The Heroin Brand Name & Stamps Thread aka Jersey Junkie Diesel Paradise

[phr]

Just going by my experience(in Philly, a lil' different, I know), and from reading gov't reports, most stamping and cutting isn't done by the group doing the international smuggling. Like coke, you have one organization moving it into the country, then passing it on to a separate organization down the line that then cuts it and sells it or sells it to smaller operations for them to cut and sell. By the time the dope gets to your bottle cap or spoon, it has been passed through the hands of at least 2 organizations, usually more.


To put it in better perspective, back when I was using(and it's been like that for at least a decade before I started, that's when SA dope took over the market), there were two different types of organizations that distributed dope. The ones that cut and stamped their own bags, and the ones that distributed prepackaged stamps. Obviously the ones that made the most $$$, and put out the best product, were the ones that cut and stamped their own bags. But Philly is a unique market like that, it's my understanding that in NJ/NYC, you mostly deal with the prepackaged bags. It also seems like that's the case from this thread, since a lot of you people are getting the same bags. Either that or you all use the same dealers. (Here in Philly, it's not uncommon to run into 3 different stamps on the same corner, let alone the same street/area. There are a lot of people that cut and package their own stamp.)

 

[okterrific]

Ive been using for 5 years prob the past 3 years has been a everyday habit, I use around 15-18 bags a day, my habit has been making me almost go broke,I usually snort the dope or sometimes i find myself smoke the dope off tinfoil (chase the dragon) i have never IVed the dope in my life and dont have any plans to ever as of right now, i know alot of ppl will say that i waste the dope by smoking it but i feel it is much more intense when you smoke good dope it just does not last as long as if you snort or IV. i feel that my tolerance is very high since I need at least 10 bags to catch a good nod and to get a good nights sleep if not i will be freezing and unconfortable thourghout the day, For me it wierd I wont get sick and go thorugh withdrwal until at least 2 days after my last use, I dont ever wake up sick going through withdrawl i dont understand why that is ,As metioned before most the dope you get in P-is decent and good I also have not gotten any really shiity bags recently from p-town, the dope is usually white and flakey like it should be the bags have almost no bullshit powder texture in them

 

[Khadijah]

Man i had to sniff a bag the other day when i was sick as shit and had no set and it felt so disgusting. i felt so dirty sniffing a bag. it was such a waste. i could never go back to sniffing now that I been Iving for a long time. its weird.

 

[Carl Landrover]

Stamp Name: PAPER CHASER

Color: White bag, red stamp

Graphic (Yes or no, if yes describe): Yes, an unreadable bill

Count: Pretty good, 7.5

Quality: Quality, got soo high that night 8.12

Overall neat/sloppyness of bag, packaging, and stamp: Slightly faded stamps, still readable and everything though.

Other Comments: Fat bags and good dope makes Johnny a something something

 

[alteknj]

Just going by my experience(in Philly, a lil' different, I know), and from reading gov't reports, most stamping and cutting isn't done by the group doing the international smuggling. Like coke, you have one organization moving it into the country, then passing it on to a separate organization down the line that then cuts it and sells it or sells it to smaller operations for them to cut and sell. By the time the dope gets to your bottle cap or spoon, it has been passed through the hands of at least 2 organizations, usually more.


To put it in better perspective, back when I was using(and it's been like that for at least a decade before I started, that's when SA dope took over the market), there were two different types of organizations that distributed dope. The ones that cut and stamped their own bags, and the ones that distributed prepackaged stamps. Obviously the ones that made the most $$$, and put out the best product, were the ones that cut and stamped their own bags. But Philly is a unique market like that, it's my understanding that in NJ/NYC, you mostly deal with the prepackaged bags. It also seems like that's the case from this thread, since a lot of you people are getting the same bags. Either that or you all use the same dealers. (Here in Philly, it's not uncommon to run into 3 different stamps on the same corner, let alone the same street/area. There are a lot of people that cut and package their own stamp.)

I'm 21, almost 22. Been doing opiates since I was 17, heroin for about 2 years. I been dealing in NJ dope so I know how it works around here. But I might be moving to Philly, so I was reading some articles about the dope scene and it's pretty much right on point as you put it. In NJ, there seems to be a lot of buying pre-bagged bricks/bundles and re-selling for more. Why? Because dudes can buy pre-bagged stuff really fucking cheap and re-sell it on the street for regular street value and still make a buck. At least 50% profit.
They don't need to re-cut it or package it. They buy cheap and sell for more, for what it's worth. It seems in Philly, there's a lot of ethnic backgrounds; Dominicans, blacks, hispanics. A lot of gang activity. There looks like there is an environment where small operations thrive. I read a lot of drug busts where they broke up rings. There was only like 2000-3000 grams in the house of dope. That is like 2-3 kilos. But they were milling it, cutting it and packing it up. Neighborhoods where these small operations thrive, like in North Philly (the badlands). Then you got tons of corner kids who are willing to work. Perfect place for something like this. Somewhere like Jersey, the quality really doesn't vary much, price doesn't vary much, packaging doesn't change. Somewhere like Philly, I'm sure price, quality and packaging can change in a blocks notice.

Seems like Philly is a good dope scene. Lot's of open air markets, delivery services, areas to scope out and corner boys working all hours. Seems the quality and price can just be as good as Jersey if not better. Large scale operations tend to keep shit the same. And that is the way it works in Jersey on the whole. These smaller operations, could be run by rival gangs or whatever, seem like they switch things up.

 

[phr]

It seems in Philly, there's a lot of ethnic backgrounds; Dominicans, blacks, hispanics. A lot of gang activity.

There are different ethnicities, but they all interact with each other and don't advertise any ethnic pride/loyalty when they're selling. The territory is typically owned by a group of people, or by a person that lives nearby. The days of forcibly taking corners and protecting them are over. They realize that violence is bad business, and there's plenty of customers and corners to go around. There aren't gangs here, at least not in the LA, Chicago, New York sense. There's a lot of local organizations and cliques. Yeah some try to associate with a name they made up, but that's typically only done by younger African Americans. The serious dope dealers(which are the vast majority) are older, usually hispanic but also black, and aren't reppin' anything other than the stamp they have in their pocket. They're all about money, and not camaraderie or whatever is associated with joining a gang. Philly is actually unique in that sense, that gangs have never taken hold here...

 

[JerZfirE]

STAMP: Star Legend (same color as the DMX stamp.)

GRAPHIC: Star in block letters with a star covering the A, Legend in script. (not really a graphic, but not normal text)

Neatness: Stamp is sloppy as FUCK. You can only see "star" on one bag. Rest are smudged.

Count: 5 or 6/10 not great, but better than the shit Ive been getting.

Quality: 7/10, not bad. (Im pretty sure anyway. I also did a blue before. (30mg roxicodone)

 

[JerZfirE]

^^ Yeah, def 7 or 8/10. good stuff.

 

[Khadijah]

I'm 21, almost 22. Been doing opiates since I was 17, heroin for about 2 years. I been dealing in NJ dope so I know how it works around here. But I might be moving to Philly, so I was reading some articles about the dope scene and it's pretty much right on point as you put it. In NJ, there seems to be a lot of buying pre-bagged bricks/bundles and re-selling for more. Why? Because dudes can buy pre-bagged stuff really fucking cheap and re-sell it on the street for regular street value and still make a buck. At least 50% profit.
They don't need to re-cut it or package it. They buy cheap and sell for more, for what it's worth. It seems in Philly, there's a lot of ethnic backgrounds; Dominicans, blacks, hispanics. A lot of gang activity. There looks like there is an environment where small operations thrive. I read a lot of drug busts where they broke up rings. There was only like 2000-3000 grams in the house of dope. That is like 2-3 kilos. But they were milling it, cutting it and packing it up. Neighborhoods where these small operations thrive, like in North Philly (the badlands). Then you got tons of corner kids who are willing to work. Perfect place for something like this. Somewhere like Jersey, the quality really doesn't vary much, price doesn't vary much, packaging doesn't change. Somewhere like Philly, I'm sure price, quality and packaging can change in a blocks notice.

Seems like Philly is a good dope scene. Lot's of open air markets, delivery services, areas to scope out and corner boys working all hours. Seems the quality and price can just be as good as Jersey if not better. Large scale operations tend to keep shit the same. And that is the way it works in Jersey on the whole. These smaller operations, could be run by rival gangs or whatever, seem like they switch things up.

newark is one of the largest ports on the east coast, there is definately without a doubt people buying cutting and bagging their own shit here man. you aint never heard of buying grams in NJ? youre right that alot of ppl selling esp. the last person that sells it before it gets to you, is gettin their shit bricked already but my point is that where do you think the dope comes from? It dont come to america bagged up already and it hits newark first so there is still plenty of people puttin it in bags theirselvs. I dont know Ive had good ass dope from philly but in general i think NJ dope is better market better prices and generally better quality....i kno id rather have a bundle of 10 for the price it goes for out here than a bun of 13 for XX more dollars, when those extra dollars on top of the price of the bun, would buy me 5 bags here, usually get 15 or 16 in NJ for the price u get 13 in philly for. its just my personal preference tho. if i lived by philly id still be goin to jersey to cop my dope thats the life i always been involved in so i sticks with wat i know.

 

[okterrific]

I got a new stamp today when i copped,

STAMP: XXX- RED

GRAPHIC: NAKED LADY FINGERING HERSELF

Neatness: Stamp is neat and clean, Packed nicely

Count: 6 got a decent amount in them but can be a lil more


Quality: 7/10, not bad.

 

[yo_bot]

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[phr]

if i lived by philly id still be goin to jersey to cop my dope thats the life i always been involved in so i sticks with wat i know.

Trust me, you wouldn't.


I know we don't discuss prices, but what's the average price for a 10 bag bundle in NJ? No hook up price or anything like that, just a random guy going to a random drug dealer he doesn't know and getting a bundle...

 

[JerZfirE]

60 bills

 

[alteknj]

newark is one of the largest ports on the east coast, there is definately without a doubt people buying cutting and bagging their own shit here man. you aint never heard of buying grams in NJ? youre right that alot of ppl selling esp. the last person that sells it before it gets to you, is gettin their shit bricked already but my point is that where do you think the dope comes from? It dont come to america bagged up already and it hits newark first so there is still plenty of people puttin it in bags theirselvs. I dont know Ive had good ass dope from philly but in general i think NJ dope is better market better prices and generally better quality....i kno id rather have a bundle of 10 for the price it goes for out here than a bun of 13 for XX more dollars, when those extra dollars on top of the price of the bun, would buy me 5 bags here, usually get 15 or 16 in NJ for the price u get 13 in philly for. its just my personal preference tho. if i lived by philly id still be goin to jersey to cop my dope thats the life i always been involved in so i sticks with wat i know.

Check it: Newark is a big port city. Along with Elizabeth. I know what you are saying, and I don't doubt it. My old man used to sell grams of dope, but you had to buy at least 10. That's a wholesale thing man. No dudes in Jersey; in the projects of Newark, Paterson, Jersey City, Camden, wherever are going to be selling grams or vials or anything like that in open air. Like I said, for that kind of thing you gotta know people high up on the chain and it's not like you can go to these guys and be like "Hey man, I need a gram" That's not how it flies. Everywhere in Jersey is stamp bags. Of course there is bagging and milling done in Jersey, I am sure the majority of it is done in Jersey.

But as Phrozen was trying to say is, the dope switches hands from the organizations in Jersey. One group smuggles it in, another group buys the keys and mills them/ bags/stamps and then the wholesalers buy from there. Then you got the corner/project kids buying from the wholesalers. I knew a wholesaler. He would sell me bricks for the price he sold to the corner kids and it's like 1/2 of what you would pay for a brick in P-town or Brick City or JC. It was awesome. But I am not here to brag. No dudes sell grams in Jersey. You gotta know people for that and like I said you can't be buying 1, you gotta be buying at least 10 or more and if your doing that, you are running your own operation. That isn't to say I know guys that would buy a few keys and mill up in the projects and stamp their own bags, but it's real risky, hard work, and some of the best dope I ever had in Jersey. It wasn't pre-packaged. Right off the key, cut up with oxy/morphine/lactose and into the bags straight for me. That was my main man. But he's locked up now. 95% of the dudes in Jersey are selling pre-bagged shit. Being the proximity of it so close to where it came in the country is why we have some of the highest quality dope. And cheap! I ain't complaining. I love Jersey dope!

I don't know how much bundles are in Philly. I heard they were 13 bags. But the dude below that said the AVERAGE bundles in Jersey for the AVERAGE person to be going to a DRUG DEALER they never seen before is not $60. A little higher than that. I'm not going to discuss prices. I mean there are spots in Jersey where you can get some cheap bags! Cheaper than $60. But It varies A LOT. I know dudes that are getting 5 bags for that amount in Jersey. Yet I know dudes getting 12 bags for that same amount. It's all about where you go, who you know and how good of a custy who you are. I am interested in how much Philly dope is compared to Jersey though. Sucks we can't discuss prices. But A lot of you guys are misinformed and have misconceptions on New Jersey as an AVERAGE WHOLE. $60 bundles are definitely around, but you will defintley be paying more 75% of time going somewhere else to a new guy. Stop using your current connects and start thinking on a whole. Because I can brag on here all day about how I used to get bundles for half that. But I ain't trying to be an asshole. I love Jersey to death. Born in NYC and raised. But stop dissing everyone and stop the bickering.

 

[phr]

Standard price is $110 for 13 in Philly.

 

[alteknj]

Standard price is $110 for 13 in Philly.

Now that's a bundle in Philly right? Is that standard average price for someone new going to a new place to cop without any kind of hook up or discounts? And also does it vary like in Jersey on the people? Some people might charge $60, $70, $80 a bundle. I've seen them as high as $100 and low as $50. And this is without hook ups. Just depends on the dealer.

 

[NODstradamus]

STAMP: Star Legend (same color as the DMX stamp.)

GRAPHIC: Star in block letters with a star covering the A, Legend in script. (not really a graphic, but not normal text)

Neatness: Stamp is sloppy as FUCK. You can only see "star" on one bag. Rest are smudged.

Count: 5 or 6/10 not great, but better than the shit Ive been getting.

Quality: 7/10, not bad. (Im pretty sure anyway. I also did a blue before. (30mg roxicodone)

Yea, these are the best ones Ive done in a while... Better than anything else around right now IMO...

 

[NODstradamus]

STAMP: Therapy
GRAPHIC: None
Neatness: Stamp is extremely sloppy and smudged, it says Therapy in reddish letters
Count: 7/10, I got a brick and the majority of them were huge, only abt 5 were small, but they were tiny.
Quality: 7/10: These are the same dope as the Star Legends IMO... Definitely some good dope compared to what I have been getting lately... I got em from the same dude that had the DMX, Wall Streets, and Poisons so I think the dope is similar to these...

 

[Khadijah]

Trust me, you wouldn't.


I know we don't discuss prices, but what's the average price for a 10 bag bundle in NJ? No hook up price or anything like that, just a random guy going to a random drug dealer he doesn't know and getting a bundle...

50-70 bucks depending where you go to (wat city.) paterson and newark got 5 dollar spots and if you go somewhere else its gonna b 60 or 70. Philly dope never impressed me that much and I dont understand paying $110 for 13 bags when I would get 16-18 for that $110 in jersey ya feel me

 

[sayanything42]

name: Therapy

color: red

graphic: none

count: avg is a 6.... some i'd give a 7, and some are only a 4-5ish

quality: 7 or 8

other comments: i really liked them alot n they're the best shit i've done in awhile.. i get the pins and needles feeling everytime with my rush (in which i wasn't getting with other dope)
i've been doing these for the past couple of days so i haven't been on here to post about them.. they make me nod alot (which is rare for me), and they make me very forgetful.. this is all probably just because they make me so damn fucked up