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Tryptamines [DPT Subthread] DPT Dosage & Methods of Administration

SmargFlap said:
Second trial, approx 5 mg IM followed by another 5 about 10 minutes later.

Tolerance may be possible, feelings very mild. A sort of pleasant physical vibration, next to nothing visually, but still that damned smell.

If the tolerance wasn't a significant factor, I feel like the general feeling from IM is much better than IV. IV felt like throwing a stick into the gears of a machine, which caused a chain reaction leading to total chaos even at a very small dose with limited visuals.
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5-10mg IM is barely above baseline/threshold dose. To get a decent feel for DPT via this route I'd recommend 15-25mg for a not too intense ride (with very little/no tolerance). The most I've IMed is 50mg and it was intense in ways words could not convey, although that was in combination with 60mg of ketamine
 
darn I wish i'd use needle...just smoked 50mg in a cig and just got barely treshold, maybe it was because I didn't smoke it fast enough...I just can't smoke it pure, too harsh
maybe i'm a little tolerant these days too :/
had to top it with some dmt. She then told me I have to do ayahuasca again, that will work!
 
WaseFraKa said:
darn I wish i'd use needle...just smoked 50mg in a cig and just got barely treshold, maybe it was because I didn't smoke it fast enough...I just can't smoke it pure, too harsh
maybe i'm a little tolerant these days too :/
had to top it with some dmt. She then told me I have to do ayahuasca again, that will work!
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rectal will work.
 
^ rectal DMT and DPT is a waste, imo, the dose needed to get you to the same level as IM or insufflation is a lot more.
 
Gaian Planes said:
^ rectal DMT and DPT is a waste, imo, the dose needed to get you to the same level as IM or insufflation is a lot more.
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your the boss. :)
 
OK i have a question. I was under the impression that DPT HCl cannot be smoked with much effect. I was told you must turn it into the freebase before smoking it.

However, on this site (which is about mixing Salvia with various tryptamines):
Salvia+Tryptamine Reports

Read the reports on the site where he mixes "Xmg of DPT HCl and Xmg of Salvia extract" into a pipe and smokes it, talking about massive synergy.

On that site, he talks about smoking DPT HCl (with salvia) on multiple occasions, and getting true tryptamine effects from it. Am I missing something here? Is he just wasting most of the compound? How is he getting true effects from smoking DPT HCl?

Does anyone have any ideas? Placebo? Possibly his brain is only absorbing about half of it? Or is this an actual reliable way to use DPT HCl?
 
One more comment for SmargFlap:

IM'ing DPT is much much less intense than IV'ing it. You WILL need a higher dose if you IM it than if you IV it.
 
psilocybonaut said:
OK i have a question. I was under the impression that DPT HCl cannot be smoked with much effect. I was told you must turn it into the freebase before smoking it.

However, on this site (which is about mixing Salvia with various tryptamines):
Salvia+Tryptamine Reports

Read the reports on the site where he mixes "Xmg of DPT HCl and Xmg of Salvia extract" into a pipe and smokes it, talking about massive synergy.

On that site, he talks about smoking DPT HCl (with salvia) on multiple occasions, and getting true tryptamine effects from it. Am I missing something here? Is he just wasting most of the compound? How is he getting true effects from smoking DPT HCl?

Does anyone have any ideas? Placebo? Possibly his brain is only absorbing about half of it? Or is this an actual reliable way to use DPT HCl?
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you need more and its much harsher, the vap point of HCL and burning point are really close if Ir recall. So instead of a freebase which has a lower vap point the HCL will burn and vap simultaneously. which si why you lose some product in the process and the smoke is harsher.
 
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i can testify to the fact that smoking DPT hcl does work.

But the dosage needed is higher than freebase.

So what do you all think is a beeter method fro DPT, IM or smoking freebase?
 
I'd think IM would be better.. doesnt have an nasty smoke involved :)
 
Delsyd said:
i can testify to the fact that smoking DPT hcl does work.

But the dosage needed is higher than freebase.

So what do you all think is a beeter method fro DPT, IM or smoking freebase?
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the needle.

Needles are the best method Iv found for everything, but they also carry the highest risks and then give the biggest consequences. :\ the karma of needle play is a ruff one.
 
IV is better imo, I like the more intense 'flash' of the experience. Like a dream.

Although IM is probably the best route if you want a full trip.

Youkai said:
the karma of needle play is a ruff one.
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Is it the needle's karma or the user's karma?
 
maybe thrice as long as an intense DMT flash (like 30 minute peak). Then an hour or so to drift back to baseline.
 
Is it like a complete blackout into Colorsville or is it more subtle?
 
Gaian Planes said:
IV is better imo, I like the more intense 'flash' of the experience. Like a dream.

Although IM is probably the best route if you want a full trip.


Is it the needle's karma or the user's karma?
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Its the karma of the relationship between user and needle.
 
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