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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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Excido said:
So is IM 2C-E safe? I wouldn't mind trying it. As well as plugging, can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to plug 2c-e? :) How long does "it" feel uncomfortable after you plug? I've also heard when you do it its best to push it to one side due to some wall or something?
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If you have pure 2c-e IM is relatively safe.
As far as plugging, just dissolve it in some water and use a needle less syringe to inject it up your bum :)
 
^^ IM 2C-E is nuts. Duration for me was roughly the same as snorting. The weird thing for me was that the come-up wasn't NEARLY as rough. It was like I'd do the shot, withdraw, cap the needle and set it aside, lean back in my chair, and have about a minute to think, "Is it working? Did I get far enough in?" and then I'd be floating... It was very gentle in terms of body load, but very strong in terms of mindfuck. Also, by this point I'd been tripping pretty much every 2 or 3 days for months, so take that for what it's worth.

I actually went back to snorting because I loved the rush from it, despite the pain. Still, each RoA I tried with 2C-E had its own charms, and was like a different face of the drug.
 
man, obyron, youre gonna have to come over and help me "get rid" of all my 2C-E in every way possible, lets just snort a line, then IM it...man...wow...
 
So is IM as strong as Plugging/Snorting? And how much less is the duration? And is it a fast comedown, like where as after say 6-8 hours you can sleep fine?
 
I've never really understood why some people have to try out every single method there is to get the compund inside the body. What is wrong with taking it the oral route, or snorting it for that matter? You can easily blow your ego to other solar systems by taking it oral!
 
People snort, plug, IM, and IV these things for several reasons.

You use up less of your product when not taking oral doses, which tend to be bigger, with the odd exception, like 5-meo-mipt. Things like 2C-t-7, which are potentially 16 hours long, can be plugged, and you get a shorter, yet more intense experience. Some people say less side effects...other people report an increase. Some drugs, like DPT and ketamine, seem to have really good reports about IM administration. My opinion about IVing drugs though....i don't know if I can ever understand that fully. To each their own though, just be careful with your body, you only have one ! Personally, I'm not at all into snorting chemicals into my face, but I will definitely plug them, and I would defiitely try IMing certain things....like DPT and ketamine.
 
I wouldn't try IVing or IMing 2CE. There have been two reports (one I eye-witnessed) complaining of almost immediate heart pain when IMing 2CE. Almost surely cannot be healthy to inject these things.
 
Personally, it has worked great for me to snort say half a milligram to a milligram... let the burn subside and judge where I am at. Then another milligram or so, try to relax, then continue.

With smaller amounts it gets to the point for me where I don't even feel it and I am fine with doing it multiple times. I have never snorted over 3mgs at once though, because the burn then is just INSANE. Not only does it feel like it burns, it feels like it is eating a hole into the back of my nose, into my brain. Once it had my eyes feeling like they were being eaten out too, and I couldn't move my eyes around fully without having really bad pain. Be careful with nasal administration, be VERY sparse with it as it seems to me like it can, and will do a lot of damage the more you do it.

I have tried 11mgs rectal before, and for the first 20 minutes or so it was EXTREMELY overwhelming. My body felt like it was going to explode with heat, it was just EXTREMELY intense on my body... but I just laid down in my bed, took a few deeeeeep breaths and over the next 5 minutes or so it subsided and turned into an amazing 6-7 hour long experience that was unforgettable. Besides the initial feeling like I was going to die for 20 minutes, everything felt AMAZING. I could have sworn I was going to die though, and after feeling better... It was amazing :) So that, just not dieing could have had something to do with it. :)

Also one more thing to note with rectal administration... I feel like I may have had the insides of my rectum weakened or something. While working one day all of a sudden I couldn't move my leg cause it felt like something had snapped. It hurt right where it felt worse after rectal administration with 2c-e... and I couldn't walk for a week. Judging from tests with sublingual administration and how it eats away the skin under my tongue leaving a splotchy, bloody, raw area under my tongue, I would assume that 2c-e, in general, is not healthy for the membranes of your body... and that most likely, your stomach and intestines are best suited to dealing with these harsh chemicals.

Although, I have never had any truuueelyyy negative experiences with 2c-e. A lot of anxiety at some points but that comes and goes. As with anything, it's a learning experience.
 
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ompa86 said:
I've never really understood why some people have to try out every single method there is to get the compund inside the body. What is wrong with taking it the oral route, or snorting it for that matter? You can easily blow your ego to other solar systems by taking it oral!
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May as well ask what the point of taking RCs is when there are well-known psychedelics out there. I mean, who needs 2C-E when you can blow your ego away with Mescaline?

Some of us just like trying new and different things. That's why it's called drug experimentation.
 
So at what mg point does 2c-e start...exceeding normal duration, or is that only subjective? Like you hear of those 75-100mg doses that last 24 hours or so. Because I wouldn't mind IMíng 50mg for the intensity, but I don't want it lasting a day or so :P well not this time at least.
 
^See Gaian Planes' post above about IMing 2C-E.

I've IM'd 2C-E 4 times at 10mg--with the dose split between two injections over an hour to test my reaction--and the physical tension at that level during the onset was still quite taxing. I prefer IM for the dam-break flood of psychedelic bliss and immersion the tension gives way to, for me, but definitely wouldn't go much higher than a 10mg dose split over an hour. I don't really experience tension during an 20mg oral 2C-E onset either, so it's a good bet that anyone that gets anxious during a normal-to-strong dose oral 2C-E onset would find half that dose IM pretty unbearable... Remember that peak plasma levels can be much higher IM even when using a substantially lower dose than oral.
 
I understand where he's coming from, but I personally had a hell of a lot more of a rough come up snorting 10mg than IMing it. Maybe I'm just one of those high-powered mutants, never intended for mass production or something. People freak out and say all kinds of stupid shit when they're coming up on psychedelics. I'm not sure that means that IM 2C-E is going to give you a heart attack any more than it means IMing anything would.

But anyway, this is why you tiiiiiiitraaaaaaate. I IMed 2mg before I IMed 5, before I IMed 8, before I IMed 10, multiple times. You'd have to be an idiot to jump in and IM 10mg of 2C-E, and you'd have to have a death wish to IM 50mg.
 
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I understand where he's coming from, but I personally had a hell of a lot more of a rough come up snorting 10mg than IMing it.
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A hard time in what respect, anxiety? I think the pain from snorting a 2C probably causes a somewhat unavoidable uptick in bodily stress, which in turn feeds into fear, anxiety, sweating, tension etc. It may very well be that, for many, and up to some crossing point, snorting is a rougher onset than IM because of these compounding feedback influences, even though the drug itself enters the system more slowly via insufflation than IM.

I've never had any kind of heart issues during the onset of IM 2C-E, either, but the body tension has been consistently greater than pretty much any other psychedelic I've used IM or by insufflation. As stated, titration is a must.
 
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A hard time in what respect, anxiety?
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In terms of physical stress as a response to the drug, quickening heart rate, head rush, clinching in my gut, general feeling of "Oh shit I'm going to die" that freaks out newbies to drugs when in reality they just need to breathe and accept it as the price for what they're doing. By contrast, my IM sessions with 2C-E, which numbered at least 20, were all smooth come-ups with no anxiety, none of the "come-up anxiety" at all that I experienced from snorting. In terms of how rough the ride is, I'd much rather IM 10mg than snort 10mg, but snorting became my preferred method because I liked the rush. And I think you're right that the (for me) intense pain was a part of it. I've never denied being a masochist, but I'm certainly not irresponsible or unsafe about my drug use, and if I thought that IM 2C-E had posed the least danger to me I never would have tried it, repeated trying it, or advocated it to anyone else.

For me it was always like floating gently into psychedelic bliss, knowing that the landscape can be a little rough and that the natives can get restless, but that you've been there a million times, and that you know the path.

I understand that the philosophy of harm reduction requires a certain amount of paranoia (if you want an example, tell someone on this board you're thinking about snorting a 2C-T-x), but we also have to understand not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. In the case of snorting 2C-Ts there are numerous solid reports about it being a bad idea, but one or two reports of someone having chest pain IMing 2C-E? What's their dose? What's their set and setting? How experienced are they with this very powerful chemical? How experienced are they with IM procedure? Are they sure they didn't hit a vein? How's their health? Do they have any known heart problems? Is there a history of congenital heart defects in their family?

"I saw a guy freak out," is fine, and it's worth warning people about, but there are a lot of people out there who haven't had any problems at all, and this is part of the heavy responsibility we all have to accept when we start experimenting with these chemicals. As far as I know I'll probably end up with Parkinson's or brain cancer in 20 years. The fact that one guy somewhere freaked out on a come-up is the farthest thing from my mind.
 
^^ I agree completely with that. If one or two people experience heart pains who's to say they don't already have some unknown underlying heart problems, which are exacerbated by IM 2C-E. I do intend to titrate my IM 2C-E dose, I'm not THAT stupid :) but was still wondering at what point you start tripping for 12+ hours into the 20+ hours. Or is that only subjective to some people and high doses or at 75mg+ is it unavoidable?
 
You're talking about numbers way past anything I ever fucked with. Remember that 2C-E has a non-linear dose/response curve. 30mg as as high as I went orally before I said no mas. I'm a hardhead, and that lasted 8-10 hours.
 
skatardude10 said:
Also one more thing to note with rectal administration... I feel like I may have had the insides of my rectum weakened or something. While working one day all of a sudden I couldn't move my leg cause it felt like something had snapped. It hurt right where it felt worse after rectal administration with 2c-e... and I couldn't walk for a week. Judging from tests with sublingual administration and how it eats away the skin under my tongue leaving a splotchy, bloody, raw area under my tongue, I would assume that 2c-e, in general, is not healthy for the membranes of your body... and that most likely, your stomach and intestines are best suited to dealing with these harsh chemicals.
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I know there are quite a few people who've tried plugging 2C-E, has anyone else had any experiences similar to skatardude's?
 
Nope. Some substances burn me a little rectally... 2C-E occasionally gives me a mild burn, but that's about it. last year when I was tripping FAR too often, I was mostly plugging, and I think after a while I started to damage to membranes because 2C-E would burn far more. But last time I tried it, it actually didn't burn in any way whatsoever.
 
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