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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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Thanks chrisina thats kind of what i thought might be going on %). Will i ever feel sedated on subs? I think I might get prescribed some valume today for anxiety issues... will this help with sleep problems also?
 
DubCity23 said:
Thanks chrisina thats kind of what i thought might be going on %). Will i ever feel sedated on subs? I think I might get prescribed some valume today for anxiety issues... will this help with sleep problems also?
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Valium will work amazing.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Merging DubCity23's question about sleeping on bupe into the bupe mega thread.
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Word, probably should have posted it here in the first place. Do they usually start people out on a high dose of subs? When i went to the doc i was in my second day withdrawl and he have me 5 8's until today i go back at 3:45. The time schedule was somethin like 4-8 430 - 4 6-4 9-1/4 12- 1/4 2 - 1/4 then i slept for a little and woke up at 8 and took another whole pill. So i have one 8 left i think im suppose to take half at noon or maybe the whole thing i forget.

Is this a lot? I was using around 5 bags a day. I highly doubt when i go back today he will put me on a script of this much but maybe it was just a first day thing ??
 
^ No problems regarding merging; just remember the mega threads exist. ;)

About the subs; all I know is that lately I've been reading a lot of members here saying that less is more with sub and that the high doses a lot of people get Rx'd aren't really necessary and are quite pointless. If you can get a lower dose to work for you it will make tapering off easier in the long run.
 
yea i had a healthy habit......n i would only need a 8 a day ...4 when i woke up.....n maybe another 4 earley night........and i could really get by on 2 and then another 2.....but if u want a lil buzz then eat em all ??? or just listen to your doctor
 
Will 40mg oxy get me high?

Hello all. I'm new to this site and am wondering if a 40mg oxy will get me high when I take an 8mg sub everyday? I've never take oxy before and am thinking of waiting 24 hours before taking the oxy. Thanks.
 
joe23nat said:
Hello all. I'm new to this site and am wondering if a 40mg oxy will get me high when I take an 8mg sub everyday? I've never take oxy before and am thinking of waiting 24 hours before taking the oxy. Thanks.
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Short answer: No.


Longer answer: You'd need to wait a lot longer than that. 8mg of suboxone is MUCH greater than 40mg of oxy. The blocking effects of taking 8mg daily would last longer than 24 hours, especially for only 40mg of oxy.
 
mr Bungle said:
hey

could anyone wish to talk about their experience with PAWS - what it means to you, length, intensity, syptoms - does coming off suboxone give u a different 'type' or 'style' of Paws.

worst PAWS experinces.

best way to deal with it

etc etc

thank you

i think PAWS is very interesting but dont know much about it
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It absolutely sucks. I can't really even describe what it feels like because that's the whole issue - I don't feel anything. No emotions what-so-ever.

I don't know how to deal with it other than to just, well, deal with it.

I hate it.
 
I have my second suboxone apt tomarrow. My first one I was given a 2 week script. What usally happens at the second apt? Do they just ask how its going and recheck your vitals and write you another script?
 
man bupe is a weird pharm, i got a weird habit, i usually go about 2 weeks straight on oxy or hydrocodone and then stop, go into WD, feel like shit, cop a suboxone and sniff 2-4mg and i actually get high, i dont get it, then i usally use the rest of the sub (8mg) over the next day or 2 and feel absolutely no withdrawals, then ill wait 2-3 days and start on oxy or hydro again, u would think that only using for 2 weeks wouldnt lead to physical addiction but it does me and i always go back in WD after i stop using opiates even after just 2 weeks, also does anyone know how strong bupe is compared to oxy on a mg to mg basis? ive heard bupe is like 15x stronger than oxy is that true? it has to be close cuz with a 100-120mg oxy habit i can actually get high from insufflating3-4mg of bupe
 
I know bupe is 40x stronger than morphine. I've been on 16 mg of Suboxone a day for almost 6 months. I was in a motorcycle accident about two weeks ago and broke my shoulder bone, they put me on 16 mg of Dilaudid 6x a day and that didn't do shit. I actually quit taking the Dilaudid and went through w/d with my shoulder still hurting. Now I have a script for 10/325 Vicodins and they're working great. I think I might save the Dilaudid and just make some money off em. Luckily my orhtopaedic doctor is pretty understanding about how much a broken shoulder bone hurts, and I have another prescription of 10/325 Vicodin's waiting in my drawer to fill once I run out.
 
^damn thats strange that dilaudid doesn't do shit for you but hydrocodone will. i would much rather have the dilaudid, it could have something to do with you taking them orally, if thats what you do, hydromorphone has a low oral bioavailability. the best way to do dilaudid is IV but most ppl don't wanna do that and i understand but that could be why you don't feel the dilaudid that much.
 
anjr00 said:
I know bupe is 40x stronger than morphine. I've been on 16 mg of Suboxone a day for almost 6 months. I was in a motorcycle accident about two weeks ago and broke my shoulder bone, they put me on 16 mg of Dilaudid 6x a day and that didn't do shit. I actually quit taking the Dilaudid and went through w/d with my shoulder still hurting. Now I have a script for 10/325 Vicodins and they're working great. I think I might save the Dilaudid and just make some money off em. Luckily my orhtopaedic doctor is pretty understanding about how much a broken shoulder bone hurts, and I have another prescription of 10/325 Vicodin's waiting in my drawer to fill once I run out.
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well if you took the dillies orally then you prob wouldnt feel much man, the BA sucks, the vicodins have a much better oral BA which explains why they work so much better
 
To reiterate what others have said in this thread: Please, whether you’re a “cool” teenager or a legal adult, don’t abuse Suboxone as it is a LIFESAVER for many of us.

Yes, the naloxone is there largely to scare people, but just because you *can* do something, doesn’t mean you should.

The last thing I want to see is for conservative US citizens (that’s 98% of the population in my mind, as this country is not exactly cutting edge when it comes to harm-reduction) to either: a) have an epidemic of high schoolers abusing and overdosing on Suboxone (I can just see the headlines); or b) “find out” that the addition of naloxone may not be all it’s hyped up to be.

I really like my compassionate, caring Sub doc whom I see once a month as well as the nurse practitioner and the counselor I see weekly, as they’ve been an immense help. And I really, really like picking up a 30 day supply of Suboxone at Costco just as I would any other med. I do NOT want to wake up at 5am to wait in line at a methadone clinic; I’ve worked at one, and it was not as nice as where I see my Sub doc.

Please. Don’t.
 
Dr_F said:
To reiterate what others have said in this thread: Please, whether you’re a “cool” teenager or a legal adult, don’t abuse Suboxone as it is a LIFESAVER for many of us.

Yes, the naloxone is there largely to scare people, but just because you *can* do something, doesn’t mean you should.

The last thing I want to see is for conservative US citizens (that’s 98% of the population in my mind, as this country is not exactly cutting edge when it comes to harm-reduction) to either: a) have an epidemic of high schoolers abusing and overdosing on Suboxone (I can just see the headlines); or b) “find out” that the addition of naloxone may not be all it’s hyped up to be.

I really like my compassionate, caring Sub doc whom I see once a month as well as the nurse practitioner and the counselor I see weekly, as they’ve been an immense help. And I really, really like picking up a 30 day supply of Suboxone at Costco just as I would any other med. I do NOT want to wake up at 5am to wait in line at a methadone clinic; I’ve worked at one, and it was not as nice as where I see my Sub doc.

Please. Don’t.
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who are you the freaking Surgeon General?
 
No, but he is freaking right. Even the OD guidelines say we won't support you in abusing Suboxone, so obviously he's not the only one who thinks that.

Watch, in a few years, when the FDA and DEA catch on to all these kids getting high on Suboxone, watch how hard it will be for someone to get a script for it. And who will we have to blame for that?
 
sixpartseven said:
No, but he is freaking right. Even the OD guidelines say we won't support you in abusing Suboxone, so obviously he's not the only one who thinks that.

Watch, in a few years, when the FDA and DEA catch on to all these kids getting high on Suboxone, watch how hard it will be for someone to get a script for it. And who will we have to blame for that?
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The same could be said about OPIATE PAINKILLERS, what is ur point? Abuse is abuse is abuse, who gives you or anyone the right to demand that people abuse this but not that, utter nonsense
 
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