXM in slightly different ways, and have their own personal "road map" of the effects and respective dosages. For example, my first third plateau experience was off of approximately 400-450 mg, which the FAQ labels as 2nd, its not nearly as clear cut as so many mg/kg, which are more general guidelines.

And also, not to overstate the obvious, but its best to approach the DXM experience gradually. While I think there is at least some argument for having an intense initial experience with something like mushrooms or mescaline, DXM can catch many people off guard, owing to its wide range of physical and mental effects, and its generally alien and unpredictable quality. I feel that its one of those substances that requires more initial preparation to appreciate, but to my mind its well worth the effort. Hope this helps!
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Ok, but I already bought the two 5 oz bottles of it so I'm thinking of trying out some of the 5oz when it comes in the mail Wed. How much dosage should I do? I'm broke or I'd buy the gels. That will be next month if I like the effects from an initial trial of it in delsym.

And I have a friend that was telling me about this and peeked my curiousity into DXM and he's ALWAYS drank the Delsym. He said he's NEVER puked and has done it over 100 times and experimented with the different ways to ingest it OTC. He said when he did the gel caps was the ONLY time he puked because the gels have to digest. Can you take them slowly or something? I mean NyQuil is horrible to injest on your liver I'm sure as well as benadryl and i took SOOOOOOOO much of that in Dec. over a 4-5 day period and never felt sick at all. I know the effects are different of course. Anyone else have an opinion?
 
Well, I've got some good news and some bad news. First the bad news! I looked online for Robitusin Max strength oline and found it. Also, looked up the gel caps you spoke of. Seems all the robitussin gels claim to be "narcotic free" online, come in a new paclage and....

I went to Wal-mart today and the only Robitusins they had all had EXTRA ingredients like alcohol 1% and more other garbage. And the gels (same 20 ct. by Robitusin) do indeed say narcotic free. So, if you want to get this stuff and know where get it now before it disappears!

Now the good news.... they had delsyxm 5 oz. bottles to I bought two. I intend to start my trip in 4 hours. Can't wait!
 
Drank the two bottles of Delsym about 20 minutes ago. My lips are numb and music sounds kind of cool but not too much effect yet. We'll see. Got 6 hours of music playing on my ipod mix to listen to. Got ALIENS playing on my tv with the music as the soundtrack. The syrup didn't make me sick AT ALL! I chugged one bottle holding my nose and took some water after. Drank second bottle 10 minutes later. Like i thought since I was sooooo used to nyQuil this wasn't going to be bad. All around I'll post throughout the night unless i trip too hard to type.
 
Search me for Delsym.

First of all what ya wanna do is drink the Delsym, 1 bottle, with some regular Dex from Gel Caps or something.

The Delsym lasts 12 hours, and Dex is usually 6 hours. So its basically two doses spaced out.

Delsym does go down smooth.

Mr Tambourine man, you and I need to do some talking. Were on the same level and I love it.

Only our levels are reversed. Like strangely, I find dex takes me down to earth where normally I feel a little separated.

To everybody tellin me my "life doesnt feel real" thinking is from drugs, wrong. I've always had those thoughts. Sometimes I feel like life is a dream that I'm about to wake from.
 
if I remember a 5oz bottle of delsym is 1440mg of DXM Poly. So you took 2880mg of DXM poly which is like 1440mg of DXM HBr, so I don't think you'll be posting much longer. Have fun at a high third/low fourth plat. <3 good vibes
 
You speak truth friend.

I personally dont think its healthy for people to drink two delsyms cause then you are super fucked for a long time.

Its probably much easier on the gray matter to do as I mentioned, 1 delsym and some hbr.
 
I'm having a blast now! I went from a little bit of numb lips to what I think now MIGHT be a 3rd plateua. Any familiar music you listen to sounds sooooooo awesome on it. Tv is blah! Like someone said before you don't care what is on tv. I have aliens on and at first it was "fair" and colorful now it's just like my tv sucks.
 
^If you can type a coherent sentence on a computer then you are not even close to a 3rd plateau... you're probably somewhere in the 1st plateau right now.

At 3rd plateau you can barely move as you are sucked down the rabbit hole... no way you'd be posting on bluelight.

Also remember that DXM usually takes around 3 hours to fully kick in.
 
I'm pretty out of it. It's really a clean fun high. I don't know what plateau i'm on. DEF. not nasty like salvia. Or even lsd. I "feel" cleansened right now. If that makes any sense as I'm' trippin? LIke it purifies your soul. Something.
 
^It does purify your soul. Remember this. But if you want it to stay that way, you have to treat it with the greatest respect and never play around or party with it.

If you bring your love to DXM, it will return that love 1000 times over.

Have a good trip :)
 
heh. behold the reason for my love of psychedelics:

its a voice saying to me: "Here is reality. You cannot hide."
 
I'm still up trippin. Seen some crazy things and still going strong I guess. i've got lots of good music and a motion loops dvd playing on my tv. Alice in chains now sounding prety good~
 
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