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Khat/Qat while on Vyvanse 30mg

DataGuy

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Despite currently living in the west I haven't been able to get a proper mental health support, but for the past 14 years it started with me being diagnosed with Borderline Peraonality Disorder, later about 3 years ago it was ruled more of cyclothemia, and with a lot of digging I was able to identify that it was ADHD and got diagnoaed with ADHD mixed with Autism (low degree).
I can have social anxiety among some social circles and not others, but I still feel I have to mask it, I have found it most difficult at work, it feel I am so uncomfortable around such environment, this wasn't the case in my early jobs until I was 22. I have gone through through cycles of depression for the past 13 years, when it peaked I wasnt able to look at people eyes. It is during the 3rd year dealing with this depression that straight up wonderied If I was crazy, given that they say a crazy person doesn't actually know they are.

But throughout I have acheived quite well with so many setbacks and getting back up, I have been top of my class throughout my schooling, and ended up with a scholarship to Uni and later at a multinational. But with marriage, postgraduate studies, asylum (I am a refugee), and ending up homeless (crashing at friends houses until someone accepted my letting application) the past 3 years have been a roller coaster, and for the first time life is dictacting how my life goes more than I did. This period has stripped me naked in front of myself and i was able to reflect and recognize all my flows. I was happy to know others deal with the issues I am facing and I was relieved with the diagnosis that there is a way for me to overcome these flows and make a positive change in my life.

I drink occassionally (Socially; mostly, 3 beers a week), I could take a couple if hits of weed (maybe twice a year) socially as well, it helped me calm my racing and chaotic brain. I have tried coke twice, LSD once (Actually it is after this LSD experience that I felt my brain chemcials were fixed and I ended up stopping anti depressants for 3 years). Felt quite relaxed in my own skin but had some social anxiety depending on the situation, it was a period where I worked from home for 4 years.

To navigate through tough work and academic commitments I used Khat (A stuimulant that contains Cathine). Helped me focus while my life was chaotic, finish the tasks I have and actually progress on my schooling and career. 2 months ago I was told I am vitamin b12 diffecient, took one injection that resulted in me feeling energetic for 2 days and then a crash. Which makes me wonder where the issue is exactly is it adhd, autism, depression, or simply a b12 deficiency that is making me energy less. It breaks my heart when people speak about me (Even in my presence) and say growing up everyone expected I would be the most successful and acheive what no other would acheive, but apparently I am not.

I was working on my thesis, and as a result I was chewing qat for 5 weeks straight. After submission, it was such a relief, and I started my Adhd meds which felt amazing, on Vyvanse I was able to handle house chores, tackled open items on my to do lists, set plans, and I feel on medications, I am able to properly declutter my brain and put it in a paper for clear planning and action. I was on a roll, I felt with this medication, I am able to manage adhd, and get my life together, started journaling, for the first time in life I put my brain into organized plans on a paper, reflected on things I have been doing wrong (things I didn't realize before) and started setting up plans and tracking the actions to train my brain into giving up baf habits and train on good ones.

4th day on Vyvanse I had a lot of work so I decided to chew Khat, it has always helped me with the tasks that are difficult to get done. I didn't know any better, and later learned I shouldn't mix it with Vyvanse. Mixing the two resulted in a complete exhaustion for complete 4 days, racing heart, high blood pressure and jaw clenching, I made mistakes I wouldn't normally do, it felt like I was on a high dose of cocaine. To remedy it, I decided to pause Vyvanse for 2 days. These side effects were alarming, so I kept reading about it, and just as I was about to decide to quit vyvanse. It started getting better. However, I saw how hyper a friend gets when he is on cocaine, and that image got stuck with me and I became afraid thats how I look to others. It is my 3rd week, I feel brain has clarity, but social anxiety and being away from home feels tough. Not quite sure if it is depression I am going through again (I have gone through a similar episode 10 years ago) or it is a result of the medicine, or mixing it with Khat 3 weels ago? It is worth noting that I have never experienced such side effects from qat, it rather works quite well with me. But 5 weeks straight, zero social life and studying 16 hours a day may have made it worse?

In a couple of social gathering I felt agigated, aggrevated, and wanting to withdraw. Today I started a training course I have been excited about. I felt confident and it was a good thing to compliement the medications and my healing jourmey! I had social anxiety among the crowd, despite trying to control it, it is a lil difficult to feel at ease especially that I live in the west and there is too much hostility toward my race/religion background. I am trying to reflect on my actions, but I feel it doesn't match the hostility and the uncomfortable feeling I got. I was very uncomfortable that my brain was simply shutting down.

I think mix of emotional dysregulation, autism, adhd, and likely my ethnicity, just makes it exhausting for me to mask how I feel and just keep getting on with life like that. People were avoiding me in the course today, and that made me feel like I don't wanna be there. I realized my depression and decided not to force myself through an unpleasant experience and withdraw from the course instead. I apologized to the instructor, and to the class that I am not feeling well and took my departure, what was sad is that one members comment hinted that they are better off.

Recently I realized that in life when I see and know an experience I am getting into is disturping, I tend to push through, not quit and put myself through its misery. I decided not to this time and requested a withdrawl when I felt It might be a bad experience. I feel like this is my first time to straight up quit and I am ok with it.

My question: would mixing cathine and Vyvanse result in a damage that I will have to deal with, I dont feel comfortable sharing this with doctors. I wont do it again, I used it to medicate, and now that I am getting the help I need, I quitted. With Vyvanse I am feeling so much clarity and hope. when at home or in among my support network, it feels like things and life will be ok, but not in unfamiliar circles where I work on masking and burying how I feel, it feels exhausting and that I am failing at it.

Is it possible that this isn't a side effect and I am merely more aware of my anxiety since I am on vyvanse. Should I stop Vyvanse, I am currently on 70mg? Is it causing this depression and anxiety, maybe even paranoia.

I don't have a support network here, just my wife which I think she is bearing more than she can handle.

Anything in specific on where Khat/Vyvanse could have lead me to this experience, Anything I can do to fix this? Symptoms I feel are being on edge at times, or more hyperactive in social interactions (maybe too much at times). The anxiety and social fear is there maybe from childhood traumas I am not able to identify or bypass. It just became a norm that sometimes I am able to mask, other times not. Sadly I was never able to get a proper access to a proper mental care to process this, and cant afford private one.
 
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Mental illness and Substance abuse go hand to hand. I have Schizoaffective Disorder Bipolar type. I hope you feel better.
Thanks man, wish you well as well.

Worth noting I am truly cognizant of addictions, qnd is very careful. I am curious, I like to try things, but don't do them again. I maybe having an addictive personality but truly it doesnt seem like iy. I used Qat to do work and dont use it otherwise. Smoke weed when I feel my brain needs a rest when I am no longer functioning (twice a year). Quitted smoking for 10 months now.

I am very career focused and goal oriented, however with the tornados that keep storming my life and complete unstability I keep starting over, while not quite well, just masking and trying to beat it through thinking positively and getting up.
 
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Honestly this is one of the more interesting posts. Dataguy, I want you to get responses, maybe moving to the healing forum? Would you be ok with that?
 
If you are prescribed Vyvanse I suggest you speak to your provider. Your provider may suggest a lower dose or combine with another medication? At any rate professional advice might be your best option.
 
At any rate professional advice might be your best option.
Agreed, a few people on a drug healing board may have had something similar and have had resolve.

Since I am not a moderator trip reports I can't move the thread but Misterr Ed can. I would move it to the healing forum or dark side. I think it may get more responses and who ever really talks about khat?
 
Despite currently living in the west I haven't been able to get a proper mental health support, but for the past 14 years it started with me being diagnosed with Borderline Peraonality Disorder, later about 3 years ago it was ruled more of cyclothemia, and with a lot of digging I was able to identify that it was ADHD mixed with Autism (low degree) I can have social anxiety among circles while not others. Went through cycles of depression where it reached not being able to look at people eyes, and straight up wondering If I was crazy when I recalled a crazy person doesn't actually know they are. I can post more details.

But through out I have acheived quite well with so many setbacks and getting back up, but past 3 years have been the most unstable with a postgraduate, family and complete unstability ending up with homelessness that I have thankfully been able to sort out.

I drink occassionally (Socially; maint 3 beers a week), I could take a couple if hits of weed socially as well, it helped me calm my raising and chaotic brain. I have tried coke twice, LSD once (Actually it is after this LSD experience that I felt my brain chemcials were fixed and I ended up stopping anti depressants for 3 years).

To navigate through tough work and academic commitments I used Khat. Helped me focus while my life was chaotic. 2 months ago I was told I am vitamin b12 diffecient, took one injection that resulted in me feeling energetic for 2 days and then a crash. 3 weeks ago I finally started my Vyvanse medication after chewing qat for 5 weeks straight. Adhd meds felt amazing, washed dishes, tackled open items and I was on a roll, I felt now I am able to gety life together, started journaling, for the first time in life I put my brain into organized plans on a paper, reflected on things I have been doing wrong (things I didmt realize before) and started setting up plans to and tracking to help me avoid those bad habits.

4th day on Vyvanse I had a lot of work so I decided to have Khat, help me with the push to get it done, didn't know better. I was exhausted for the next 4 days, racing heart, high blood pressure and jaw clenching. I stopped vyvanse for 2 days and went again. Just before I was about to decide to quit. It started getting better. But the image of a friend of mine when he is on coke got stuck in my head and I became concious I might be acting like him.

Recently I feel like my social anxiety is higher. sadly I shared some information with a friend about my adhd and medication, and I feel he is withdrawing. In a couple of social gathering I felt agigated, aggrevated, and wanting to withdraw. Today in a course I was very excited for, that I felt couples well with my medicating, I had social anxiety despite trying to control it, it is a lil difficult to feel at ease especially that I live in the west and there is too much hostility toward my race/religion background. I faced racism as a teenager, and I think mix of emotional dysregulation, autism, adhd just makes it exhausting for me to mask and keep going like that. People were avoiding me in the course today, I realized I was depressed as I wasnt able to look at peoples eyes (my sign I am depressed).

Recently I realized that in life when I see and know an experience I am getting into is disturping, I tend to push through, not quit and put myself through its misery. I decided not to this time and requested a withdrawl when I felt I wont be able to work with them.

My question is that is it vyvanse and khat that led to this elevated (is it psychosis?) I am rather feeling so much clarity and hope when at home or in my support network, but not in unfamiliar circlea where I work on masking and burying how I feel.
Is it possible I am more aware of my anxiety now since I am on vyvanse. Should I stop Vyvanse, I am currently on 70mg? Is it causing this depression and anxiety, maybe even paranoia.

I don't have a support network here, just my wife which I think she is bearing more than she can handle. Should I speak with this friend and understand why is he distancing himself? I have known him for a year and I already regret sharing my adhd dignosis and medication?

Anything in specific on where Khat/Vyvanse could have lead me to, is this the damage this one mess up did. Anything I can do to fix this? Symptoms I feel are being on edge at times, or more hyperactive in social interactions (maybe too much at times). The anxiety and social fear is there maybe some childhood traumas I am not able to bypass. It just became a norm that sometimes I am able to mask it, other times not. Sadly I was never able to get a proper access to mental care to process this, and cant afford private one.

Agreed, a few people on a drug healing board may have had something similar and have had resolve.

Since I am not a moderator trip reports I can't move the thread but Misterr Ed can. I would move it to the healing forum or dark side. I think it may get more responses and who ever really talks about khat?
Thanks man I will just delete this one amd create another in healing.
 
crap I'm not seeing moderator tools to relocate thread.
ha, yeah I get caught up in trying too. Sometimes for too much time.

I think if you close the thread, and from the trip reports forum click the edit square at the end of the title. Then i believe you an move it. Edit>move thread
 
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