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MazDan

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As Im sure everyone is well aware, the ammount of scientific work thats been done on MDMA and MDA is very very small.

But down the track, someone somewhere is going to do some science work and find out a lot of answers about why certain things happen while your on a pill.

Such as...........Seeing other people wearing glasses even though they werent.

So in the meantime, lets put up some logical reasons for this phenomena.

What are your ideas?



Personally I have a theory that mdma plays with the recognition part of the brain and basically makes it lazy.

While on mdma you see some dark shadows on or around someones eyes and your brain trys to recognise what they are.........if the first reasonably possible hit is a pair of glasses then it accepts thats what they are and moves on without going to whatever checking phase it might normally do.



My second suggestion is that instead of being lazy, the same scenario applies however that the brain has so many things its trying to process that it simply hasnt the time to donate to much consideration to what those shadows may or may not be.



So my first suggestion is saying the drug stops the brain from completing its recognition process while my second suggests the brain could still complete the recognition process but chooses not to because there is so much other info to be processed due to the increased brain activity thanks to the mdma.



What are your ideas?
 
I've never heard of this glasses phenomenon. How often does it occur?
 
Thats a good theory mazdan and one that i wouldnt be suprised if correct , how would you fit in to this theory visuals such as tribal patterning covering peoples skin ? have even seen skin as egyptian scrolls in the most detail whilst on mda, this interests me deeply where these visions come from and why they do though a suppose there is a part of me that doesnt want them rationalising to keep them magical.
 
reptilian said:
Thats a good theory mazdan and one that i wouldnt be suprised if correct , how would you fit in to this theory visuals such as tribal patterning covering peoples skin ? have even seen skin as egyptian scrolls in the most detail whilst on mda, this interests me deeply where these visions come from and why they do though a suppose there is a part of me that doesnt want them rationalising to keep them magical.


OK well I find it fits into my having seen things such as a group of people but on further investigation find they are trees and also my seeing things such as a pig and a fish but both turned out to be plastic shopping bags.
However I have also seen some weird stuff such as people turn into reptilian like objects with green glowing skin and scales.........not sure that that fits in.......lol. Egyptian scrolls? By any chance do you have an interest in egyptian scrolls that may have had them in your head?




Druidus...........I had read about it long before I had ever experienced it and had basically decided it must be one of those for some people only things. Then one night I saw it and its happenned a couple of times since but not always.........more likely I have found if you are concentrating on the persons face........ie looking at them intently.
 
^ i think amphetamineninja is talking about the lines of the pixalation it can case in your feild of vision sort of like tv interference on an untuned channel ?
 
reptilian said:
^ i think amphetamineninja is talking about the lines of the pixalation it can case in your feild of vision sort of like tv interference on an untuned channel ?


Interesting, Im not sure that I have encountered that..........Im thinking fuzzy snow?

Hmmm, this is strange, I was about to press submit and a memory is trying to make its way out.........maybe i have experiencved this and even regularly but not actually taken specific notice of it before.........are these lines sort of serrated? And more in the periferal vision?
 
MazDan said:
However I have also seen some weird stuff such as people turn into reptilian like objects with green glowing skin and scales.........not sure that that fits in.......lol. Egyptian scrolls? By any chance do you have an interest in egyptian scrolls that may have had them in your head?


Not specificaly no , but then again i am more than happy to sit down and watch programmes about ancient history so i suppose thats where i guess it ties in with your theory.

mda is vastly underated by a lot f people as a psychadelic imo thought i would get that in ;)
 
MazDan said:
Interesting, Im not sure that I have encountered that..........Im thinking fuzzy snow?

Yes fuzzy snow! though can be multi colored not neccesary white like snow , not sure why i said " lines " my bad - poor desription :)
 
I've never had any visual distortions or hallucinations other than eye wobbles when my eyes were open. I've seen some crazy shit with my eyes closed though.
 
reptilian said:
visuals such as tribal patterning covering peoples skin ?

For me, smoking weed on the comedown brought that effect out... it was awesome, didn't have a clue what was going on. "Since when is E a psychadelic?" I pondered :D
 
Oh and I only ever get those effects for things in my peripheral vision, if I look straight at them I don't see them. If however I'm sat 90 degrees to the thing of interest, I can see the distortion developing slowly knowing all the while that if I just shift my focus to it, it will disappear.
Hence it is probably brought about by disruption in early visual processing, because enough attentional resources are allocated to the object as to allow it to be properly scrutenised. Maybe in the lateral geniculate nucleus of the thalamus, or earlier, in the superior colliculus... :)
 
It's just your brain associating the shadows with the first thing that comes to mind (wire frame glasses in this case). It happens with everything. If you see something red in the corner of your eye you may instantly think it's a coke can and you're brain will make you believe it's a coke can.
 
Only on really high doses of potent pills would I get the "Glasses"....I remember a few years back I was at a small rave and took 6 or 7 of those blue hitchhiker pills that tested 50% mda and 50% mdma....at the end of the night...EVERYONE was wearing glasses with gold wired frames....
 
I've had them a few times. i think the first possible explaination is the most likely because everytime it has been in dim light.

I have sometimes thought that it is pshycological - When on MDMA your boundaries are down so maybe its our brains telling us that the person can get a better look at us. Our boundaries and inhibitions are down so the other person get's a better look at us...dosen't really explain the people that see aviators though lol. The glasses I see are always the same, they are those old circular ones.

I have seen the tribal patterns sprawling on peoples skin once but it was with a high dose of MDA. Maybe this is something in our head realting the experience to something tribal ie. the closeness brought about by the drug and the dancing in a trance like state?
 
I have experienced everything each of you have described. And only on very high doses of E. I always attributed it to the eye wiggles causing lines/things to blend together to the point of creating things that weren't there.

Anyone ever see a breathing wall? I have that rough plaster/drywall walls in my bedroom. While sitting on the bed rolling one night, the wall started moving like it was breathing in/out 8( That was very cool:) If I focused in on the texture of the wall, it would stop breathing, but then the texture would start moving around like ants.... I decided that I preferred the breathing wall over the ant wall LOL
 
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