Stimulants Looking for the best stack for an Alternative to Cocaethelyene

[Quimsby]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a stack to use that will give me a similar level of stimulation and euphoria to Cocaethelyene at Raves and Music Festivals.

Background: My favorite drug of all time is Cocaethelyene, and I quit 4 months ago, as it was obviously ruining my life in many ways, mostly financially. I have not found anything that even comes close to the euphoria and stimulation of CE, and I've found I really miss moshing on it.

I'm on 15mg of prescribed Adderall XR, and only use it 4 times a week, mostly at work when I need to be productive.

At Raves, I usually take 45mg of crushed Adderall XR orally with tums (Promotes a basic environment for Adderall to metabolize better)

I haven't tried Rectal administration yet, which will probably be my next experiment.

I have access to a dark web market, and can pretty much get my hands on anything. I'm going to order 4MMC, and see how that goes.

 

[Keif' Richards]

I hear you man. Cocaethylene is known to be an incredibly euphoric substance, both anecdotally and according to the coked out mice who give it positive reviews. There is a reason it is such a common combination. First and foremost, good for you for making the right decision for your health. We all make bad decisions in our youth, but there comes a times when our bodies can't handle the abuse anymore and this is as physically harmful as it is euphoric and addictive. We are talking pretty much every organ takin some kind of insult in the process.

Basically, you are looking for a combination of a Central Nervous System depressant and stimulant. That is not impossible by any stretch.

My first and most obvious suggestion would be a Benzodiazepine coupled with your Amphetamine. This is unlikely to produce the same level of euphoria as Cocaethylene, but it is a reasonable place to start. It is not a physically harmful combination, especially given your relatively low Amphetamine dose. I would at least try this on your quest for a substitute.

For instance, I might try 1.5mg - 2mg Alprazolam (Xanax) along with your Amphetamine. This will tick a lot of your desired boxes, but you need to be willing to compromise on this one a little bit.

You mention having access to anything, basically.

If you want my honest opinion, your best bet for attempting that same euphoria as Cocaethylene would be to combine Amphetamine with Gamma-Hydroxybutyrate (GHB). This combination is more likely to capture that same kind of unhinged euphoria that CA produces. If you are not familiar at all, GHB is a lot like Alcohol, though it is more euphoric (just better in every way really). I believe this combination would give you everything that you are looking for.

On a more abstract note, I don't think you should rule out Gabapentinoids. I feel a good dose of Pregabalin, say 450mg-600mg along with your Amphetamine could be a suitable candidate. I could go on and on trying to explain what it would feel like. Suffice to say, I know what you are looking for and I have done all of these things myself. It would not surprise me if this combination scratched the itch.

Those are my best suggestions. Let me know what you think. I only provided the basics here. If you want to talk more about dosages, safety concerns or even other possibilities, let me know.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

I love Coca Ethylene ! It's the kind of Euphoria I look for. To me it's better than Meth.

 

[KetWise]

I second the Amphetamines and GHB combo. I guess you can't get much closer . It is very euphoric and to me better than CE

If you could access anything it would be G and 3-FPM or G and Hexen too. Even more euphoric. But hard to find now I guess

 

[Quimsby]

I hear you man. Cocaethylene is known to be an incredibly euphoric substance, both anecdotally and according to the coked out mice who give it positive reviews. There is a reason it is such a common combination. First and foremost, good for you for making the right decision for your health. We all make bad decisions in our youth, but there comes a times when our bodies can't handle the abuse anymore and this is as physically harmful as it is euphoric and addictive. We are talking pretty much every organ takin some kind of insult in the process.

Basically, you are looking for a combination of a Central Nervous System depressant and stimulant. That is not impossible by any stretch.

My first and most obvious suggestion would be a Benzodiazepine coupled with your Amphetamine. This is unlikely to produce the same level of euphoria as Cocaethylene, but it is a reasonable place to start. It is not a physically harmful combination, especially given your relatively low Amphetamine dose. I would at least try this on your quest for a substitute.

For instance, I might try 1.5mg - 2mg Alprazolam (Xanax) along with your Amphetamine. This will tick a lot of your desired boxes, but you need to be willing to compromise on this one a little bit.

You mention having access to anything, basically.

If you want my honest opinion, your best bet for attempting that same euphoria as Cocaethylene would be to combine Amphetamine with Gamma-Hydroxybutyrate (GHB). This combination is more likely to capture that same kind of unhinged euphoria that CA produces. If you are not familiar at all, GHB is a lot like Alcohol, though it is more euphoric (just better in every way really). I believe this combination would give you everything that you are looking for.

On a more abstract note, I don't think you should rule out Gabapentinoids. I feel a good dose of Pregabalin, say 450mg-600mg along with your Amphetamine could be a suitable candidate. I could go on and on trying to explain what it would feel like. Suffice to say, I know what you are looking for and I have done all of these things myself. It would not surprise me if this combination scratched the itch.

Those are my best suggestions. Let me know what you think. I only provided the basics here. If you want to talk more about dosages, safety concerns or even other possibilities, let me know.

Thanks for the massive write up. I hugely appreciate this! I was doing some more research, and it looks like methylphenidate and ethanol also have a similar interaction, making ethylphenidate when combined.

Do you have any experience with this?

I ordered some speed paste (going to acetone wash it) GHB, and pregab. I don't know about benzos yet, thanks for the rec though man.

 

[TheBigRedOne]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a stack to use that will give me a similar level of stimulation and euphoria to Cocaethelyene at Raves and Music Festivals.

Background: My favorite drug of all time is Cocaethelyene, and I quit 4 months ago, as it was obviously ruining my life in many ways, mostly financially. I have not found anything that even comes close to the euphoria and stimulation of CE, and I've found I really miss moshing on it.

I'm on 15mg of prescribed Adderall XR, and only use it 4 times a week, mostly at work when I need to be productive.

At Raves, I usually take 45mg of crushed Adderall XR orally with tums (Promotes a basic environment for Adderall to metabolize better)

I haven't tried Rectal administration yet, which will probably be my next experiment.
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I have access to a dark web market, and can pretty much get my hands on anything. I'm going to order 4MMC, and see how that goes.

i mean the most logical step would be ritalin and high dose kava. it still wont compare nothing will its pretty specefic lol but its probably the closest you can get without going into the rc world. ghb would also work but its hard to find outside of europe and the uk

 

[Keif' Richards]

Thanks for the massive write up. I hugely appreciate this! I was doing some more research, and it looks like methylphenidate and ethanol also have a similar interaction, making ethylphenidate when combined.

Do you have any experience with this?

I ordered some speed paste (going to acetone wash it) GHB, and pregab. I don't know about benzos yet, thanks for the rec though man.

No problem dude. Happy to help. Yes, I'm familiar with this phenomenon between Methylphenidate (Ritalin) and Ethanol. There are a lot of folks that will say Methylphenidate is not potent enough to compare to something like Cocaine. It's not impossible. I have used plenty of Methylphenidate in my day. I know some people really enjoy it. I always felt the peripheral stimulation to be too much to make the experience enjoyable. I mean tachycardia, hypertension and palpitations often lead to a feeling of being unable to relax. I wouldn't think that it would tick all of your boxes, though that is just my opinion.

I think you will feel so much better in general having cut Ethanol out of your experience completely. I really think you can find what you're looking for in a combination of Amphetamine and something like GHB, which is similar to Ethanol in many ways, though lacking a lot of the toxic byproducts that Ethanol produces. I wouldn't recommend this as a daily practice to anyone, but if you're able to use these things responsibly, it should be a fun time.

It sounds like you have a pretty good pharmacopae coming your way so you can experiment. If you have any specific questions feel free to hit me up on here and we can talk about it. If these are totally new substances to you, don't be afraid to ask questions. You seem like you can make rational decisions so I won't mother you about it.