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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Name some potent natural stimulants

They make a full spectrum theobroma cacao 25x powdered extact that I overdosed on once. I got really euphoric and speedy for like two hours, then sick, nightmares, then hungover for a day. I took ten grams. There were no dosing instructions...
 
^ Kratom is actually more a simultaneous stimulant and depressant. Thai kratom is the most stimulating. Bali is more sedating and euphoric. I find it extremely useful for tough physical labor, and even makes it quite enjoyable.
 
^ are you asking me or telling me that? have you ever used 400+mg of caffeine? and have you ever even tried coca tea?
 
That's a depressant.

No, indonesian kratom is one of the more speedy varietys. It affects everyone differently, but the effects as I have noted are speedy and opioid in nature. Farm workers in indonesia use it to boost energy levels.
 
Mrjack - there are a few varieties if "Indo" and some are more stimulant than others.

There are two things to keep in mind when looking for stimulation from Kratom.
One is dose, generally speaking 2-5 g's provide stimulation. Larger doses become more sedating.
Also the strain, Thai varieties usually are more stimulating than the others, followed by Malay, then Indo.

Another thing to bear in mind is people tend to get very different effects from Kratom. Some find Indo ineffective, while they swear by Bali, which I find considerably less potent than Indo.

There are 20+ alkaloids found in Kratom and the ratio's vary from strain to strain and time of year picked. Aswell as method of drying.

Personally, I love Kratom/mitragyna speciosa. But be warned, a lot of people find it addictive and my advice to anyone considering it, is stay clear of the extracts and stick to plain leaf.
 
^ are you asking me or telling me that? have you ever used 400+mg of caffeine? and have you ever even tried coca tea?

400mg caffeine? Am I am infant? I drink a 12 oz french press/double brewed/espresso (depends on what I have and what time) almost daily. Plus I am prescribed fioricet. So yeah.. I've taken triple that.
 
^ So you just have a huge tolerance to caffeine and you've never tried coca tea, is that right?
 
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