K. so I love 2CB and it's probably my most used psychedelic, and note that the only psychedelic that I've used extensively in the bedroom. I've never used 2CB, but every other that you named I'd MUCH rather have over 2cb on any given day.
I have trialed 25D-NBOH nasally at low dosages and I suspect my bias against NBOx may have tainted my experience, which was marked by an increase in heart rate, thin veins (although no blood pressure was measured, I'm naturally quite vascular so have a good visual indicator of vasoconstriction) and an overall weird bodyload which made me suspicious of toxicity. The dose was not high but did not really reward for what I felt was going on with the body, being a slightly euphoric but rather brain-jelly state of mind. I have written some about it previously in a similar lowly detailed matter. I hope someone without such bias may carefully titrate the material and find some more value in it, but I felt bad for wasting 2C-D on it. At some point I threw out the volumetric solution fearing it has gone bad, and I had not left any reference sample of the dry compound. The reports of 25D-NBOMe actually make me a bit curious, it and 25C-NBOMe seemed to have been preferred over 25I-NBOMe by people I ascribe towards being NBOx "connoisseurs".
I do actually want to revisit 25E-NBOH carefully and if that works out without re-traumatising me for another couple years, explore some more NBOMes and NBOHs very carefully. The class is sketchy as hell but not without value.
Fixed the typos, I think. Basically, I've never used 2cx exclusively for sex, but have used them quite a bit for mental work. I haven't had a chance to sample 2c-p, but so far find 2C-B to be the most boring out of that which I've tried. I just find it odd that 2CB is the one that reached the mainstream. I think that 2CI is better all around for the type of use that 2CB has become synonymous withNow which is it, my head is spinning
Still kinda confused but after your 2nd comment, pretty sure i understand. For sex, you think the other 2C's will be better?
Interesting. My experiences are still limited to cacti of course, but for me I usually get first alerts at around 15 minutes. However unless the dose is big, physical effects usually dominate until they peak at T+2 hours when mental effects also accelerate, and it takes another two hours or so for the effects to full develop with the strongest visuals.
Welly, my first instinct is to say his comment is pretty spot on. From my experiences with cacti, there's not much trippy effect at all at T+1.5 hours. It certainly might feel like a non-psychedelic drug to most people at that point.
Cacti is certainly slower as you have to digest it, even tea takes a bit more time. I suppose most of my recent mescaline trips have all been on lower dose so 50mg or less but yeah I feel them around 40 minute mark, certainly later than I feel 2C-D or 2C-B. Maybe if I took a fat dose I'd feel it sooner.
I dunno. I think I'm unusually good at noticing early effects. I'll probably notice 2C-D or 2C-B within 10 minutes. I'm not sure what effect digestion has. I mean, dry mushrooms if powdered and mixed with water I'll likely feel in under 5 minutes. Pure 4-Aco-MiPT dissolved in water maybe hits a little faster?
I remember reading Fear and Loathing and loathing it for all that it was loved for, I guess. The perspective of Thompson having had DOM is an interesting one. That one from my one experience I agree with coming on slooowly, unlike mescaline. DOM is due for a "rematch", perhaps even in this autumn. It would be interesting if the perspective and observations around mescaline were influenced by Thompson's culturally significant statement of "good mescaline coming on slow", alongside of course slowed uptake from being entombed in the plant matrix.
I'll have to try and write up this experience. No clue if I will share it publicly. I've talked about not getting too cocky with the 2C-B and this experience might have been that. Very strong trip. Certainly one of my more challenging experiences, but I made it out and learned a bit. Hence it was a frighteningly good experience. Still yet to see visuals on the dance floor, but this will have been my last attempt and I'm doubtful I will ever be inebriated in any form while dancing aside from dance-induced-trance. I do need to go more often though.
I do not think the dosing was reckless given my experience, but it was right up to the limit of what I could handle under the circumstances and it actually gives me confidence how well I managed. This was only possible due to my unshakeable trust in 2C-B and my solid amount of experience with it (~ 50 experiences with it).
Honestly IME with 2C-B less is more especially in a public/dance environment (or in the bedroom). I'm pretty curious what dosage made you react this way. Ages ago I was weighing some 2C-B right before a show. I was aiming for 22mg, so a full trip but not overly intense. I was in a super rush as my friends were in the car, the car was honking to tell me they were ready. I weighed the 22mg and promptly ate it. Right after I ate it, I thought to myself that pile of powder seemed like way more than 22mg. Even before I got to the show I was realizing there must have been some sort of scale malfunction or improper use because I was tripping a lot harder than expected. I got to the show, and instead of being the dancey outgoing didgital that I had been expecting, I was introverted, I started having trouble articulating my words and became incapable of having meaningful conversation, I spent the vast majority of that concert with my back against the wall, although I started to feel much better towards the end of the show.Don't worry, the dosage was decided before your comment and your statement had no influence in my decision making process at all. It was not the most fun of experiences but truly a great trip and nothing I regret, but certainly nothing I'd go out of my way to try and replicate
I will write and ponder some over my trip report. Whether or not I'll share it publicly I'd like to send it to you at least in private, as I do value your wisdom and input. No pressure of course, I'd never expect anyone to read my ramblings much less provide input on it, but you voiced some interest and I'd be glad to hear of your thoughts
Be my guest! Just send me a private message.
Oops. I have a rule about never rushing the process of weighing. My scale is cheap, and that means I have to use techniques that are very time consuming to get results I trust. Liquid measurement is definitely more convenient but comes with its own caveats.
