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Here it is. Very strong trip for me. It was a trip I came back to the psychedelic world with (before that I had just done the classics and explored a bit with 5-meo-DMT from JLF). It breaks my heart to read the gentle words of this little guy...things were so much simpler 2 years ago for me. Some things have happened in 2008 which have really changed my consciousness. I still love life...but life is...much different now than it was then.

samadhi smiles said:
DOSE: T+ 0:00 5 g oral Syrian Rue (extract)
T+ 0:25 68 mg oral DMT (capsule)


Here is a trip report wherein I dosed 1.36mg/kg of DMT combined with a MAOI (syrian rue). I have a few reasons for writing this trip report. Primarily, it acts as a way for me to synthesize the experience as well as provide information to those who may be researching using this combination.

There were a few aspects of my trip that stood out to me, in retrospect, in comparison to similar trip reports I have read online. First, the onset of the trip was extremely rapid (less than 15 minutes). Second, there were extreme and persistent auditory hallucinations that would characterize the first 90 minutes of the trip. These two points may be of interest to somebody. Then there were more common aspects which should be noted up front - extreme open/closed eye visuals, separation from body and mind, trouble focusing on tasks, vomiting, gas, etc.

Before I get into the actual trip report, I should provide some quick background details. I am a moderately experienced (so to speak) psychedelic user. I've used mushrooms and LSD approximately 30-40 times, 5-meo-dmt two times, and MDMA a handful of times. This would be my first time trying DMT and also my first time experiencing a psychedelic in over four years.

Set: My mindset is positive and happy. I spent the afternoon preparing myself, gathering supplies together, listening to music, chatting to a friend on the phone, spending some time in meditation, etc.

Setting: A fairly remote ~10 acre horse pasture. I am familiar with this area and knew it was very unlikely that I would be disturbed. The horses were pretty far from me, a quarter mile or more. My trip took place on a west-facing slope, with the late afternoon sun shining, hunkered down in an enclosed nook of grass/flowers. The dosing began at 5:30pm (the sun, at this time of year, sets around 7:30pm).

T+0:00: I drink the syrian rue extract - tastes bitter but is manageable. I get up, and walk towards the horses and feed them bits of grass while I wait for the MAOI to take effect.

T+0:20: I am noticing the first effects of the MAOI - sedation and a mild body buzz. It is neither pleasant nor unpleasant. Slight bit of gas.

T+0:25: The DMT goes down the hatch, in a capsule. I am definitely feeling the MAOI effects now – a drugged narcotic feeling, minus any euphoria.

T+0:30: I burp and taste what I guess is the DMT. Pretty foul and my stomach turns but nothing drastic.

T+0:35: I am noticing visual distortion - grasses and flowers are waving back and forth in the air very strangely. They will wave as with the wind (this was a calm day) and then start vibrating very uniformly. I am surprised I am feeling the effects this soon. I check my watch and notice that I still have control over mental functions. I take my pulse very quickly and it comes out to be 75 (my resting pulse is 60).

T+0:40: I hear someone say out loud, 'Wow!' and realize it is my voice. Green and orange patterns are starting to spiral out of the sky. There is a brief moment of panic/anxiety. I focus on my breathing, noticing how deep and long it takes for just one breath to cycle through.

T+0:50: I am now fully tripping. Colors around me are furious, mad, spiraling, pulsing. I remember green and orange the most vividly (these are colors I most often have experienced on LSD/psilocybin, or perhaps these two colors I just tend to focus on in the throes of intense visuals). I also remember blue diamonds embedded, deep inside these orange/green spirals. I had been thinking earlier about the structure of galaxies, spirals, discs, etc. The spiral pattern was the most prevalent of the visuals. A persistent and extremely loud auditory hallucination begins. Buzzing and ringing - like high voltage electricity or insects perhaps. A bit of stereophonic accompaniment to the visual patterns – the buzzing would sometimes pulse in time with the visuals a la weird dissonant techno music. This continued for approximately 30 minutes off and on and then left to not return.

T+0:55: This phase of the trip was a rocky settling in to the experience. For a little while I will admit I did not feel welcome in this strange, strange DMT land. I felt the question was posed to me, “what the fuck are you doing here?”

T+1:00: It is a little scary. I'm forgetting what it is like to not be experiencing this. Without thinking, I rock forward and projectile vomit, very hard, multiple times. I vomit on my hands and on my feet. I begin thinking about the nature of thought and cognition (a field I've been studying recently). I am grasping onto this idea of what it is like the moment before a concept is retrieved/accessed in one's mind. I begin thinking of myself as composed of only physical matter. I realize the concepts I have physically exist in front of me (they resemble colorful bubbles). Things were not exactly firing as normal in my brain (to say the least, right!). I was caught in a cycle of arising thoughts that I can’t even exactly remember what they were now. A thought would begin to form, then dissipate, and then begin to form again, over and over.

T+1:30: At this point these time estimates are only a guess. I tried, and failed, to check my pulse and then I tried and failed to check the time on my watch. I was still experiencing quite a bit of intense open eye patterns. But at this point I could more clearly see physical reality around me, but just could not process it. Strangely enough, my sense of feel was much more sharp and I could function, as if blind, by feeling for the zipper of my backpack and opening it up to retrieve a jacket (by this time the temperature had dropped to maybe 55 degrees). Here began a very complex part of my trip that I don't quite understand now. I started focusing on the theme of Warmth and the need I had for it. I was a little chilled, probably, but nothing drastic enough to necessitate this dwelling of my thoughts. This idea of Warmth came to represent safety and familiarity to me. I remember curling up into a fetal position (before I managed to execute the task of opening my backpack and retrieving my jacket) and experiencing Warmth, eyes closed, patterns assaulting. This was not altogether unpleasant. It was like a great discovery - Yes! Warmth exists!

T+2:00: I am still tripping very hard but things are more manageable. With my jacket on my problem of Warmth is solved and also I discover my water bottle and drink some water, which helps the vomit taste in my mouth go away. At some point here (or was it before) I spent a large chunk of time with my eyes closed, lost in the incredibly detailed and overwhelming visual patterns.

T+2:30: Here begins perhaps the most beautiful part of my trip. I finally figure out how to lay back and look up at the stars, which have been out for a little while now. They are beautiful, sparkling, and swirling. Their sheen is a light, translucent pink and I am in complete awe at reality. I sit up and look behind me and realize I am 'looking back' at my childhood and begin crying very hard for a few minutes. For the first time in the trip I begin thinking about my family, who I am very close to. I imagine each member, focus on our relationship, and cry a bit more.

T+2:40: Laying back down and focusing on the stars I start to see them descend lower and come toward me. One drops down onto the ground beside me and I feel a very close affinity toward it. I begin crying again.

T+3:00: My open-eyed visual field is still very distorted, things are bending and waving, especially if I stare at them long enough. My general process of sight is still not functioning. I get up and stumble around the pasture, stepping into horse shit, crashing through stands of tall grass and encountering trees (which I took some time touching and feeling before I understood what they were). I never find the group of horses, which I was vaguely searching for (which is all well and good because they were probably sleeping and did not want to be contacted by a DMT-bemused wild-child!). I do find tiny little luminescent bugs in the grass. I initially think these are stars scattered around the grass but I spend enough time looking at one to realize that it is probably a bug and not a star (or a piece of a star).

T+3:30: I am still very much 'under the influence' and drugged, my coordination is off and I stumble more than walk straightly (although if I concentrate on my balance I can master it). But, the visual distortions have subsided. I probably could of dealt with talking with another person (or so I thought at the time at least), but I would have preferred not to. I head toward my truck and finally arrive at it and sit inside listening to Vivaldi for about 20 minutes or so. I turn off the music and crawl into the back and pile a couple sleeping bags up on top of me and lay there thinking about my life. I originally planned to sleep out under the stars, but find I am much more secure and comfortable in my truck, snuggled under lots of material. I actually don't fall asleep for some 5 more hours, drifting in and out of thoughts, emotions, and body sensations.

T+8:30: I wake up, urinate outside, eat a peanut butter sandwich, and drift back to sleep until the glorious sun rises and illuminates the world.

Conclusion: This was a very strong trip for me. I think a lot of subtle things happened to me during the course of the more overt and obvious drug-like effects. How strange it is to return to the intense world of psychedelics after four years of largely not even considering them! DMT is uniquely its own thing, as others have said, which definitely should be treated with respect and consideration. I mentioned that during part of the trip I did not feel entirely welcome in the DMT space. I will be curious, then, to experiment with smoking DMT in a more controlled/stabile environment to see if I can become more familiar with the world and the methods one can go about interacting with that which inhabits it.

~Peace and Love~
 
^the only time i tried snowboarding i went down the hill ~20-30 ft, fell and broke my arm.
that was it with snowboarding for me. I was quite a rollerblader back in high school though.

so im stuck at work till 10pm today :( ugh
luckily i brought a one hitter with me today, so if i get really really bored i can take a couple hits and it will alleviate my boredom for an hour or two.

Really? I rollerblade, it's still a huge part of my life. I'm so thankful for it, all of my best friends I met through rollerblading.
 
I felt the question was posed to me, “what the fuck are you doing here?”

The same question was posed to me today.

I visited the court of The DMT King (I have to write it in caps, don't ask why), and obviously I was interrupting something or otherwise intruding. He was like, "oh so you came back for more, eh? well I'll give it to you" (at this point, for some reason I had a feeling I had been there before, like deja vu) Then The King proceeded to shatter my mind into tiny pieces and show me what it was made from. Then things got a little crazy. I'm not sure what happened, monsters, royal servants ordered to slap me around, things were getting scary so I decided to open my eyes, which usually returns me to reality. Oh no, it doesn't work. I see the real world but the trip goes on. I get stuck in some kind of a time loop, the same things happen again and again and again, for eternity. I realize The DMT King has cursed me and I will be spending the rest of my life like this. I start to panic. From somewhere I hear the laughter of The DMT King, saying, "do you still question my power?" I try to answer, no I don't, I submit to you, please have mercy my lord! But I cannot speak. Eventually the time loop breaks, but still the effects continue. I'm completely convinced I will be spending the rest of my live with severe HPPD, with visuals all around me. Then eventually they start to wane and I start to believe maybe I will survive this after all. My girlfriend is sitting next to me, talking to me in a calming manner. I gradually come down, and yet again I feel DMT has taught me a valuable lesson.

This was quite a heavy dose of DMT. I'm not going to try a dose of this scale again very soon.
 
would there be an efficient way of vaporizing DMT into a gravity bong. The idea sounds very intriguing, get .08 g's all loaded up then take in one rip
 
its very very easy and you can rip more than 80mg...you can do like 150mg in one HUGE ass toke (its ridiculous).

Just lay down some herb then dump your DMT in and then slowly heat it up sucking in slowly with one huge toke.

It goes down real smooth and you'll trip harder than you ever tripped on DMT before (getting your dose in one toke ie one peak in your blood levels is KEY imo because of short term tolerance that sets in between tokes - one toke of 100mg is WAY MORE INTENSE than two tokes of 100mg ime).

edit - I just noticed you're talking about a GRAVITY bong. Yeah I wouldn't use that (too much of a hassle and not comfortable enough). I'd just use a regular bong so you can rip it laying down on your bed and immediately sink back under covers in the security of your bedroom.
 
^ how do you prepare for those types of dosage level trips?

do you do anything special or do you just blast it?

Well, not much. I mute the sound from everything so to be in silence. I find most sounds disturbing on DMT. I also take a comfortable position on the couch (sitting legs crossed with my neck arched backwards, resting my head against the wall). Along with some mental preparation.

I haven't tried many of those dosage-level trips. Don't ask me about accurate dosages though, my scale only shows 0,1g:s accurately so I just dump some crystal in my DYI vaporizer (a medicine bottle + soda bottle cap + 2cc syringe) and I measure the dose by how many hits I take from the pipe...

Although this experience got me thinking, perhaps I should find a way to measure the doses more accurately...
 
Really? I rollerblade, it's still a huge part of my life. I'm so thankful for it, all of my best friends I met through rollerblading.

right on man. alot of my friends from high school i met through rollerblading. It was what took up all my time before i discovered drugs. :)

SS, that is a good trip report. Im surprised i havent read it beofre.
2 years ago was a wonderful time indeed. That smell of indole was EVERYWHERE =D, Hiking trips in the mountains with a head full of L almost every weekend, and just feeling so alive and happy, it was like i was falling in love with life all over again.
i call it my summer of love (coincidently it was also the 30th anniversary of the actual summer of love)

So i want to go see this moby thing at the natural history museum
http://www.amnh.org/rose/dome/
i recomend you all watch the video.

i went ~5 years ago with a buddy. We had both taken a pretty high dose of MDA that night and decided that the planitarium would be a cool place to go and they had this Moby's SonicVision thing going on. Needless to say i had a great trip that night. (i also ended up combining 5meo DMT with the MDA that night which proved to be my only good 5meo DMT trip.)

Amor, the gravity bong should work fine for vaping DMT. Just put a little herb or ash underneath the spice.
 
Although this experience got me thinking, perhaps I should find a way to measure the doses more accurately...
well, I always eyeball DMT and haven't had a problem. I don't really find high doses uncomfortable though (oh boy now I'm going to get my ass handed to me next time). Although mainly when I do high doses its when I've been using a lot lately and need extra oomph to break through.

I've only once done a truly high dose (~150mg) without any tolerance and it sure was an eye opener (but incredibly euphoric also).

I always feel a lot of love from the entities when I smoke...but I concentrate on love and light and beautiful positive things before smoking it.
 
^Dude if you're really interested in pushing farther down the rabbit hole with DMT, you should try 200-250mg. ;)

When I vaped ~250mg I was in that white out for 1000000000000000000000trillion years of subjective time. I have no way of even conceptualizing it.
 
i dont think id be able to smoke that much.
i dont even think i can smoke 100mg.

i usually put ~100mg in the pipe but i probably only smoke 40-60mg of it.

i love my low tolerance to tryptamines.

im looking forward to IVing it some day though, i think id be able to take higher doses that way as it doesnt require smoking that putrid stuff. I sure wish that pink stuff was still floating around, id love to stick that stuff in my veins.
 
^ hey yeah alex these days my tolerance to tryptamines is ridiculous...it is SO LOW. I smoked 15mg yesterday and I saw patterning open eye!!!! <3

I really want to IV DMT...I need to get a wheel filter though...I have tried MET, DPT, 5-meo-DMT now intravenously and they all are superior that route.

IV 5-meo-DMT made my ears turn red and feel real hot! =D
 
^Dude if you're really interested in pushing farther down the rabbit hole with DMT, you should try 200-250mg. ;)

When I vaped ~250mg I was in that white out for 1000000000000000000000trillion years of subjective time. I have no way of even conceptualizing it.

HAHAHAHA I could not imagine 250mg of DMT vaporized 8o 8o 8o

smoking 150mg makes my lungs hurt I have to sorta trick myself into inhaling that much vapor (it seems like a not bright thing to do when you first try to inhale that much vapor!!!!!!! =D)

I wouldn't mind taking a high dose of DMT orally with a MAOI. Maybe 150mg of DMT? I imagine that would be intense because of the duration.
 
i dont think id be able to smoke that much.
i dont even think i can smoke 100mg.

Haha its trickier than a bitch to even get that much smoke inside of you (from 250). Its completely different from lower dose DMT, though. It ceases to even be visual at that level, its just complete sensory immersion -- very little memory exists of what actually happened to me in that state. Coming down was fucken insane though; just absolute perfect bliss and the feeling of being reborn into a world of magic and wonder and awe. <3

I wouldn't mind taking a high dose of DMT orally with a MAOI. Maybe 150mg of DMT? I imagine that would be intense because of the duration.

Oh man, oral DMT is pretty out there though. There's just something about that MAOI that makes it serious as shit. I'm a genuine DMT aficionado but high-dose pharmahuasca / ayahuasca scares me, I must admit. Ayahuasca gives me this "YOU ARE TRESPASSING ON SACRED TERRITORY!" vibe that smoked DMT never gives me.
 
^ Yeah. Jake & I called it the "anaesthetic dose." The kid's eyes dilated, then shut, then started fluttering and then he began hyperventilating for about five minutes and then stood bolt upright and was like "HOLY SHIT I JUST DIED AND WAS REBORN..." but had basically no memory of a "trip." Very, very, very far out stuff.

So there was some sort of singularity just now when karma & I were both mods!!! And alasdairm was all up in our internets fiddling with things, and now I'm a bluelight crew ...
 
I was just reading this thread, and I got such a chuckle from it. I just know this exact feeling:

sorry for the double post I just have to post this. There is no way what just happened is possible. Absolutely no way. I just kept hitting and holding, hitting and holding and it took me, my god it took me. I never dropped the pipe but it was by far the most amazing thing i have ever experienced. I just left the trip and im shaky and my lips burn from the pipe but do i feel amazing.

Reading that brought such a big smile to my face. :)

edit--- AND HOOORAY FOR KARMA!! I had a feeling she would be the new mod. :D
 
This makes me want to smoke some DMT.

I'm too tired tonight, maybe tomorrow.

I have the most epic feeling of the downfall of western civilization right now. It's a vision I always get from psychedelic drugs, but all that I have on board right now is a little weed and a little bit of the lingering sickness of trying to detox 100% from dope for the over-9000th time.

Hello to all ...

I'm picking up a decent internet signal right now, and glad to be able to be in your virtual presence tonight ...
 
I have the most epic feeling of the downfall of western civilization right now. It's a vision I always get from psychedelic drugs, but all that I have on board right now is a little weed and a little bit of the lingering sickness of trying to detox 100% from dope for the over-9000th time.

Dude I think its been a pretty psychedelic day on Earth in general. I've been getting psychedelic thought all day today -- I haven't taken any drugs in a while either.
 
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