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Yes you see glasses, but why?

motorcyclist said:
I have experienced everything each of you have described. And only on very high doses of E. I always attributed it to the eye wiggles causing lines/things to blend together to the point of creating things that weren't there.

Anyone ever see a breathing wall? I have that rough plaster/drywall walls in my bedroom. While sitting on the bed rolling one night, the wall started moving like it was breathing in/out 8( That was very cool:) If I focused in on the texture of the wall, it would stop breathing, but then the texture would start moving around like ants.... I decided that I preferred the breathing wall over the ant wall LOL
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I too have only experienced hallucinations/shadows playing tricks on me after very high doses. As for the walls breathing I think I know what you mean, I haven't gotten it as you describe but I have had the ceiling get sucked in so that it is a dome. Anytime I have gotten visual distortions for MDMA is after the high has worn off and I'm feeling tweaked out and everytime I have had brain zaps the next day.
 
Yea I've seen these glasses, I've also seen a bunch of other stuff. One time I looked out into a field and saw a bunch of people and cars coming across it when it was actually just the trees in the background I was seeing. I've also seen spiders.

All of these hallucinations take on a transparent glass look to them, similar to how the glasses look.
 
wng- said:
Yea I've seen these glasses, I've also seen a bunch of other stuff. One time I looked out into a field and saw a bunch of people and cars coming across it when it was actually just the trees in the background I was seeing. I've also seen spiders.

All of these hallucinations take on a transparent glass look to them, similar to how the glasses look.
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Damn you just reminded me that I also seen spiders in a bathtub, memories come back and I don't want it to seem like I'm just agreeing with every new visual someone mentions lol. They were shadowy spiders though and I don't count it as out of the ordinary as I had taken a few high strength MDA cherries.
 
This is basic Transactional Psychology. Your brain doesn't recive information rather it processes information so fast that your brain actually creates information based on past experiences. Very very intersting subject matter.
 
Ha! One night I was with friends and one girl kept going on about she saw glasses on everyone. She just kept on and on about it until we were all seeing glasses on everyone. Crazy night.
 
I have only seen glasses that weren't there on my brother....No one else.

But I saw them almost everytime we rolled in low light conditions but as my tolerance increased I saw them less and less....but if we were in low light and the had some great pills they would come back.
 
lol, just a quick reminder to all that the thread is actually asking you for your ideas on why this happens...........we already know that it does happen.



TheDrizzle said:
This is basic Transactional Psychology. Your brain doesn't recive information rather it processes information so fast that your brain actually creates information based on past experiences. Very very intersting subject matter.
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The Drizzle, can you enlighten us further (preferably in understandable english) regards Transactional Psychology and also what you meant by the brain not receiving info but processing it.

I would have thought that in order to process it first had to be received?
 
how interesting. . .

I'd have to agree with your theory MazDan. . . for the most part. . .

I don't know that I'd call it lazy so much as I'd term it distracted. . .with the flood of all the warm and fuzzys the brain is less focused on getting the details of an object or particular set of stimuli correct and completely identified and more focused on the enjoyable reaction to those stimuli. I'd like to add to this the brains tendancy to interpret stimuli using as little effort and investigation as possible. For example:

Tihs pagararph is wrtiten whit the mildde leettrs of ecah wrod scrmlbaed up. As lnog as the frist and lsat lteters are in the cocerrt odrer and all the letetrs are prseent the brian geanerlly has no trubole decephiring the word itlesf as it teris to preocss the stuimli with as ltitle infarmotion as posbisle frist. . .I.E. the first and last letter and the generalities of the remainder.

perhaps this is similar to your theory. . . the brain recieves some sort of stimuli regarding the eyes. . .dark, light, closed, shadow, etc. and simply guesses what's most familliar (glasses).

Which brings up an interesting question. . . would someone who wears glasses or is surrounded by many who do be more apt to expirience this phenomenon than one who isn't. . .(i've never had this happen)
 
ClubNymphs said:
how interesting. . .

I'd have to agree with your theory MazDan. . . for the most part. . .

I don't know that I'd call it lazy so much as I'd term it distracted. . .with the flood of all the warm and fuzzys the brain is less focused on getting the details of an object or particular set of stimuli correct and completely identified and more focused on the enjoyable reaction to those stimuli. I'd like to add to this the brains tendancy to interpret stimuli using as little effort and investigation as possible. For example:

Tihs pagararph is wrtiten whit the mildde leettrs of ecah wrod scrmlbaed up. As lnog as the frist and lsat lteters are in the cocerrt odrer and all the letetrs are prseent the brian geanerlly has no trubole decephiring the word itlesf as it teris to preocss the stuimli with as ltitle infarmotion as posbisle frist. . .I.E. the first and last letter and the generalities of the remainder.

perhaps this is similar to your theory. . . the brain recieves some sort of stimuli regarding the eyes. . .dark, light, closed, shadow, etc. and simply guesses what's most familliar (glasses).

Which brings up an interesting question. . . would someone who wears glasses or is surrounded by many who do be more apt to expirience this phenomenon than one who isn't. . .(i've never had this happen)
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I love maniplulating the mind, you were right I understood that paragraph without having to re-read. But I think I noticed like a microsecond delay for each word.
 
MazDan said:
lol, just a quick reminder to all that the thread is actually asking you for your ideas on why this happens...........we already know that it does happen.





The Drizzle, can you enlighten us further (preferably in understandable english) regards Transactional Psychology and also what you meant by the brain not receiving info but processing it.

I would have thought that in order to process it first had to be received?
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Basically when you see a chair your brain has seen numerous chairs before and after a while your brain "thinks" it knows what a chair looks like therefore some times when you look at a chair the chance that it isn't a chair is very real. This is because your brain more or less jumps to conclusions about what you see. I have heard it best related to quantum physics, everything you see cannot be said is 100% for sure what you see but rather a probability. And furthermore your brain works so fast that by the time you fully recieve all the information from your eyes when looking at said chair you brain has already decided it was a chair based on past experiences and guesses it has made about your observations. I hope that helps some. Read the book Quantum Psychology by Rober Anton Wilson. Totally turned my world upside down.

Edit: Your life experiences fall into Leary's 8 circuit model of conciousness, and further more the paragraph wirtten wrong proves this while the word is wrong you still understand it and your brain reads it right based on seeing the word before. not the best example though.
 
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I guess while under the influence of MDMA maybe our brains get lazier and percieve these glasses because of the combination of how our brains work and the effects of the drug on our brains. It is really hard to say but IMO Transactional Psychology will be what descibes why this happens.
 
After my first (and only) very-high dosage of MDMA, I saw the illusion of glasses on my friend... it was good he was experienced and could tell me what was happening. That was also the first night I'd ever had any sort of hallucination. (That didn't even happen on LSD!) I'm a bibliophile, and found myself staring up at the stars while, at the same time, reading a fascinating encyclopedia article on the demographics of Abbu-Dhabi... This disappeared up into the stars, of course.

I differentiate between the two phenomena:
Illusion: A mis-perception of what is actually there.
Hallucination: Seeing something that is absolutely not there.

Illusions are common... we can see them when totally straight just by going to a magic show. They're also fairly easy to get when we're sleep-deprived or even just tired. I think they're mostly caused by a combination of a lack of "normal" sensory input (e.g. low lighting, too distant, too close) and/or a mental-processing de-synchronization (e.g. distraction, mental-sluggishness/fatigue). MDMA usually contributes to both: Many of us roll in the dark at night after being up most of the day... the flood of seratonin has us distracted by distorted/disproportionate sensory input... not to mention the dopaminergic rushes of pleasure.

The hallucinations? I'm pretty sure I would chalk that up to the MDMA -> MDA conversion. If you're seeing reptilian patterning, you might've gotten 2C-x... Seems to be common with them
 
On a high dose of mda one time I saw fire red ancient writing everywhere, moving as if it should have been read. I've also had the static vision and still get it if I focus. Its like you can see the electricity in the air. With enough speed or E and lack of sleep I can see waves emiting from my PC in paterns that conform to the shape of the screen. I can also see this energy emiting from powerlines and almost anything that has some form of energy flowing though it, like the tips on my fingers and stuff. Preaty neat. The first time I ever saw this was a few years back while on diphenhydramine.
 
i have no idea why that shit happens- but it certainly has happened to me on numerous occasions... esp when I eat alot of pills in a night.. my reality changes. people look different, you see yourself different, and thats why ravers are so crazy and dress like mad men
 
On high dosis I do usually see glasses... I think you theory might be right, but all I truely know is that glasses mean good times :D
 
I've seen neon like dark blue tracers follow the path of people's eyes before, that was pretty cool.
 
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Druidus said:
I've never heard of this glasses phenomenon. How often does it occur?
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My friends and I all experienced this on the same night several times (taking the same pills)... it was bizzare! We thought everyone was wearing glasses at certain points in the night... was very strange.
 
Drizzle

Wow, I am most interested. I read some fascinating stuff when studying linguistics about how the brain forms "stereotypes" and reuses those over and over again until forced to accept a change/update (cannot now remember any book titles). Any other reading matter suggestions?

Also, "And furthermore your brain works so fast that by the time you fully recieve all the information from your eyes when looking at said chair you brain has already decided it was a chair based on past experiences and guesses it has made about your observations"

Why does it then take your brain up to 10 plus minutes to process the fact that said chair is in fact a tree branch etc. Brain laziness I would imagine?

J
 
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