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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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Crankinit said:
Not really much point. If you don't like it, you've wasted time and money, and put yourself through an unenjoyable high. If you do like it, you'll end up getting more into it (there's no such thing as just once, and usually no such thing as just occasionally, if you enjoy meth), waste more money, and fall into the whole trap of meth use and all the issues it entails.
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Agree.

There's really nothing good that comes out of trying crystal meth once, IMO... you're either going to love and it and it'll become the rest of your life, or you're going to hate it. My friends that have tried it once and hated it said it was the worst drug they'd ever tried... (don't understand that 8)). Plus the comedown is so freaking bad, I don't know why you'd want to put yourself through that. And both of those are a day in the sun compared to meth addiction..

So yeah, I say say away from the crystal :)
 
Cface said:
The one thing i learned that really gets you off meth is severing all ties from anyone that uses it (all my friends). I had to move two states over to get away from all my connections (for all my drugs). And if it weren't for that i'd DEFINITELY still be smoking meth. I still crave it, but i've got no way of getting it now. I'd sure as hell sell my tv or my dog to get some right about now, but it's just impossible!

Like my mother said to me, sometimes you gotta know your limitations and get out. Maybe what you need to do is something a bit more drastic.

But i'm no saint, i'm moving back home in a week and i already made a call...


Good luck making it through it all guys.
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Ditto, where I'm at I could get it but won't bother as it's through someone I met at a place of work and it was during a drunken conversation that I managed to get the information needed to score. I've decided to not go there. This is the 3rd jump of state in Australia I've done to escape essentially myself- along with all connections- and while it is a self made trap of sorts I can still easily escape and score, it's just not as easy.

The main thing that's helped is replacing it with therapy, meds for the brain fuck, talking about it openly on bluelight and to a therapist (not to friends/family who don't understand anymore- big mistake), and yes a bit of alcohol, cigarettes and a bit of weed.

Weed isn't a worry, I don't feel any attraction to it but alcohol is a problem, so I have made a resolve to set a limit per day and try to keep to it.

But not having a tee total time now, its just too hard to do!

Also having friends and a boyfriend who has no unrealistic expectations on me helps!

Meth is still attractive to me for the instant hit of confidence and energy and just to feel better about myself. For 10 minutes. :p It then brings on paranoia, more cravings, psychotic hallucinations, and then guilt for having done it.

I feel no guilt as I'm not on it.

Feels good man!
 
psynirvana01 said:
i'm thinking about trying crystal once..i'm not worried about addiction cuz i'm wayy more of a downer person and didn't even like the feelings adderall gives me, so i think i could try it once then quit..
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It's that first time that'll get you man. I love my downers, but i just fell totally head-over-heels in love with meth, not so much for the speediness, but rather that fantastic euphoria!

You may not get fully addicted to it, but you'll be dreaming about it and thinking about it. But if you think you can handle, do as you please.
 
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zephyr said:
Meth is still attractive to me for the instant hit of confidence and energy and just to feel better about myself. For 10 minutes. :p It then brings on paranoia, more cravings, psychotic hallucinations, and then guilt for having done it.
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this is exactly wat it does to me now too....well last time i did it
wudnt stop me if i was put in a vulnerable place - thats addiction for u 8)
so i avoid those vulnerable places
u shud b proud of ur journey, zeph - i know it hasnt bn easy <3
 
Cface said:
The one thing i learned that really gets you off meth is severing all ties from anyone that uses it (all my friends). I had to move two states over to get away from all my connections (for all my drugs). And if it weren't for that i'd DEFINITELY still be smoking meth. I still crave it, but i've got no way of getting it now. I'd sure as hell sell my tv or my dog to get some right about now, but it's just impossible!

Like my mother said to me, sometimes you gotta know your limitations and get out. Maybe what you need to do is something a bit more drastic.

But i'm no saint, i'm moving back home in a week and i already made a call...


Good luck making it through it all guys.
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The first time I quit meth this worked (parents moved into a new city, didn't know any users) and I was clean for about three months. I craved and craved it but I couldn't find it anywhere, and eventually the desire sort of subsided. However, then I found it by accident and relapsed within 1 hour of that discovery. :|

Now... I don't know, event that won't stop me. I've flown to other states to get drugs if it was dry/I couldn't find a connect (best being stealing my father's credit card to fly down to LA and buy heroin, coming back to S.F. with him waiting at the aiprot with security). Plus, I have an incredibly knack for seeking out tweakers/coke heads anywhere 8o

So I agree with you, if you're going to quit meth that is definitely the way to do it. You can't get better as long as you're sucked into the tweaker-culture. However, you've still got to have the motivation and drive to do it. :(
 
^Hah no.

Basically, my father convinced my roommate I had been in an accident and he needed to search my room for proof of identity/insurance or some ridiculous shit that my tweaked-out roommate bought… found my stash of heroin and linked that with stealing his credit card to go to LA…

I was about o leave the airport when I saw him standing next to security… he walked up to me and told me he knew I had bought drugs and to give them to him or he would ask security to search me. I sort of nodded like “I give up” and he turned around, at which I took the opportunity to run as fast as I possibly could, until I realized about seven minutes later that no one was chasing after me…one of the most horrible/devastating moments of my life (basically realized that my parents were done with trying to help me and had given up, which I don't really blame them for, but still).

I found out later from my mom he never talked to security about me, he was asking the guy some questions about working in airport security to try and freak me out enough to give it up.

Honestly though, that was the worst thought of drug plan one could possibly have. I don't know exactly what I thought a good outcome could possibly be...

Uplifting story :D
 
Yeeeaaah. :D

My one claim to fame as a drug addict would be that despite probably consuming 80% of the total drgus I've consumed in my life in public areas, I've never been arrested/picked up/questioned about drugs by an officer before about drugs... hoping to keep it that way. ;)
 
Haha if only I was so lucky!
Hanging around the type I do day in day out, inevitably leads to police investigation.
I have not been to jail - but I am lucky not to have been.
My phone was tapped last year, I got a tip off and threw it out.
Before that I was found with 4 grams of shards and 20 pills. I was seventeen so I avoided jailtime.
Thank god.:|
 
Damn girl 8o haha

Glad you're still here with us! Jail is not fun, and you're a bit too pretty to go :( haha.

I'm the most paranoid person around cops though, even if I've done nothing illegal/don't plan to. I was driving yesterday and saw a cop car behind me... drove as far away/out of the way as possible to avoid them, didn't even have drugs on me... even sober they freak me out! :(
 
I figured I'd post this song here..It really captures the feeling...I am starting to feel less like the walking dead..its been 3 days...amp psychosis. Gonna sleep soon.


Got plenty of friends i'd like you to meet
in my life and my world and its all at my feet
got a box of good records from the back of the rack
im driving 90 miles an hour in a fucking speed trap
got a grin on my face and i know when to react
got a bag in my hand and the world at my back
try to feed the disease its not as easy as it seems
been awake for 3 days coming apart at the seams

ohh im a zombie
been awake for 3 days
ill sleep enough when im dead
in the meantime im stayin awake

wanna scream wanna play with my girlfriend all day
make a mess get undressed and FUCK it all away
fried hair fried brain bitch and complain
im driving 90 miles an hour in the passing lane
im on bottom on top im inside and im bent
changing faces in the phone booth
like i was clark kent
its alright its ok ive been awake for 3 days
doing fine but my mind is slipping away

ohh im a zombie
been awake for 3 days
ill sleep enough when im dead
in the meantime im stayin awake

everything falls apart read the signs on the wall
peice of mind will decay
deconstruction all be dead feel no pain
intoxicate numb the mind inebriate
pull the plug!
my eyes wide open wanna pull the plug

Feel no spirit
should i forfeit
peices dont quite fit
 
^well written words (did u write it?)
the one i always like best that captures the realistic true disgustingness and difficulty in giving up crystal meth is 'Semi-Charmed Life' by Third Eye Blind
if u dont know it (it was a popular song in the 90s) look it up on youtube - see if u can find the version that has the words written out as they sing the song cos its fast-paced and hard to catch the words to otherwise
otherwise just google the words to it

i hav a cop paranoia still even tho i no longer break the law in any way
but meth has left me with a lot of paranoia/anxiety - its ruined me in that way
i no longer feel comfortable in crowds - i feel like evryones staring at me
i feel like ppl can read my thoughts and therefore try hard not to think about certain things wen im out in public
im also always thinking ppl dont like me, seemingly irrationally
oh its better than it was but theres no doubt its ruined me in some ways...
 
I generally just ride out the come-down with sleeping pills and nothing else, but I woke up today after crashing for 10 hours and I have never felt this horrible emmotionally/physically in my life, I don't even know how to make it through the rest of the day without just lying in my bed and crying right now.

5htp does nothing for me, what can I take (besides meth dosing again) to try and get all the shit in my brain I've fucked up that's making me more depressed than hell right now fixed somewhat?
 
5-htp is better for E comedowns - its more for serotonin deficiency
methamphetamine does fuck with ur serotonin to some degree but not as much as it does with ur dopamine
id b trying l-tyrosine before any other supplement - fish oil is gd for brain reparation but im not sure about the depression side of things

other useful supplements for 'meth depression' r
-acerola cherry extract
-grape seed extract
-deer velvet
-methionine
but start with l-tyrosine :)
 
You guys ever found that l-tyrosine gives you a really dry mouth?

I never had that problem when I would take it for a day or two after my big weekends, I started taking it daily two or three days ago just as a mood improvement thing and I've had really bad cottonmouth since.
 
Never had it. The crash is something I always avoided by either staying high on meth (I could sleep on it fine ) or in periods where I was using extremely heavily I would take benzo if I had it or heroin to come down.

Then if I woke up and was craving I would just take more meth. Lol.

Coming off it cold turkey was a nightmare.
 
anyone find ampheatmine usage affecting mdma rolls? mdma rolls aren't the same for me anymore and i think it's because the dopamine receptors responsible for the energetic feeling of both mdma and amphetamines are fucked up, so now mdma rolls don't have the same hyper feel
 
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