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Solubility of K and Glucose

Sanity?

Sanity?

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So... I have in my hands an amount of ketamine which has been cut with something. This ketamine also was left out and got wet. I'm currently in the process of drying it out at low heat (80 degrees celcius) in a glass dish in the oven. The resulting product is dry ketamine which is kind of sticky and tastes a little sweet. I'm going to assume it is cut with glucose unless anyone can suggest differently.

I understand that one method of cleaning ketamine is by washing it with toluene.

My questions are:

*Is glucose soluble in toluene?
*What is the solubility of both glucose and ketamine in rubbing alcohol?
*Will the water (which I'm hopefully drying out) effect any attempts at cleaning this stuff up?

Thanks in advance.
 
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hey yeah i'd love to know the answer to this to, anyone know how to remove the glucose from the K mixture? Its like the two have been infused together and i want to be able to clean that shit out of my gear..
 
Sanity said:
My questions are:

*Is glucose soluble in toluene? [1]
*What is the solubility of both glucose and ketamine in rubbing alcohol? [2]
*Will the water (which I'm hopefully drying out) effect any attempts at cleaning this stuff up? [3]

Thanks in advance.
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[1] Completely insoluble.

[2] Glucose dissolves not in pure EtOH. The term "rubbing alcohol" is not strictly defined, according to Wiki, and includes aqueous EtOH with water content of 1% up to 30%. Ask more precisely... General rule: The higher the water content, the more glucose will dissolve.

[3] Ketamine is almost always traded as the hydrochloride salt, whích is perfectly soluble in water, too, but not in toluene. Therefore, your whole proposal is rendered useless.

A simple way to remove a sugar from ketamine-HCl is to dissolve both in little amount of water, basify, extract with ether or DCM and finally to form a salt again (preferably the HCl). Easy, doable at home, high yield.

How can you ensure that the cut is not a different sugar? There are plenty available, and all taste sweet. Sucrose is by far the most common IMO. Not that it would make a big difference. But to assume that sweet = glucose is nonsense...

- Murphy
 
MurphyClox said:
[2] Glucose dissolves not in pure EtOH. The term "rubbing alcohol" is not strictly defined, according to Wiki, and includes aqueous EtOH with water content of 1% up to 30%. Ask more precisely... General rule: The higher the water content, the more glucose will dissolve.
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Regarding rubbing alcohol, I was referring to 99% pure isopropanol.

But anyhow, thanks for your help.
 
Glucose is insoluble in iPrOH as well. The ketamine salt on the other hand could be soluble... I'm lacking personal experience here. Maybe somebody else like to chime in? - Murphy
 
This is a lengthy process unless the amount you have is fantastically large. I'm assuming you just have a personal amount. Why don't you just re-dissolve it in water an I.M. it? Seems like the way to go.
 
I don't inject... besides, what if I'm wrong about what it is cut with? Dont want to inject something evil into my thigh :p

I read on another post here somewhere that ketamine IS soluble in iPrOH.
 
I don't inject... besides, what if I'm wrong about what it is cut with? Dont want to inject something evil into my thigh
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Anyone find the contradiction here? It looks french and wears a striped shirt.
 
MurphyClox said:
[1] Completely insoluble.

[2] Glucose dissolves not in pure EtOH. The term "rubbing alcohol" is not strictly defined, according to Wiki, and includes aqueous EtOH with water content of 1% up to 30%. Ask more precisely... General rule: The higher the water content, the more glucose will dissolve.

[3] Ketamine is almost always traded as the hydrochloride salt, whích is perfectly soluble in water, too, but not in toluene. Therefore, your whole proposal is rendered useless.

A simple way to remove a sugar from ketamine-HCl is to dissolve both in little amount of water, basify, extract with ether or DCM and finally to form a salt again (preferably the HCl). Easy, doable at home, high yield.

How can you ensure that the cut is not a different sugar? There are plenty available, and all taste sweet. Sucrose is by far the most common IMO. Not that it would make a big difference. But to assume that sweet = glucose is nonsense...

- Murphy
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When you say basify, what would you do it with and to what extent?
 
Sanity? said:
I'm going to assume it is cut with glucose unless anyone can suggest differently.
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It could be cut with:

Dextrose (glucose)
Sucrose
Fructose
Lactose
Mannitol
Sorbitol
Xylitol
Splenda

And those are just the common ones. There are hundreds of chemicals known to taste sweet.

Most likely sucrose but that's just my guess seeing as it is the most easily obtained. But the others are also common cuts.

This is not AD material.
 
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