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Russell Brand... your thoughts?

Rape has precious little to do with sex, it’s all about power and control. Even a cursory knowledge of Brand’s life suggests this fits him to a tee.

Is that true, @Shambles?

I hear that statement thrown around by desperate (thankfully not usually rape victims themselves) ladies a lot.

Why can't a rapist just want to have sex without their object's of desire's consent?

I don't know much about rape myself, so I could be wrong, but I just find this too convenient to circumvent other, more troubling, possibilities.
 
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I provide the above merely as a index paper. One really needs to read as many as the citations as possible AND search for papers which cite this one.

It requires active reading but I warn you, since THIS paper is based on STATED reasoning, it IS important to read more; many more. But be warned, it is disturing. Control can mean control over a 'dangerous world' and proving physical power can make the world feel less dangerous.
 

I provide the above merely as a index paper. One really needs to read as many as the citations as possible AND search for papers which cite this one.

It requires active reading but I warn you, since THIS paper is based on STATED reasoning, it IS important to read more; many more. But be warned, it is disturing. Control can mean control over a 'dangerous world' and proving physical power can make the world feel less dangerous.

Thank you, I could just scan a few paragraphs, and it has brought up at least one interesting point already.

I will try to read this later. On my way to work now.
 
I previous mentioned 'The Dark Triad' but it seemed to go unremarked.

Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and Psychopathy

Where in the triangle a person may be will be unique to that case.

I mentioned it because DECADES before any legal charges were framed, they were NOT hidden traits.

I hope I was fair, I noted that heritability and upbringing both play there part so RB was dealt a bad hand. However, fame was likely what 'fixed' those traits as the associated behaviors were allowed, overlooked, forgiven, excused. But point to ONE example where rather than admit fault, it was ALWAYS something else. The alcohol, the drug addictions, the sex addiction - never HIM.

I've only ever seen the inside of a British prison from the perspective of a vistor and what those I visited told me. But taking away ALL power, ALL individuality and ALL freedoms will be far harsher on someone inside the dark triad, If only because failing to engage with forensic psychiatrists to whom patients within the dark triad are not particulaly rare could potentially see him serving the entire ten and a half years.

Failing to engage or worse, pretence of engagement would prejudice any parole board (who WILL read a pychiatric report) and in theory even after ten and a half years parole could STILL be refused.

Psycopathy is the most refractive attibute to treat but it IS possible but IS dependent on a wish to change.

If you know anyone who has served a long term in prison - ask THEM. The system is honed to deal with whatever choices the convict makes. Want to attack the screws, fine, you end up on the seg and get a decade added to the sentence. It isn't really optimized to treat personaliy disorders but is the final sanction - that person is removed from society.

Yea I did my HS senior thesis (is that even a thing really?) on Machiaevelli --- Half the class thought I was talkin about tupac for a good 10 minutes... I dig alot of his shit but it does lean towards 'dark psychology' which is kind of a pseudo term I dont care much for itself but get the implication.

Speaking of HS some kid -- well man now obviously is sitting a sting after getting busted by none other than chris hansen --- post tv series.......Should see if there is an obit for that fckin guy yet
 
Is that true, @Shambles?

I hear that statement thrown around by desperate (thankfully not usually rape victims themselves) ladies a lot.

Why can't a rapist just want to have sex without their object's of desire's consent?

I don't know much about rape myself, so I could be wrong, but I just find this too convenient to circumvent other, more troubling, possibilities.
Well what exactly is that but power and control? It's clear as day, no?
 
Is that true, @Shambles?

I hear that statement thrown around by desperate (thankfully not usually rape victims themselves) ladies a lot.

Why can't a rapist just want to have sex without their object's of desire's consent?

I don't know much about rape myself, so I could be wrong, but I just find this too convenient to circumvent other, more troubling, possibilities.

Yes it is true --- or certainly was the dominant theory in psychology at the university I went to. (and probably every other one)

Of course there are exceptions but the vast majority of ppl are not into someone genuinely not wanting to be with them. Maybe daterape there is a little higher chance of that being the motivation but that may still be speaking out of school.

You dont get it (either) because you dont think like a rapist lol

I get the impression @tryptakid knows more than me about psychology in general (and that is hard to admit - but credit where do)
 
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