Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

[Mushoku_Sensei]

To anyone thinking of trying heroin, I strongly recommend you read these posts by anonymousH on Reddit where he chronicles his journey from the first score to his overdose, death, rehab all in just one year.

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2 weeks ago I tried heroin 'once for fun' and made an AMA, I have been using since and shot up for the first time today, AMA​

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https://www.reddit.com/user/SpontaneousH/submitted/

Ok. What's AMA?

 

[TheWanderer]

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Ok. What's AMA?

Ask me anything

 

[opiatekrzy]

Finding pure H will be the biggest issue. EVERYTHING is cut with Fent. Especially in the USA.

I am convinced and I don't care who you are, I am convinced that nobody can find heroin in the United States, unless you're ordering it from the dark web or you're on the west coast and you have a solid connect for tar but even that is going to be cut with fentanyl, probably are rare occasion or significant circumstances upon getting it which are a pain in the ass.
I don't even think it's being trafficked into the United states at all whatsoever

 

[petateom]

I think the post falls into the typical trap of opioid determinism—the idea that "if you try heroin, you'll get addicted, because that's what happened to me."

The reality is more complex, "only" ~25% of people of tried it get hooked. While I believe that opioids are generally not worth using recreationally (with perhaps the exception of milder ones like kratom), I also think the view that recreational use is impossible is just as harmful, as it absolves people who have tried them of their own responsibility, because once you try them you'll find out that that they not that difficult to control, then you'll let your guard down and thought you have been lied, and that's when you get hooked.

I've tried heroin a couple times like 8 years ago and I didn't became an addict. I don't think is really better than oxicodone (which I've tried around the same time a couple times as well). Don't get me wrong, I don't have any desire of keep doing experiments with them because their addiction potential OFC, but if you've tried it a couple of times, don't worry too much; just don't do it anymore, and that's it.

As a final statement: DON'T TRY IT, it's not worth the risk, there's drugs that are more interesting. But if you DO, don't be a retard and take precautions.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

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Ask me anything

Do you think Ill be able to hit myself tonight? Im on a losing streak from low blood pressure/ dehydration.

 

[SinfulbyNature]

I just wished I’d been given the chance to make this decision.

But I never got a choice so I never even got to ask this question.

Its like someone put opiates in my mashed taters while I was growing up but never told me.

Its like a guilty conviction without a trial ….before I even got the chance to become an adult…

It’s like being hungry but you can’t buy food cause you need a pill more

It's like always having to lie to the people you really love

It's like waking up everyday mad because you already know what you gotta do to function

It's like always having to drink the poison you already know is killing you

It's like knowing ahead of time that you gotta take a drug test but you still fail the damn thing

It's like all of your time is ran by your drug dealers time

It's like having to sell everything you love just to be able to function

It's like losing everything but nobody cares cause they think you deserve it

It's like nobody believing a word that you say even when its true

It’s like having every thing you say dismissed or invalidated

It's like being a prisoner inside your own head because you’re doing it to yourself

It’s like not being scared of death because you know its the only way out

It's like missing out on all family functions because you were too high or too sick.

It's like no longer getting invited to family functions because they know you’ll be high

It's like always living in fear of losing your own children

Its like everyone thinking you’re toxic

It’s like having to be friends with people that’ll steal from you

It’s like having to pretend that you don’t realize you’re getting ripped off

It’s like watching everyone else get to live their life while you are destroying yours

It’s like everyone else getting to control the narrative to your own life

It's like no one ever understanding because they will never have to

It's like being on fire but everyone pretends that you're not

It's like always having to do whatever it takes to get it because you have to

It’s like knowing that you’re killing yourself but you can’t figure out how to make yourself stop

So no….I don’t think it’s a good idea

I’m sorry but I can’t help but wish I was the one asking this question

 

[notsmokeymcpot420]

I am convinced and I don't care who you are, I am convinced that nobody can find heroin in the United States, unless you're ordering it from the dark web or you're on the west coast and you have a solid connect for tar but even that is going to be cut with fentanyl, probably are rare occasion or significant circumstances upon getting it which are a pain in the ass.
I don't even think it's being trafficked into the United states at all whatsoever

I agree with this person. All the intel I have says it gets fented before the US border -- but the xylazine is almost always after the boarder. *The more you know*...

Again if you are absolutely sure heroin is the only active ingredient is the FIRST MAJOR question

 

[notsmokeymcpot420]

Do you think Ill be able to hit myself tonight? Im on a losing streak from low blood pressure/ dehydration.

No not unless you are damn good at it already! Dehydration is one of the worst things you can do before said activity, my BP is normal but low can't help either.

Wait until it will be a pleasant and safe experience at least. DO NOT USE ALONE. Have Narcan on hand, a few doses. Of course you shouldnt try heroin but if you are reduce the chances of harm as much as possible.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

I just wished I’d been given the chance to make this decision.

But I never got a choice so I never even got to ask this question.

Its like someone put opiates in my mashed taters while I was growing up but never told me.

Its like a guilty conviction without a trial ….before I even got the chance to become an adult…

It’s like being hungry but you can’t buy food cause you need a pill more

It's like always having to lie to the people you really love

It's like waking up everyday mad because you already know what you gotta do to function

It's like always having to drink the poison you already know is killing you

It's like knowing ahead of time that you gotta take a drug test but you still fail the damn thing

It's like all of your time is ran by your drug dealers time

It's like having to sell everything you love just to be able to function

It's like losing everything but nobody cares cause they think you deserve it

It's like nobody believing a word that you say even when its true

It’s like having every thing you say dismissed or invalidated

It's like being a prisoner inside your own head because you’re doing it to yourself

It’s like not being scared of death because you know its the only way out

It's like missing out on all family functions because you were too high or too sick.

It's like no longer getting invited to family functions because they know you’ll be high

It's like always living in fear of losing your own children

Its like everyone thinking you’re toxic

It’s like having to be friends with people that’ll steal from you

It’s like having to pretend that you don’t realize you’re getting ripped off

It’s like watching everyone else get to live their life while you are destroying yours

It’s like everyone else getting to control the narrative to your own life

It's like no one ever understanding because they will never have to

It's like being on fire but everyone pretends that you're not

It's like always having to do whatever it takes to get it because you have to

It’s like knowing that you’re killing yourself but you can’t figure out how to make yourself stop

So no….I don’t think it’s a good idea

I’m sorry but I can’t help but wish I was the one asking this question

If the first lines are true, there's no guilt in being an addict in the first place. Second question would be:
What all did you try to end the cycle?

 

[opiatekrzy]

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I agree with this person. All the intel I have says it gets fented before the US border -- but the xylazine is almost always after the boarder. *The more you know*...

Again if you are absolutely sure heroin is the only active ingredient is the FIRST MAJOR question

I had heard that the cartels were indeed putting xylazine into the fentanyl but I don't know how true that is
as far as medotomidine that is something that local traffickers were putting into the supply.
it amazes me that some fool with zero knowledge in either chemistry or pharmacology was able to make such a huge and disastrous impact on the fentanyl supply for typically the East Coast and nobody with a degree in chemistry or even someone with enough medical knowledge to understand that medotomidine is extremely dangerous for long term use as withdrawals are so severe that hospitals are damn near making it protocol to induce coma in ICU and taper them off medotomidine with a type of antagonist drug to counteract withdrawal. it amazes me not one person didn't do one thing to prevent the fentanyl supply from being almost lethal

 

[notsmokeymcpot420]

^That sucks if so and I suppose it was a matter of time since they knew it was happening after the border anyways....

Damn precut dope, I hope they losin customers

 

[Slightly_Paranoid13]

If you haven't tried it, then DON'T. That goes for ANY opiate. Opiates affect some people like alcohol affects alcoholics. If I could turn back the hands of time, I would have never tried a pain killer of any kind (unless it was medical). Once your brain registers that feeling............you've done more than you think. It ain't innocent. I don't want you to live the hell that I did for so damn long. Opiate addiction SUCKS.

 

[LOVEisEVOL]

I am convinced and I don't care who you are, I am convinced that nobody can find heroin in the United States, unless you're ordering it from the dark web or you're on the west coast and you have a solid connect for tar but even that is going to be cut with fentanyl, probably are rare occasion or significant circumstances upon getting it which are a pain in the ass.
I don't even think it's being trafficked into the United states at all whatsoever

I agree. There seems to be absolutely no real heroin being brought into the U.S. anymore at all anywhere. It’s like heroin ghosted us.

 

[LOVEisEVOL]

You should absolutely not try heroin. Just wrap it up and mail it to me for disposal. That’s what everyone should do from now on. Heck, I’ll even pay for shipping because I’m a nice fucking guy. Please, only send real #4 heroin though because I only know how to properly dispose of that particular substance. Also, please make sure it is not cut, laced, stomped on, slapped, or altered in any way because I’m trying to be environmentally friendly and my disposal techniques require only pure heroin be used. I will suffer for everyone in order to make this a better world for us all. You are welcome.

 

[Nodsarahsilly]

You should absolutely not try heroin. Just wrap it up and mail it to me for disposal. That’s what everyone should do from now on. Heck, I’ll even pay for shipping because I’m a nice fucking guy. Please, only send real #4 heroin though because I only know how to properly dispose of that particular substance. Also, please make sure it is not cut, laced, stomped on, slapped, or altered in any way because I’m trying to be environmentally friendly and my disposal techniques require only pure heroin be used. I will suffer for everyone in order to make this a better world for us all. You are welcome.

 

[OMZODHC]

Everyone has their own opinion, but due to my experiences with it over the years suffering from addiction and now I’ve been on methadone for the last 10 years I would say never touch opiates for recreational use never touched them at all unless medically supervised.

I don’t even want to add any other drugs I don’t or haven’t tried. I only used cracking heroin and drink lager. I don’t smoke cannabis. I don’t use any other drugs. My friends offered me get them in loads of times. My dealer gave me some E’s for free the other week and I didn’t use them. I don’t wanna add anything else to the table heroin a crack is enough on my plate.


I don’t even sniff Coke I smoke crack and I inject or smoke heroin mainly injected very slowly offer a canula not to get the rush just the morphine high. I was with some Guy the other day and he was driving his work phone. I was in the passenger seat and he gets a Beatles case from the top over the seat. There was like a cubbyhole pulled it down over his lab chopped out a line whilst he was driving and sniffed it while he’s driving you’re also smoked a crack while he was driving and he was also drunk he said I wouldn’t wanna do things like that. .

 

[OMZODHC]

I’ve changed my answer. If you DM me I’ll send you my address and you can send it to me instead. I don’t mind how much just make sure it’s the cream as well.

 

[LOVEisEVOL]

I’ve changed my answer. If you DM me I’ll send you my address and you can send it to me instead. I don’t mind how much just make sure it’s the cream as well.

Hey, I’m the official disposal clerk around here! I worked hard for this job, and completed many years of dangerous training to become certified. I have a resume, references and a PhD in Junkyism at the School of The Hard Knocks. You are more than welcome to apply as another specialist here at Bluelight, but leave this one to the expert.

 

[LOVEisEVOL]

Try it and find out mate.

You're talking about moving to a totally different level, and the boss of that level is a cunt...

I love this because it’s EXACTLY how my addiction began. I had tried everything but Heroin, and never had issues with ANY of them; hallucinogens, stimulants, DMT, coke, crack, meth (gross) MDMA, and on and on I could go. So why would Heroin be any different? Well, like FUBAR said; go ahead and try it and find out. My theory on it is this; if you try it and your first time you get that rush that nothing else can bring you, you will definitely want it again…and again….and again…until you go from a nice life in a nice neighborhood to living in your car in a bad neighborhood and your girlfriend is out selling her goods while you’re out doing whatever you gotta do for you to both have enough to get through another day of misery. How something can feel so damn good, and yet turn you into a monster has always mystified me. Others say they wish they could go back and undo that first time, but I don’t. I get to live one damn time and I’m glad I got to feel that feeling. I just can’t control it. Once I start, I go hard until something stops me. Jail usually. Sometimes I kick on my own. Any way it goes, I wish anyone luck who thinks they can control it if they love that initial rush. I’ve never met one person who loved it and didn’t have it ruin their lives. That’s my take on it.

 

[MedicinalUser247]