Benzos Are somas and benzos safe to combine

[bladeedraingang]

so this morning I took 4mg clonazepam and wanna take 1300mg of soma for a party tonight + maybe more benzos (2mg clonazepam or 70mg temazepam) is it generally safe to combine the two. I’ve done it before but just ended up falling asleep lol

 

[RUC4]

so…

4mg clonazepam

First of all this isn’t a small amount. You must have a tolerance. But, mixing benzodiazepines with soma is dangerous, the super sleepiness isn’t the most dangerous effect. They’re both Central Nervous System Depressants. Combining them basically doubles this. Also, when your body breaks down Soma, it turns into a heavy old-school sedative (meprobamate, an older barbiturate-like sedative). Mixing that with a benzo doubles down on slowing your brain and breathing, which is why the combo is so dangerous. It also doubles down on respiratory depression, which I already mentioned it being a cns depressant.

Be careful.

 

[bladeedraingang]

so…

First of all this isn’t a small amount. You must have a tolerance. But, mixing benzodiazepines with soma is dangerous, the super sleepiness isn’t the most dangerous effect. They’re both Central Nervous System Depressants. Combining them basically doubles this. Also, when your body breaks down Soma, it turns into a heavy old-school sedative (meprobamate, an older barbiturate-like sedative). Mixing that with a benzo doubles down on slowing your brain and breathing, which is why the combo is so dangerous. It also doubles down on respiratory depression, which I already mentioned it being a cns depressant.

Be careful.

Hmmm I had the benzo at like 10am and plan on having the somas at 7pm, and then maybe having some 70mg temazepam at 11pm. Now I’m reconsidering

 

[RUC4]

Now I’m reconsidering

Yeah? Be careful adding benzo on benzo on soma bruh.

 

[placebonaut]

that's what we technically call a fuck load

0.5mg clonazepam = 10mg diazepam
20mg temazepam = 10mg diazepam

4mg clonazepam = 80mg diazepam
70mg temazepam = 35mg diazepam

Hmmm I had the benzo at like 10am and plan on having the somas at 7pm, and then maybe having some 70mg temazepam at 11pm. Now I’m reconsidering

10am to 7pm ain't shifting the dial on how much benzo you have in your system

Drug	Parent half-life	Active metabolite half-life	Time to <1% parent	Time to full washout (including metabolites)
Temazepam	8–20 h (avg 12)	Oxazepam: 5–15 h	2.5–4 days	4–6 days
Clonazepam	30–40 h (avg 35)	None (inactive metabolites)	6–8 days	10–14 days (if chronic use)

At these levels I'd guess you're most likely taking benzos quite regularly, which means you're likely to have much higher actual levels in your system from previous days.

I’ve done it before but just ended up falling asleep lol

@RUC4 is spot on about the risks and dangers of combining these, though given you clearly have a massive tolerance I doubt 1300mg Soma will even be noticeable to you in truth, even so please don't combine, falling asleep is the best outcome, choking to death on your own vomit is another. If you must combine then start low and be aware that meprobamate also builds up in your system over time as well....avoid redosing more benzos too!

And....it's a party, so alcohol potentially as well? that's a high risk combination, something for the very experienced user with high tolerance, advice is to never combine with alcohol.

It sounds like you have a benzo problem, what are you using regularly?

stay safe

 

[bladeedraingang]

that's what we technically call a fuck load

0.5mg clonazepam = 10mg diazepam
20mg temazepam = 10mg diazepam

4mg clonazepam = 80mg diazepam
70mg temazepam = 35mg diazepam



10am to 7pm ain't shifting the dial on how much benzo you have in your system

Drug	Parent half-life	Active metabolite half-life	Time to <1% parent	Time to full washout (including metabolites)
Temazepam	8–20 h (avg 12)	Oxazepam: 5–15 h	2.5–4 days	4–6 days
Clonazepam	30–40 h (avg 35)	None (inactive metabolites)	6–8 days	10–14 days (if chronic use)

At these levels I'd guess you're most likely taking benzos quite regularly, which means you're likely to have much higher actual levels in your system from previous days.



@RUC4 is spot on about the risks and dangers of combining these, though given you clearly have a massive tolerance I doubt 1300mg Soma will even be noticeable to you in truth, even so please don't combine, falling asleep is the best outcome, choking to death on your own vomit is another. If you must combine then start low and be aware that meprobamate also builds up in your system over time as well....avoid redosing more benzos too!

And....it's a party, so alcohol potentially as well? that's a high risk combination, something for the very experienced user with high tolerance, advice is to never combine with alcohol.

It sounds like you have a benzo problem, what are you using regularly?

stay safe

I use clonazepam, Lyrica and Xanax mainly, not daily but my tolerance is quite high as to where 4mg clonaz will not cause too much impediment. I want my tolerance to go back to normal for all these GABA drugs but the moment I get uncomfortable (too anxious) I resort to taking one. Keep in mind I never had anxiety before using.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

As well explained above, definitely an unsafe practice

 

[RUC4]

that's what we technically call a fuck load

0.5mg clonazepam = 10mg diazepam
20mg temazepam = 10mg diazepam

4mg clonazepam = 80mg diazepam
70mg temazepam = 35mg diazepam



10am to 7pm ain't shifting the dial on how much benzo you have in your system

Drug	Parent half-life	Active metabolite half-life	Time to <1% parent	Time to full washout (including metabolites)
Temazepam	8–20 h (avg 12)	Oxazepam: 5–15 h	2.5–4 days	4–6 days
Clonazepam	30–40 h (avg 35)	None (inactive metabolites)	6–8 days	10–14 days (if chronic use)

At these levels I'd guess you're most likely taking benzos quite regularly, which means you're likely to have much higher actual levels in your system from previous days.



@RUC4 is spot on about the risks and dangers of combining these, though given you clearly have a massive tolerance I doubt 1300mg Soma will even be noticeable to you in truth, even so please don't combine, falling asleep is the best outcome, choking to death on your own vomit is another. If you must combine then start low and be aware that meprobamate also builds up in your system over time as well....avoid redosing more benzos too!

And....it's a party, so alcohol potentially as well? that's a high risk combination, something for the very experienced user with high tolerance, advice is to never combine with alcohol.

It sounds like you have a benzo problem, what are you using regularly?

stay safe

"problem" is pretty harsh of a word. in the harm reduction world, problem is a problem lol.

 

[Just a little pinprick]

so this morning I took 4mg clonazepam and wanna take 1300mg of soma for a party tonight + maybe more benzos (2mg clonazepam or 70mg temazepam) is it generally safe to combine the two. I’ve done it before but just ended up falling asleep lol

I have 250 mg somas and if I take 2 it’s too much ,it’s a sloppy kinda high ,if I took 5 I doubt I’d be able to stand up, 1 is perfect,with two I notice it’ll affect my walking and even speech a little. If you’re considering drinking at the party I doubt you’ll remember anything and I hope you’re not driving there,cause you may fall asleep/pass out on the way there .I don’t wanna sound all doom and gloom but without a tolerance thats a crazy amount.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Yea, they are more than likely going to produce a pretty potent synergy. The problem with these combinations is that they are unpredictable. We have to work hard to establish in our own minds what an appropriate dose of this might be. Am I too tired? Am I wide awake? Do I have to be around people? Are those people my family? If you´re like me, you have a table of doses fixed in your mind for a variety of different substances to fit every occasion. Still, we often find that our usage does not go as we had planeed even with single agents.

Carisoprodol (Soma) is a Carbamate that behaves in many ways like a Barbiturate. From what I have read and understand, Carisoprodol is typically going to me a more dangerous substance than Benzodiazepines if we are talking about Therapeutic Index. Carisoprodol is a lot more likely to make you sloppy. As a single agent and speaking from experience, Carisoprodol is a fairly unpredictable drug in its own right. I feel I have had a dosage pegged in the past and have found it to be in opposite scenarios both overwhelming and underwhelming. This is something to take into account for yourself.

Seeing as how you don´t have practical experience here, I really think you should not combine these drugs. You´re going to a party anyway. This combination is not great for partying. Furthermore, I assume there will be Alcohol at said party. This combination with even two drinks could put you into a dangerous situation. Generally, the synergy with depressants increases geometrically the more different agents (from different chemical groups) you incorporate.

That is a large dose of Carisoprodol in general man. I am a seasoned addict and I only would take that when I had the ¨fuck the world I´m going to sleep¨ vibe and knew I wasn´t going to to have any callers for a while. Combining it with Benzodiazepines, especially in a large social gathering I feel is totally counterproductive to why you would want to be at a party in the first place.

I´m not implying you use more drugs. I will say, if you need something to take the edge off, just take a small dose of a Benzodiazepine, have a few drinks and maybe pop an Adderall or something before you show up. That will give you some relief from the anxiety I assume that you experience while also helping you with your conversation. I don´t want you to wake up with your pockets having been run.

 

[placebonaut]

I use clonazepam, Lyrica and Xanax mainly, not daily but my tolerance is quite high as to where 4mg clonaz will not cause too much impediment. I want my tolerance to go back to normal for all these GABA drugs but the moment I get uncomfortable (too anxious) I resort to taking one. Keep in mind I never had anxiety before using.

sounds like your tolerance is causing rebound anxiety.

I take lyrica, diazepam, and soma regularly, occasionally kpins. I'm pretty experienced with them all and in combination, but I know my limits and how they work together, golden rule is to ALWAYS reduce benzo & soma dose when taken with lyrica as they interact significantly with each other 20mg of diazepam feels more like 60-80mg when I take it with lyrica/pregabalin for example - but YMMV, everyone is different.

"problem" is pretty harsh of a word. in the harm reduction world, problem is a problem lol.

I know, I picked the word intentionally as I felt it needed impact.

As a single agent and speaking from experience, Carisoprodol is a fairly unpredictable drug in its own right. I feel I have had a dosage pegged in the past and have found it to be in opposite scenarios both overwhelming and underwhelming. This is something to take into account for yourself.

Having had a problem with Carisoprodol myself, the unpredictable issue is very real, if you've eaten it changes the onset, the indian generics seems to me to be inconsistent in strength, and the effect to most people can feel quite underwhelming so the temptation to redose is a dangerous trap.

it takes a fair while to and quite a bit of usage to really understand the drug and then factor in all the other variables that you mention, something that only really comes with experience, caution, titration and frankly some risk!

 

[RUC4]

I only would take that when I had the ¨fuck the world I´m going to sleep¨ vibe and knew I wasn´t going to to have any callers for a while

oh man. that's such a state of mind. those days creep up on you. i have been there so many times. weekly at this point.

hey, good to see you back around bro.

 

[RUC4]

I know, I picked the word intentionally as I felt it needed impact

what sort of impact? a judgemental one?

 

[placebonaut]

what sort of impact? a judgemental one?

not at all, it was meant as an honest call out and wake up call, a bit of a reality check, worded in a way that @bladeedraingang would take notice of it.

IMHO there's no judging people on BL, it's counter productive, everyone has their reasons for where they are.

sometimes though it takes another drug user to say, hang on, you're pushing things too far and are endangering yourself.

I've had it done to me on here myself and I'm grateful to the people who took the time to call me out on my questionable choices.

@RUC4 not sure why you're questioning my response here, please step back and be objective, do you really think this dose of benzos and combination with soma is ok? or is it in it's own right a life threatening amount to take? now consider why this amount is being taken, and the journey took to get to this kind of dosage. It's a harm reduction call out pure and simple, and I'm not sugar coating things because IMHO this is pretty serious.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

what sort of impact? a judgemental one?

What you posting that emoji for?

@placebonaut is one of the best we have here on BL imho.
The guy can get me to STFU in a single sentence which is rare & his drug experience is quite vast.

You may be a mod but I never seen you post, I'd show the Respect due to someone way older than you are & this a guy who can speak simple to people like me about dope & Chemistry & also hold his own with wiser BL members.
I'd know your place if I were you & get your Ego in check.

 

[Halif2]

I’ve done it before but just ended up falling asleep lol

Yeah, I was gonna say ... you're taking all that to go to a party? If it's a slumber party, I could see it.

But that combo just sounds like a recipe to leave you fighting to stay awake more than anything.

Also, I concur with this technical assessment:

that's what we technically call a fuck load

 

[RUC4]

What you posting that emoji for?

@placebonaut is one of the best we have here on BL imho.
The guy can get me to STFU in a single sentence which is rare & his drug experience is quite vast.

You may be a mod but I never seen you post, I'd show the Respect due to someone way older than you are & this a guy who can speak simple to people like me about dope & Chemistry & also hold his own with wiser BL members.
I'd know your place if I were you & get your Ego in check.

I’m not new here by any means. Look around for my posts. I know my place quite well. Thanks.

 

[RUC4]

not at all, it was meant as an honest call out and wake up call, a bit of a reality check, worded in a way that @bladeedraingang would take notice of it.

IMHO there's no judging people on BL, it's counter productive, everyone has their reasons for where they are.

sometimes though it takes another drug user to say, hang on, you're pushing things too far and are endangering yourself.

I've had it done to me on here myself and I'm grateful to the people who took the time to call me out on my questionable choices.

@RUC4 not sure why you're questioning my response here, please step back and be objective, do you really think this dose of benzos and combination with soma is ok? or is it in it's own right a life threatening amount to take? now consider why this amount is being taken, and the journey took to get to this kind of dosage. It's a harm reduction call out pure and simple, and I'm not sugar coating things because IMHO this is pretty serious.

I don’t judge whether it’s “ok”. I only stand for harm reduction.

 

[RUC4]

What’s so fun about Bluelight is that everyone can have an OPINION. which is what I have. So back the fuck up, kindly. If you don’t like my opinion, move on.

 

[streaM Freak]

Yeah, i think some use the phrase "X Y Z problem" in a casual way, not intended to dismiss a struggle.